M'sia to build cynic bridge
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Let's first seek to undertand then to be understood.
If Singapore were in Malaysia shoe, I think Singapore die die also must built the bridge. Why?
Because it benefits Malaysia to built the bridge even if it is a half bridge. -
[quote]Originally posted by 84mmrr:
In jest, Dr Mahathir said: “I thought it was ‘cynic’ bridge. Is that how you spell it?”
Wrong ! It is THE 'STUPID' Bridge.[/b] -
Sunday March 19, 2006,Singapore has one year to make up mind,BY NELSON BENJAMIN AND MARSHA TAN,JOHOR BARU:
“Once full construction on the bridge takes off in the coming weeks, the bridge will reach the curve within one year and this is the point of no return,” he said( An official familiar with the project), referring to the point where the new link would have to curve to join the existing Causeway if Singapore decided against a full bridge.
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Originally posted by Sagara:
wow...he so witty...so clever....
[quote]Originally posted by 84mmrr:
[b]In jest, Dr Mahathir said: “I thought it was ‘cynic’ bridge. Is that how you spell it?”
Wrong ! It is THE 'STUPID' Bridge.[/b][/b] -
What if we don't build our side of the bridge when they completed theirs ?
What can they do about it ? -
Never ever do that just to spike themOriginally posted by Sagara:What if we don't build our side of the bridge when they completed theirs ?
What can they do about it ? -
It seems both sides have a head on conflicts.MY says ''scenic bridge is not a subject of negotiation''.SG says '' the implications of a half-bridge, if built without our agreement. The implications would be serious.''.
1."The scenic bridge is not a subject of negotiation.
Foreign Minister Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar today --''Minister clears the air''
"Otherwise, we are surrendering our rights with what we are doing within our territory to a foreign country. The one that is under negotiation is the full bridge."
By Wan Hamidi Hamid. Friday, 3 Feb 2006 .New Strait Times.
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(2) On 25 October 2003, we sent a Third Party Note (TPN) to Malaysia on this subject. In that TPN, Singapore reminded Malaysia that the unilateral decision to demolish its side of the Causeway to construct a half-bridge must comply with the principles enunciated in the Order issued by the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea.....Our TPN pointed out that international facilities such as the Causeway cannot be lawfully demolished without the approval, agreement and involvement of both States.
(3) Ms Irene Ng asked what would be the implications of a half-bridge, if built without our agreement. The implications would be serious.
REMARKS BY MINISTER FOR FOREIGN AFFAIRS GEORGE YEO IN PARLIAMENT IN RESPONSE TO QUESTIONS ON SINGAPORE-MALAYSIA AND SINGAPORE-INDONESIA RELATIONS, 17 OCTOBER 2005.
However,it is not a threat.Minister Yeo's point about the implications of building a half-bridge without Singapore's agreement was not a "threat". It was to highlight the serious legal implications which such a move would have under ITLOS."
-- 08/11/2005,
MFA Spokesman's Comments on Former Malaysian Prime Minister, Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad's Comments on Bilateral Relations.
3.Is it damn clear folks?MY will go ahead to build the scenic ,or half or crooked bridge.NO NEED TO TALK TO SG on this half bridge.
4.So ,if the full bridge talk break down,the causeway will be
demolished on MY side.We may have a 'serious' problems
with MY,in diplomatic term.
5.sources of info,in Malay and English --NEWS AND EVENT, Newsclippings of 2003 --2006. -
Seriously, what will they do if SG refuses to comply ?
Break the old causeway ?
It is against international laws to do so. Also, they need to consider the amt of MY citizens working in SG too. Will they even benefit anything from such a move ? Just what are they thinking ?
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wanna break the causeway just break lah...
they remind me of childish rebellious kids who just deserve a tight slap...
they can't even handle their crime rates and economy...good times proton and MAS also can lose billions of dollars...look at our SIA...making tons of money...somemore its their country's blue chips...come to a bridge issue...wanna be hero and start building and not wanting to negotiate...
to me...they are just hot air... -
benefits the Malaysian, or the Johorean?Originally posted by judge&jury:Let's first seek to undertand then to be understood.
If Singapore were in Malaysia shoe, I think Singapore die die also must built the bridge. Why?
Because it benefits Malaysia to built the bridge even if it is a half bridge.
benefits the politicians or the country?
benefits the pockets of a few or the people?
they started the project physically with no agreement whatsoever from singapore, now they are on the tiger's back, die die also cannot lose face.
should singapore die die also must spend 500 million to save their face as a good neighbour?? think..... -
They just wanna give jobs to the Bumis
Expect the bridge to be rebuilt aft yrs, on grounds of defects.. Why? To provide jobs what
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to first understand, u need to know FULLY what is happening. MY is NOT telling their singaporean counterpart what is ACTUALLY HAPPENING even if its for commercial viability of their 'container' ports ot build that half bridge.Originally posted by judge&jury:Let's first seek to undertand then to be understood.
If Singapore were in Malaysia shoe, I think Singapore die die also must built the bridge. Why?
Because it benefits Malaysia to built the bridge even if it is a half bridge.
your 2nd paragraph is kind of selfish and to say we die die also have to build the bridge just bcos it will benefit us...it makes no sense as it is legally and internationally binding agreement on BOTH sides to AGREE to go ahead for a full bridge.
msian govt should keep that in mind. -
to be more precise, to a small, select group of contractors .... to provide jobs for the Bumis ? .... I don't really think so, ... most of the construction jobs will go to the illegals and the foreign workers anyways, you think the average Bumi village folk in johor will get any benefits out of this project at all ? .... they talk about racial pride and protecting the Bumis and all that ... in the end, it all boils down to the vanity and pockets of a small group of people ....Originally posted by sbst275:They just wanna give jobs to the Bumis
Expect the bridge to be rebuilt aft yrs, on grounds of defects.. Why? To provide jobs what
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racial pride? wat pride? they proud of wat?Originally posted by Fatum:to be more precise, to a small, select group of contractors .... to provide jobs for the Bumis ? .... I don't really think so, ... most of the construction jobs will go to the illegals and the foreign workers anyways, you think the average Bumi village folk in johor will get any benefits out of this project at all ? .... they talk about racial pride and protecting the Bumis and all that ... in the end, it all boils down to the vanity and pockets of a small group of people .... -
What I mean is the contractor are owned by those bumisOriginally posted by Fatum:to be more precise, to a small, select group of contractors .... to provide jobs for the Bumis ? .... I don't really think so, ... most of the construction jobs will go to the illegals and the foreign workers anyways, you think the average Bumi village folk in johor will get any benefits out of this project at all ? .... they talk about racial pride and protecting the Bumis and all that ... in the end, it all boils down to the vanity and pockets of a small group of people .... 
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build my a55
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now they want to build bridge to Sumatra wat is scenic bridge now..
