Looks like its getting really serious....
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see the previous two charts...
Lucky for us the the financial markets crash did not happen...
If it did, then the liquidity crunch adding to the credit crunch would have been a big disaster.
It certainly looks like the US effort to sacrifice the US$ for the sake of the Stock Markets (proxy for the US economy) and expecting the rest of the world to help support the dollar, has stabilized the markets somewhat.
It is so good to be a 1st world democracy... the rest of the world has no choice (other than other 1st world democracies, meaning Euro zone) but to support these countries and let their citizens party on at the expense of the coolie economies.
Well looks like it is stable for now and as we move into the holidays season, unless something totally unexpected happens, it is going to be quiet, meaning, boring.....
Relax a little, but keep your guard up and continue to follow, but there is no need to follow too closely, until the markets starts to move.
Ho Jinx is really a Jinx. In July when she bought Barclays, it plunged and she could have bought it at a much cheaper price.
Just after she sold Bank of China, the markets stabilized and she could have sold at a much better price... hahahahaha JINX
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I am almost tempted to say, watch Ho Jinx moves (reverse) in foreign transactions and because Temasek has bully power locally, watch Ho Jinx moves in Singapore (linear)...
... but the truth is, there are too many things to consider when it comes to investing...
... speculating, like forex and futures are completely out of the question for they are, gambling, like casino gambling and in the end you will lose it all... -
... I made money from the Thai rubber markets only because I know many things that the average speculator in the rubber markets do not know...
... if you want to speculate the forex and futures markets, forget it, it will only be like gambling at the casino because you have no access to inside information...
... even then, I went in, made my money and stopped... you have to wait until you have good inside information.... if you want to win...
... depending on "odds calculation" using openly available information is useless...
... it is as good as a tikam tikam guess and like tikam tikam guesses, you will be right and you will be wrong at times...
... but losing money in the end is for certain. -
http://www.todayonline.com/articles/225097.asp
Temasek is reportedly eyeing such firms after it sold shares in 3 China companies in the week
Once Ho Jinx sell at rock bottom, the market stabilized and she could have sold at a much better price......
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Three divestments within a week. All executed in China. And a fresh pile of cash amounting to $1.6 billion.
What is Temasek Holdings up to? The markets have been buzzing since the Singapore investment firm sprang a triple surprise in the week by consecutively selling shares of big Chinese companies: Bank of China, China Construction Bank and shipping giant China Cosco Holdings.
Instead of selling in July (she bought) and instead of buying the last week she sold... hahaha Jinx....
... and really? She has a fresh cash pile of $1.6 b or she sold in desperate need for cash?
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Wow Andrew, you've uttered so much rubbish while i was gone, this is going to take some time.
Let's do this quote by quote:Lucky for us the the financial markets crash did not happen...
Was this supposed to explain for why the markets didn't crash as you predicted? In your infinite wisdom, shouldn't you have accounted for this possibility? Yeah, we're lucky the markets didn't crash. You also gain credit for us being lucky we didn't get hit by a meteor today. We were just lucky.
If it did, then the liquidity crunch adding to the credit crunch would have been a big disaster.It is so good to be a 1st world democracy... the rest of the world has no choice (other than other 1st world democracies, meaning Euro zone) but to support these countries and let their citizens party on at the expense of the coolie economies.
This one really convinced me you have no idea what you're saying when you string random words together. "1st world democracy"? WTF has a democracy got to do with the way they manipulate their economies? Can a communist country with USA's economic muscle not execute the same moves? But hey, stringing big words together make you sound more intelligent, right? Moving on!Ho Jinx is really a Jinx. In July when she bought Barclays, it plunged and she could have bought it at a much cheaper price.
I love how good your hindsight vision is. It's not like you've never made a wrong call before right. Oh right, the market crashes you predicted never happened. OMG ANDREW IS A JINX HAHAHAHA. Does that sound fair to you?
Just after she sold Bank of China, the markets stabilized and she could have sold at a much better price... hahahahaha JINXI am almost tempted to say, watch Ho Jinx moves (reverse) in foreign transactions and because Temasek has bully power locally, watch Ho Jinx moves in Singapore (linear)...
I don't understand that first paragraph here, and I'm almost certain no one else did, so there's nothing to say about that. Of course, the part about speculating and casino gambling is the one i want to talk about. In that thread you had about this very topic, you have proved yourself to be unfamiliar with casino gambling AND the forex. How are you in any way authorised to make judgements on either, and especially on both?
... but the truth is, there are too many things to consider when it comes to investing...
... speculating, like forex and futures are completely out of the question for they are, gambling, like casino gambling and in the end you will lose it all...... if you want to speculate the forex and futures markets, forget it, it will only be like gambling at the casino because you have no access to inside information...
Here we get to Andrew's secret. The reason why he thinks he's way of trading is the best, a surefire-win method. INSIDE INFORMATION! Yeah, bank robbing is sure win too, if you don't get caught. He follows on to say:
... even then, I went in, made my money and stopped... you have to wait until you have good inside information.... if you want to win...... depending on "odds calculation" using openly available information is useless...
In other words, in all his supposed experience in trading, he has never believed in the standard methods used for investments by honest traders everywhere. He views them as gambling, because it's not 100% success. Oh no, the only way to trade is to use insider information. Yup, this is what he's trying to preach here. Fundamentals? Useless. Estimation of odds? Useless. In other words, being the world champion in poker is useless, no matter what skills you have, because Andrew will always bet you, because he only plays when he can look at your cards. That's what he's trying to say here.
... it is as good as a tikam tikam guess and like tikam tikam guesses, you will be right and you will be wrong at times...
... but losing money in the end is for certain.Once Ho Jinx sell at rock bottom, the market stabilized and she could have sold at a much better price......
I find it odd that you advocated the importance of a stop loss in your market crash thread, yet seem to think that stop losses aren't important here. I know, you're used to insider's information. Hindsight bias doesn't apply to you. You KNEW the market would rebound right? Oh that's right, you agreed that the markets would crash too. Holy 20/20 hindsight batman.
So what you're saying is that, if you were running Temasek, despite the predictions you had that the markets would crash or dive lower, you would have held on to your positions?
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Ahh the customary Andrew response to being beaten. Ignore the thread for a few days and lick his wounds by posting irrelevant insults on a separate thread.
If I could only get him to stand still and answer a few simple questions, I'm pretty sure I'll prove he's pretty much a fraud. -
She needs cash to pay BNP in order to save Jurong shipyard.
Most of the investment suffers paper losses, so she selectively sell the shares of Chinese companies. Yeah? -
Possible... but we will never know will we? Like the time TT Durai ran NKF...Originally posted by googoomuck:She needs cash to pay BNP in order to save Jurong shipyard.
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Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:... I made money from the Thai rubber markets only because I know many things that the average speculator in the rubber markets do not know...
... if you want to speculate the forex and futures markets, forget it, it will only be like gambling at the casino because you have no access to inside information...
... even then, I went in, made my money and stopped... you have to wait until you have good inside information.... if you want to win...
... depending on "odds calculation" using openly available information is useless...
... it is as good as a tikam tikam guess and like tikam tikam guesses, you will be right and you will be wrong at times...
... but losing money in the end is for certain.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:... and just to clarify, although I said that I made money trading the rubber markets using inside information, I did not break any laws hor... -
perhaps you would like to elaborate on this "insider information".
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hahaha fell right into my trap... ... some people are just so easy...Originally posted by deathbait:perhaps you would like to elaborate on this "insider information".
Which laws exactly did you dodge breaking?
... don't know the law... don't make a fool of yourself...
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... and don't know the subject, come and make a fool of yourself by saying things like... "odds ARE everything..."
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... and what an idiot, I am still, continuing to enjoy the
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Your apparent desire to help others improve their knowledge(at a price) seems to run contary with your actions of keeping to the vague and avoiding details.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:hahaha fell right into my trap... ... some people are just so easy...
... don't know the law... don't make a fool of yourself...
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... good, I thought you have learnt your lesson not to be an idiot and shoot off your mouth about things you have no idea about and then after more than 10 pages, shown to be a grossly stupid idiot... and driven insane until you issue threats... apparently you have not learnt anything... good...Originally posted by deathbait:Your apparent desire to help others improve their knowledge(at a price) seems to run contary with your actions of keeping to the vague and avoiding details.
Oh i know the law. It says that you either don't know the law, or you don't really understand what you're saying.
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Andrew, DJ was closed on Sunday leh...how come you are working today?
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Andrew there is no point telling us you are smart by reporting DowJones and yesterday news because my notebook and internet connection is already capable for feeding me more accurate and timely information.
If you want to show us how smart an investor you are, let me ask you.
a) Suppose if your running a investment company that manage $100m worth of fund. Am I right to say that since July 2007 (as you claim is the time have predicted the market will crash)you would have already exit the stock market?
b) Suppose if Yes. What will you be doing with the $100m worth of funds?
c) Suppose your answer is NO, will you be able to tell us which are the stock which you will continue to hold starting from today (reason I asking starting from today is because I know you will dig out the best performing stocks from the last 3 months and say thats your prediction)
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gladly, as soon as you provide some details.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:... good, I thought you have learnt your lesson not to be an idiot and shoot off your mouth about things you have no idea about and then after more than 10 pages, shown to be a grossly stupid idiot... and driven insane until you issue threats... apparently you have not learnt anything... good...
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...so that is how you operate? Jump to conclusions without the necessary details? ass-hole...Originally posted by deathbait:gladly, as soon as you provide some details. -
... tell everyone that I have committed a crime and when I challenge you, ask me for the details... what a grossly stupid idiotic ass-hole...
... so all those opinions you gave, are as worthless as you opinion that I have committed a crime? Insane idiot. -
Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:
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... tell everyone that I have committed a crime and when I challenge you, ask me for the details... what a grossly stupid idiotic ass[b]-hole...
... so all those opinions you gave, are as worthless as you opinion that I have committed a crime? Insane idiot.[/b]
Andrew there is no point telling us you are smart by reporting DowJones and yesterday news because my notebook and internet connection is already capable for feeding me more accurate and timely information.
If you want to show us how smart an investor you are, let me ask you.
a) Suppose if your running a investment company that manage $100m worth of fund. Am I right to say that since July 2007 (as you claim is the time have predicted the market will crash)you would have already exit the stock market?
b) Suppose if Yes. What will you be doing with the $100m worth of funds?
c) Suppose your answer is NO, will you be able to tell us which are the stock which you will continue to hold starting from today (reason I asking starting from today is because I know you will dig out the best performing stocks from the last 3 months and say thats your prediction)
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... am I driving you insane by not answering your questions? Are you going to start another thread on me?
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... good coolie, that's what i want to hear... but don't become too insane until you start another thread on me hor...
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Andrew there is no point telling us you are smart by reporting DowJones and yesterday news because my notebook and internet connection is already capable for feeding me more accurate and timely information.
If you want to show us how smart an investor you are, let me ask you.
a) Suppose if your running a investment company that manage $100m worth of fund. Am I right to say that since July 2007 (as you claim is the time have predicted the market will crash)you would have already exit the stock market?
b) Suppose if Yes. What will you be doing with the $100m worth of funds?
c) Suppose your answer is NO, will you be able to tell us which are the stock which you will continue to hold starting from today (reason I asking starting from today is because I know you will dig out the best performing stocks from the last 3 months and say thats your prediction)
Over to you Andrew!!