Saudi king 'pardons rape victim'
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Wikipedia isn't my favourite research source, but I sense that a low level of instruction is required...Originally posted by protonhybrid:what do you mean by common law legal systems? and why do you say such an ancient system is advanced or desirable? apart from british colonies especially the lieks of singapore which licks their bums incessantly nobody else supports it frankly.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law
And I did not say that it was "advanced or desirable", only that it was more transparent, more familiar to foreign businesses and travellers and more consistent with the practices of other parts of the world.
As for the "licking of bums", I think anyone familiar with the foreign policy direction of SG will disagree with u... We are more accommodating to some countries than others... The UK isn't one of them. -
pathetic state of Middle East's mentality
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And you forgot an important part - An Singaporean Jew of iraqi descent set off the chain that lead to independence for Singapore . Mr David Saul Marshall.Originally posted by protonhybrid:you're again making baseless claims without any proof. your conclusions are ill conceived. yes we agree singapore was a british outpost in the post. and we agree in trade singapore is focussing more on asian region including china. however its education, culture entertainment, legal system, technology, politics, environment etc etc is moulded on british ones. as they were the ones who colonized singapore and singaporeans gladly or otherwise accepted them wholesale.
You also forgot - Singapore modified those british laws. Why do needless work again when there is a base template to use? It's called efficiency.
Why not start talking about Malaysia as well? Singapore was once part of Malaysia and I am pretty sure that Malaysian law is also modified from the colonial british ones.
All I hear from you is the hoo haa over anglophone culture. If anyone says anything contrary or opposing your views , they must be anglophone lovers. Learn to practice what you preach - you are one for baseless claims.
You are also fighting on the wrong soil insulting Singapore - this is a Singaporean forum. Go defend the culture of gender discimination in an Arabic forum if you don't want to listen to some of the Singaporean opinions. -
i suppose you'll also want students to stay at home if they don't want to learn different things.
A few of us here are trying to get people like you to realise there is more than one view in the world, and all you want to do is judge others by your own values.
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If not for people speaking up in masses , do you think that the world will progress? So if Nelson Mandela and his supporters didn't do nothing about racial apartheid in South Africa and it is still in force, that makes it right because it is their culture?Originally posted by deathbait:i suppose you'll also want students to stay at home if they don't want to learn different things.
A few of us here are trying to get people like you to realise there is more than one view in the world, and all you want to do is judge others by your own values.
You're kinda everything that's wrong with the world today.
So if you wish to stagnate, it's your perogative. Don't go around accusing others as wrong when they speak up on basic women's rights especially the part about being treated like a human being instead of some property or asset to be married off. -
change and progress are absolutes, not vectors.Originally posted by fymk:If not for people speaking up in masses , do you think that the world will progress? So if Nelson Mandela and his supporters didn't do nothing about racial apartheid in South Africa and it is still in force, that makes it right because it is their culture?
So if you wish to stagnate, it's your perogative. Don't go around accusing others as wrong when they speak up on basic women's rights especially the part about being treated like a human being instead of some property or asset to be married off.
Just because we happen to be on the cusp of progress does not mean that the change has led us down the fabled "correct path".
Contrary to your observation, it is you who are stagnating. You who are so self righteous that the current state is the "right" one. If we do not constantly question the alternatives, how are we to change, to evolve, to progress?
It is unfortunate in a sense, because your very character is the one you so often condemn. If the world were a different place, and the popular convention was that of female subjugation, you would still be here leading the cry against independent females in whatever country it is that has the misfortune of having different cultural views from yourself.
You are not the independent, free willed woman you pray fervently to be. Nay, you are exactly the same as the saudi women. Only the yoke you carry is not the shariah, but popular convention. You can talk about equal rights all you want, but you know as well as I do that you are the one who fears change. The one who cannot accept a different way of life.
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What a load of self-righteous bull.
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That is why we are examining the Sharia laws enforced in Saudi Arabia. Isnt this laws what you termed as 'alternatives' to Westernised society like ours? And all we can say is this 'alternative' is contemptuous to the female gender.Originally posted by deathbait:If we do not constantly question the alternatives, how are we to change, to evolve, to progress? -
I doubt that a Saudi woman can drive around without a male accompanying her.Originally posted by deathbait:change and progress are absolutes, not vectors.
Just because we happen to be on the cusp of progress does not mean that the change has led us down the fabled "correct path".
Contrary to your observation, it is you who are stagnating. You who are so self righteous that the current state is the "right" one. If we do not constantly question the alternatives, how are we to change, to evolve, to progress?
It is unfortunate in a sense, because your very character is the one you so often condemn. If the world were a different place, and the popular convention was that of female subjugation, you would still be here leading the cry against independent females in whatever country it is that has the misfortune of having different cultural views from yourself.
You are not the independent, free willed woman you pray fervently to be. Nay, you are exactly the same as the saudi women. Only the yoke you carry is not the shariah, but popular convention. You can talk about equal rights all you want, but you know as well as I do that you are the one who fears change. The one who cannot accept a different way of life.
You do not lack imagination. You fear it.
I also doubt that they are allowed to enter my current research stream and present information to male and female audiences.
I happen to doubt that they can live alone by themselves or own a property like me.
Furthermore , they cannot date freely while I can.
So what a load of bull you are sprouting. And besides I am one who can talk because I am a woman and you are not.
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Sharia laws were created for primitive societies and cannot be implemented in 21st century
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the more astute of readers here will of course realise the last few posts against mine vindicate me=)
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17th century mindset + 21st century realities = cultural relativism.Originally posted by deathbait:the more astute of readers here will of course realise the last few posts against mine vindicate me=)
You can continue to stuff your ears and run around babbling, but don't be surprised if you and protonhybrid get castrated by feminists.
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from wikipediaOriginally posted by CX:Wikipedia isn't my favourite research source, but I sense that a low level of instruction is required...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law
And I did not say that it was "advanced or desirable", only that it was more transparent, more familiar to foreign businesses and travellers and more consistent with the practices of other parts of the world.
As for the "licking of bums", I think anyone familiar with the foreign policy direction of SG will disagree with u... We are more accommodating to some countries than others... The UK isn't one of them.Common law legal systems are in widespread use, particularly in those nations which trace their legal heritage to Britain, including the United Kingdom, most of the United States and Canada, and other former colonies of the British Empire.
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and aren't singaporeans the ones who chant blindly their masters' mantra of freedom of speech, expression etc etc. why can't you take my opinions in here and ask me to leave?Originally posted by fymk:And you forgot an important part - An Singaporean Jew of iraqi descent set off the chain that lead to independence for Singapore . Mr David Saul Marshall.
You also forgot - Singapore modified those british laws. Why do needless work again when there is a base template to use? It's called efficiency.
Why not start talking about Malaysia as well? Singapore was once part of Malaysia and I am pretty sure that Malaysian law is also modified from the colonial british ones.
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how did you drag malaysia into this? I dont see the link.
And what you're essentially saying is IF bumlicking provides for favourable treatment from your masters, you'd choose that over asserting your own rights or freedom etc
that's because All you bring up is reference to anglophone culture, i guess you bieng an anglo colony can't help that. however you should always bear that in mind.
All I hear from you is the hoo haa over anglophone culture. If anyone says anything contrary or opposing your views , they must be anglophone lovers. Learn to practice what you preach - you are one for baseless claims.
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You are also fighting on the wrong soil insulting Singapore - this is a Singaporean forum. Go defend the culture of gender discimination in an Arabic forum if you don't want to listen to some of the Singaporean opinions. -
hmm more indicative of your pathetic mentality i'm afraid.Originally posted by ceecookie:pathetic state of Middle East's mentality -
IF TRUE, that would make it a perfect fit for your society judging by your comments.Originally posted by googoomuck:Sharia laws were created for primitive societies and cannot be implemented in 21st century
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mate first of all you should've had your doubts cleared before you made a comment on any topic.Originally posted by fymk:I doubt that a Saudi woman can drive around without a male accompanying her.
I also doubt that they are allowed to enter my current research stream and present information to male and female audiences.
I happen to doubt that they can live alone by themselves or own a property like me.
Furthermore , they cannot date freely while I can.
So what a load of bull you are sprouting. And besides I am one who can talk because I am a woman and you are not.
So there we go . Happy now?
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TUNIS (AFP) - Nearly one in three people in the Arab world is illiterate, including nearly half of all women in the region, the Tunis-based Arab League Educational Cultural and Scientific Organisation said Monday.Originally posted by protonhybrid:IF TRUE, that would make it a perfect fit for your society judging by your comments.
democracy, for instance, is an even older concept dating back 2,5 thousand years.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/arabseducationilliteracytunisia
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Not really. It just says that you are apathetic. That is all. Perfect product of indoctrination.Originally posted by deathbait:the more astute of readers here will of course realise the last few posts against mine vindicate me=) -
Instead of bringing in your idea of seeing a free striptease - why not bring in the issues of women not being treated as human beings but as property to be traded off in marriage. Why not bring in the issue of women not being allowed to choose their partners but instead forced into marriages where they have no escape ?Originally posted by protonhybrid:mate first of all you should've had your doubts cleared before you made a comment on any topic.
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how do you figure that?Originally posted by fymk:Not really. It just says that you are apathetic. That is all. Perfect product of indoctrination.
Or is accusing someone of being the product of indoctrination popular here?
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And what is your point? That the US and Canada are "bum licking anglophones"?Originally posted by protonhybrid:i stand by my original point.
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You are accusing me of nothing really.Originally posted by deathbait:how do you figure that?
Or is accusing someone of being the product of indoctrination popular here?
Actually, I would accuse you of the same. You prefer the status quo, and refuse to even consider alternatives that challenge your beliefs
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Alternatives that are regressive? What a joke.Originally posted by deathbait:how do you figure that?
Or is accusing someone of being the product of indoctrination popular here?
Actually, I would accuse you of the same. You prefer the status quo, and refuse to even consider alternatives that challenge your beliefs
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ahhOriginally posted by LazerLordz:Alternatives that are regressive? What a joke.
Go ahead and indulge yourself kind sir.
but it is you who brand it as regressive.
Next you'll call the hive caste system as regressive simply because you don't understand it