Gays : To all Singapore Religious Leaders
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Simple solution for u:if u dislike my opinions,don't read them.Originally posted by crosshairs:I propose we close this thread. This thread is a pointless attack on a group of individuals. Continuing this debate gives certain intolerant individuals an avenue to abuse their so-called right to free speech. I think we have all said enough and heard enough. -
How did you know I was refering to you? I see you have heeded my advice to read my posts before you make any reference to them despite the fact that you mentioned that you do not wish to read them. You are very obedient.Originally posted by PRP:Simple solution for u:if u dislike my opinions,don't read them. -
Can someone please close this thread? Moderators? Please? I beg you? This is not interesting anymore. It's becoming a demonstration of logical failure of epic proportions.
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You know what? Farouk and PRP, you both win, gays and "HOMOs" must kowtow to you both because they are wrong, your theory of "straight sex only" is universal truth so go !#%* yourselves. Because both of you can be sure you are straight.
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Exactly !Originally posted by PRP:Simple solution for u:if u dislike my opinions,don't read them.
Similarly, if you do not like the gays, don talk about it!
If you reply, you are contradicting yourself ... -
Some ppl use the forum to discuss or debate .. some ppl just can't think and throw out stupid and funny remarks .. no point closing .. they can open another one again .. just laugh at the funny remarks .. and smile at their stupid statements .. heheOriginally posted by crosshairs:I propose we close this thread. This thread is a pointless attack on a group of individuals. Continuing this debate gives certain intolerant individuals an avenue to abuse their so-called right to free speech. I think we have all said enough and heard enough.
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U say choosing homo is like choosing tea or coffee.Both tea & coffee are good drink.So weren't you saying homo sex was good?Aren't u contracdict yourself?What is that "neither good nor bad" argument?
It is a matter of preference. U think they r good drinks but to an avid tea drinker or coffee drinker, they feel the other drink is sh!tty and is not good. One man need is another one poison. It is never a matter of right or wrong. Did I contradict myself ? U just aren't getting the point.U said geys did homo sex because they like it and it was not becuase it was good.Were u saying homo sex was not good?
I never say it is not good. I say they do it because they like to do it. Is watching movie or TV good ? Is eating oily and fatty stuff with high cholestrol good ? It is not good too because it waste your time doing other more productive work while the oily food made u have many obesity related diesease. But people still do it because they like it. And tat has nothing to do with u.Higher percentage of geys get AIDS.Why are geys promiscuous and get AIDS?
Wat has AIDs got to do with anything
If u r concerned of the diesease, then u should banned all people, whether they r straight or not instead of focusing on gays. Indians have higher obesity and heart diesease, malay have a higher drug abuse ratio, chinese have high blood pressure. So we ban all of them for their health problem and their bad comsumption habit ? -
==>> Stupid ppl ======> pls answer all the questions ... -
wah .. still discussing ah?
can someone summarise the arguments made so far?
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This was my argument in another thread.Originally posted by stupidissmart:Adultery is wrong because u let your other partner down. Incest can give birth to defect children which is cruel.
Incest can give birth to defect children, yes, but so can sex with an AIDS partner. Incest can lead to defect babies, but note that incest is not the act of creating babies.
Like the reasoning made by homosexuals, a sexual relationship is a private affair between two people. Why should the law be bothered by it?
The point is that throwing away any religious argument, there isn't any compelling reason to ban incest. -
Icemoon,
Good that u join in the debate.My style of argument doesn't work on them. -
SIS,Originally posted by PRP:SIS,
U say choosing homo is like choosing tea or coffee.Both tea & coffee are good drink.So weren't you saying homo sex was good?Aren't u contracdict yourself?What is that "neither good nor bad" argument?
U said geys did homo sex because they like it and it was not becuase it was good.Were u saying homo sex was not good?
Is homo sex good or bad or neither good nor bad?
Higher percentage of geys get AIDS.Why are geys promiscuous and get AIDS?
U didn't answer my questions satisfactorily althou you did try to rebut my point.Your kind of argument is really ......
When u compare homo sex as tea & coffee,u are saying it is morally right or good as hetero sex is.Why didn't u liken homo sex as a contaminated drink in your anology?Your anology is saying homo is morally right but u still claim it is no right or wrong.Your logics fails.
Homo sex doesn't concern me.Does it concern u?
Hiher percentage of geys get AIDS.Isn't it relate to homo?U said AIDS is due to promiscuity.Is promiscuity relate to homo?If yes,then homo is bad. -
Your best argument is :"Like the reasoning made by homo,a sexual relationship is a pte affair btn 2 ppl.Why should the law be bothered by it?"Originally posted by Icemoon:This was my argument in another thread.
Incest can give birth to defect children, yes, but so can sex with an AIDS partner. Incest can lead to defect babies, but note that incest is not the act of creating babies.
Like the reasoning made by homosexuals, a sexual relationship is a private affair between two people. Why should the law be bothered by it?
The point is that throwing away any religious argument, there isn't any compelling reason to ban incest.
Incest can give birth to defect children.Homo can lead to promiscuity,then promiscuity lead to higher chances of geting AIDS. -
I hope members who don't accept homo would speak up -- not necesary to engage a debate with homo supporters -- to express their stand or opinion.So the gey supporter would know that there are more ppl disagree with homo.
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The original hardwired aversion to incest in human brains was purely due to inbred inferior offspring. That has not kept up with contraceptives and sexual revolution, hence the perceived dissonance between consensual incest and the lack of reproduction.
And PRP, HETRO SEX IS NOT MORALLY GOOD. Get rid of this assumption NOW. Both sexual orientations are as equally valid as coffee or tea. Why, just because one kind produces offspring and the other doesn't automatically qualifies it as 'good'? I can say that homo sex is more moral in current society as Earth does not need more humans stripping it of resources.
Between infringing on and criminalizing the right of homosexuals and merely offending 'conservative Asian sensibilities', I know what I'll choose. The right to discriminate against others is no right. -
People like you, are dangerous.Originally posted by PRP:I hope members who don't accept homo would speak up -- not necesary to engage a debate with homo supporters -- to express their stand or opinion.So the gey supporter would know that there are more ppl disagree with homo. -
so what is the argument here? a bit confusing to me.Originally posted by rooki:The original hardwired aversion to incest in human brains was purely due to inbred inferior offspring. That has not kept up with contraceptives and sexual revolution, hence the perceived dissonance between consensual incest and the lack of reproduction. -
Once again, where is the discrimination?Originally posted by rooki:Between infringing on and criminalizing the right of homosexuals and merely offending 'conservative Asian sensibilities', I know what I'll choose. The right to discriminate against others is no right.
When heterosexual oral sex was criminal, did couples feel criminalised and discriminated?
I bet they were laughing it off, "what dumb law". -
PRP, gey supporters are trying to overthrow the majority vote., so numbers do not matter to them.Originally posted by PRP:I hope members who don't accept homo would speak up -- not necesary to engage a debate with homo supporters -- to express their stand or opinion.So the gey supporter would know that there are more ppl disagree with homo. -
Is he more dangerous than certain geys who have hidden agenda?Originally posted by crosshairs:People like you, are dangerous.
At least PRP goes STRAIGHT to the point. -
Oh don't worry, you're not the only one whom the bell curve doesn't favor.Originally posted by Icemoon:so what is the argument here? a bit confusing to me.
Where's the discrimination you say? Well, look into the mirror. Perhaps you could invite PRP as well.Originally posted by Icemoon:Once again, where is the discrimination?
When heterosexual oral sex was criminal, did couples feel criminalised and discriminated?
I bet they were laughing it off, "what dumb law". Laughing
Anybody who thinks homosexuality should be suppressed in society while hetrosexuality is championed is guilty of discrimination. -
I think you are trying to talk in a very cheam way, hope that I dont understand and drop the argument right?Originally posted by rooki:Oh don't worry, you're not the only one whom the bell curve doesn't favor.
Where's the discrimination you say? Well, look into the mirror. Perhaps you could invite PRP as well.
Anybody who thinks homosexuality should be suppressed in society while hetrosexuality is championed is guilty of discrimination.
Aren't we talking about the law? So I asked, when does the law discriminate geys? -
Oh I re-read again then I understand liao.Originally posted by rooki:The original hardwired aversion to incest in human brains was purely due to inbred inferior offspring. That has not kept up with contraceptives and sexual revolution, hence the perceived dissonance between consensual incest and the lack of reproduction.
In other words, you agreed with me right? 'cos once contraceptives and sexual revolution catch up (and why shouldn't they?), then incest shouldn't be criminal liao right? -
Yes, PRP go straight to the point. But what point?Originally posted by Icemoon:Is he more dangerous than certain geys who have hidden agenda?
At least PRP goes STRAIGHT to the point.
gays want to be gays.. and staight continue to be straight ... what is the problem here ? -
Gay be gay, and straight be straight .. extremists like you keep suppressing gays.. and making lots of funny comments when they didn't even interfere your business...Originally posted by PRP:I hope members who don't accept homo would speak up -- not necesary to engage a debate with homo supporters -- to express their stand or opinion.So the gey supporter would know that there are more ppl disagree with homo.
this is similarly like ..i making this statement ..
"I don't like your mother wearing black inside her today.. and should not be allowed..etc.. as this is only for sexy young ladies"
you may ask .. "mind your own business .. and what's your problem .."