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  • Herzog_Zwei's Avatar
    4,964 posts since Jul '06
    • Originally posted by PRP:
      Believe in science & ethics!I think this is a belief which most ppl can agree.

      We believe in science but not ethics unless it is backed by Mutually Assured Destruction. Laughing

  • hisoka's Avatar
    32,569 posts since Mar '05
  • miserable's Avatar
    252 posts since Oct '06
    • Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:
      What is ethics anyway? Why should people agree on ethics at all?

      I guess the ethics here supposedly refers as values relating to human conduct, with respect to the rightness and wrongness of certain actions and to the goodness and badness of the motives and ends of such actions

      But as time passes, people turns to monetary benefits over moral ethics. Inorder not to deviate too far from TS header "Believe in Science $ ethics". We created a new concept (Science + Profits = Ethics).

      As so to support the new concept, the government decided to bring in the new hubbies of such

      1) Singapore,the Healthcare Service Hub of Asia
      2) Singapore,the Science Hub,
      3) Singapore,the Global Bioscience Hub

      Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green

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    4,964 posts since Jul '06
    • Originally posted by hisoka:
      ethics is what? science can be believed meh?

      If I tell you there are 7 dimensions in reality, would you believe me? But if I show you mathematical proof of it, you may start to believe me.

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  • Fingolfin_Noldor's Avatar
    1,604 posts since Dec '06
    • Humbug. Our Govt is only interested in money. I’m not sure how ethics even fits in.

  • PRP's Avatar
    1,722 posts since Feb '04
    • Ethics: Don’t harm & cheat others.Be good to others.

      Edited by PRP 17 Aug `07, 7:52PM
  • Fingolfin_Noldor's Avatar
    1,604 posts since Dec '06
    • Originally posted by PRP:
      Ethics: Don't harm & cheat others.Be good to others.Do your job honestly.

      For which the Govt would have had an earned an epic FAIL. Laughing

  • Herzog_Zwei's Avatar
    4,964 posts since Jul '06
    • Originally posted by Fingolfin_Noldor:
      For which the Govt would have had an earned an epic FAIL. Laughing

      Which government?

  • rooki's Avatar
    369 posts since Feb '07
    • Originally posted by PRP:
      Ethics: Don't harm & cheat others.Be good to others.Do your job honestly.

      In other words, do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

      Empathy.

  • ^mR.yellow^86's Avatar
    793 posts since Oct '05
    • Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
      If I tell you there are 7 dimensions in reality, would you believe me? But if I show you mathematical proof of it, you may start to believe me.

      haha is there mathematicasl proof? i would like to know if there is Wink

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  • Herzog_Zwei's Avatar
    4,964 posts since Jul '06
    • Originally posted by ^mR.yellow^86:
      haha is there mathematicasl proof? i would like to know if there is Wink

      The superstring theories are part of the mathematical proof but to qualify the theories is another story altogether.(Taken from"The Theory Formerly Known As Strings". Scientific American, February 1998, pages 64-69.) NB. new studies prove there may be 10, 11 or 26 dimensions. Damn, I got to update my quantum mechanics and superstring theories again.

  • Herzog_Zwei's Avatar
    4,964 posts since Jul '06
    • Originally posted by Fingolfin_Noldor:
      Well ours of course. Laughing

      Our neighbours also earn the same grade....

  • mochou's Avatar
    1,742 posts since Jan '03
    • I don't really believe in Science.
      Especially on health.
      So many cases that this expert say something, then after many years, another expert said that the previous expert was wrong, it's actually total opposite.

      So which expert at which time should we believe??
      What ever we believe in now(told and proven by expert), maybe 5-10 years later another expert will prove them totally wrong.

      So how?

  • Fingolfin_Noldor's Avatar
    1,604 posts since Dec '06
    • Originally posted by mochou:
      I don't really believe in Science.
      Especially on health.
      So many cases that this expert say something, then after many years, another expert said that the previous expert was wrong, it's actually total opposite.

      So which expert at which time should we believe??
      What ever we believe in now(told and proven by expert), maybe 5-10 years later another expert will prove them totally wrong.

      So how?

      This is an incorrect perception.

      Science is ever evolving. With new information means changes. This is how it works. It is bad Science to leave things as it is especially when proven wrong.

  • mochou's Avatar
    1,742 posts since Jan '03
    • Originally posted by Fingolfin_Noldor:
      This is an incorrect perception.

      Science is ever evolving. With new information means changes. This is how it works. It is bad Science to leave things as it is especially when proven wrong.

      I understand your point that we should doubt things so that we prove them wrong and come up with new real truths.

      But before it's proven wrong, we have been believing in wrong things. And the newly proven truth, may end up being wrong when a better expert prove it wrong after some years.

  • Fingolfin_Noldor's Avatar
    1,604 posts since Dec '06
    • Originally posted by mochou:
      I understand your point that we should doubt things so that we prove them wrong and come up with new real truths.

      But before it's proven wrong, we have been believing in wrong things. And the newly proven truth, may end up being wrong when a better expert prove it wrong after some years.

      That depends on the vigour of the proof.

      The trouble with say medicine, is that a lot of stuff they do is based on studies, which are riddled with statistical problems etc.

  • Fingolfin_Noldor's Avatar
    1,604 posts since Dec '06
    • Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
      The superstring theories are part of the mathematical proof but to qualify the theories is another story altogether.(Taken from"The Theory Formerly Known As Strings". Scientific American, February 1998, pages 64-69.) NB. new studies prove there may be 10, 11 or 26 dimensions. Damn, I got to update my quantum mechanics and superstring theories again.

      Until Superstring theories deduce something that can proven in the lab, it's all going to be mathematical plooey.

      But they go round in circles, Physicists shall just have to work on stuff that is more easily accessible like finding the Higgs particle, and in areas in Atomic Molecular Optics and Condensed Matter.

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