http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/301137 en-US 60 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by weiqimun:</div> <div class="quote_body">yawn..... <img title="Mr. Green" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_mrgreen.gif" alt= "Mr. Green" /></div> </blockquote> <p>R u a gey?</p> Sun, 13 Jan 2008 17:28:18 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:301137:7744754 PRP http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/301137 <p>yawn..... <img title="Mr. Green" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_mrgreen.gif" alt="Mr. Green" /></p> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:32:41 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:301137:7735762 weiqimun http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/301137 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by nehpyh:</div> <div class="quote_body">Okok...i admit it....<br /> <br /> I admit it...I'm Stoo-pid (in bold and red).<br /> <br /> SO I think, it's not homicide la...you mean the analyst is homo meh?? The the taxi driver must be homophobic! Maybe even have an grudge against homo analyst!<br /> <br /> And an anal-yst somemore!!!!!! <img title="Shocked" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_eek.gif" alt="Shocked" /><br /> <br /> Lagi jialak! <img title="Mr. Green" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_mrgreen.gif" alt= "Mr. Green" /><br /> <br /> P/S: Homicide means killing of more than one homo right?</div> </blockquote> <p>U stupid,homi is not the same as homo.Why hasn't u joined the topic on homo to give anit-homo some support?</p> Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:50:09 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:301137:7737765 PRP http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/301137 <p>Wat the fu k r u talking about ?</p> Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:22:17 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:301137:7728853 stupidissmart http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/301137 <blockquote> <p>Originally posted by :<br /> <strong>Please stop discussing the law whether it should be this or that when it is abundantly clear that you fellas know nothing about the law! You fellas want to portray yourselves very intelligent but end up looking absolutely <span style= "color: red;">[b]STOO-PID</span></strong>! <img title= "Evil or Very Mad" src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_evil.gif" alt="Evil or Very Mad" /> <img title="Evil or Very Mad" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_evil.gif" alt="Evil or Very Mad" /> <img title="Evil or Very Mad" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_evil.gif" alt= "Evil or Very Mad" /><br /> <br /> Empty vesels make the most noise..... <img title="Rolling Eyes" src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt= "Rolling Eyes" /> <img title="Rolling Eyes" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="Rolling Eyes" /> <img title="Rolling Eyes" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="Rolling Eyes" /> <img title="Rolling Eyes" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="Rolling Eyes" /> <img title="Rolling Eyes" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="Rolling Eyes" /> [/b]</p> </blockquote> <p>Okok...i admit it....<br /> <br /> I admit it...I'm Stoo-pid (in bold and red).<br /> <br /> SO I think, it's not homicide la...you mean the analyst is homo meh?? The the taxi driver must be homophobic! Maybe even have an grudge against homo analyst!<br /> <br /> And an anal-yst somemore!!!!!! <img title="Shocked" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_eek.gif" alt="Shocked" /><br /> <br /> Lagi jialak! <img title="Mr. Green" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_mrgreen.gif" alt= "Mr. Green" /><br /> <br /> P/S: Homicide means killing of more than one homo right?</p> Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:35:05 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:301137:7728624 nehpyh http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/301137 <p>I think what irked me off is how the taxi driver is showing little or no remorse at all.<br /> <br /> this could happen to any of us or our children..<br /></p> Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:40:35 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:301137:7728404 iceFatboy http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/301137 <blockquote> <p>Murder = Planned homicide<br /> <br /> He didnt plan to kill him. Thus = Rash Act.</p> </blockquote> <p>First of all I need to say I used to deal with the law before... though not indepth but got very very very basic knowledge of it...<br /> <br /> if u look at the law book<br /> <br /> <span style="font-style: italic;">Exception 1 When culpable homicide is not murder.<br /> Culpable homicide is not murder if the offender whilst deprived of the power of self-control by grave and sudden provocation, causes the death of the person who gave the provocation, or causes the death of any other person by mistake or accident.</span><br /> <br /> By grave and sudden provocation (such as u caught your wife sleeping with another) u kill another, u have committed culpable homicide. But u have not committed murder.<br /> <br /> There r 3 level<br /> <br /> Murder = always give death penalty<br /> culpable homicide = maximum life time imprisonment<br /> rash act = 2 years jail</p> Wed, 09 Jan 2008 00:23:58 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:301137:7726454 stupidissmart http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/301137 <p>A person was in front of the taxi,the taix sdriver till drove ahead.Of couse the taxi driver should know his car could kill someone.So to charge him for homicide is not wrong too.</p> Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:18:46 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:301137:7724070 PRP http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/301137 <p>This case has been discussed at length and no amount of punishment will be sufficient in the eyes of the victim's family.<br /> <br /> It cannot be proven that there was intent to murder. It can also be speculated that the victim placed himself in a compromising position in his overzealous attempts to prevent the cabby from driving off.<br /> <br /> Ultimately, it takes two hands to clap. <img title="Rolling Eyes" src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt= "Rolling Eyes" /></p> Tue, 08 Jan 2008 14:40:23 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:301137:7723590 BillyBong http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/301137 <p>Murder = Planned homicide<br /> <br /> He didnt plan to kill him. Thus = Rash Act.</p> Tue, 08 Jan 2008 13:49:53 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:301137:7723383 Sagara http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/301137 <p>Please stop discussing the law whether it should be this or that when it is abundantly clear that you fellas know nothing about the law! You fellas want to portray yourselves very intelligent but end up looking absolutely <span style= "color: red;"><strong>STOO-PID</strong></span>! <img title= "Evil or Very Mad" src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_evil.gif" alt="Evil or Very Mad" /> <img title="Evil or Very Mad" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_evil.gif" alt="Evil or Very Mad" /> <img title="Evil or Very Mad" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_evil.gif" alt= "Evil or Very Mad" /><br /> <br /> Empty vesels make the most noise..... <img title="Rolling Eyes" src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt= "Rolling Eyes" /> <img title="Rolling Eyes" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="Rolling Eyes" /> <img title="Rolling Eyes" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="Rolling Eyes" /> <img title="Rolling Eyes" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="Rolling Eyes" /> <img title="Rolling Eyes" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt= "Rolling Eyes" /></p> Tue, 08 Jan 2008 13:02:29 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:301137:7723235 <Precious> http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/301137 <blockquote> <p>Originally posted by stupidissmart:<br /> <strong><br /> <br /> <span style="font-style: italic;">Whoever causes death by doing an act with the intention of causing death, or with the intention of causing such bodily injury as is likely to cause death, or [b]with the knowledge that he is likely by such act to cause death</span>, commits the offence of culpable homicide.</strong><br /> <br /> The 4 commandoes r not guilty of culpable homocide because they do have the knowledge their actions can kill the person. Dunking people's head into water has been conducted in SAF for many years and tis guy is the first one who die due to tis. They did not invent tis treatment but they r following training schedule allocated to them<br /> [/b]</p> </blockquote> <p>It was a rash act on the part of the Minister of Defence to cover his own backside. <img title="Evil or Very Mad" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_evil.gif" alt= "Evil or Very Mad" /></p> Tue, 08 Jan 2008 12:47:55 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:301137:7723194 Short Ninja http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/301137 <p>The car started off as stationary. They stopped because of an accident. Then the person prevent the taxi driver from running and block the taxi. Whether he climb onto the bonnet or not, the taxi started off at zero speed. Then the taxi accelerate, hit the person before braking and let the person fly off and die. I believe he knew tat driving the taxi and hit the person will cause death.<br /> <br /> From the newspaper<br /> <br /> <span style="font-style: italic;">During their heated argument, Lee refused to divulge his details. So Lim stood in front of Lee's cab to stop him from leaving the scene.<br /> <br /> But Lee braked suddenly and <strong>then drove into Lim</strong> who was clinging onto the cab's bonnet.</span><br /> <br /> from another newspaper<br /> <br /> <span style="font-style: italic;">To stop Lee from leaving before giving his particulars, Mr Lim stood in front of the taxi, but the cab driver moved off nonetheless, throwing him onto the bonnet. <strong>Lee then accelerated and braked abruptly</strong>, causing Mr Lim to fall backwards and hit his head on the road.</span><br /> <br /> ...<br /> <br /> <span style="font-style: italic;">The judge also described Lee as being “vague and evasive” during the trial, and slammed Lee’s account that <strong>Mr Lim had jumped onto the cab’s bonnet as “far-fetched” and a “mere afterthought”</strong>.</span><br /> <br /> ...<br /> <br /> <span style="font-style: italic;">The judge also reproached Lee for his nonchalance and lack of remorse</span><br /> <br /> From <a href="http://www.todayonline.com/articles/230417.asp" rel= "nofollow">http://www.todayonline.com/articles/230417.asp</a><br /> <br /> He is already stationary, then he purposely drive into him. Tat is intentional</p> Tue, 08 Jan 2008 12:19:53 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:301137:7723154 stupidissmart http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/301137 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by stupidissmart:</div> <div class="quote_body">From<br /> <a href= "http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/320518/1/.html" rel= "nofollow">http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/320518/1/.html</a><br /> <br /> Actually, I am pretty surprised at the light punishment given to tis Lee for killing a life. The other party loses a life while he only get a year jail. (probably lesser from all the public holidays and good behavior kinda things) If u abuse maids, u get even heavier sentence than tis. If u get caught for being a gay, u even get 2 years jail compared to his one year jail.<br /> <br /> From wat I see, tis Lee wilfully kill another over trivial matters and should be sentence to murder (sad to say is a death penalty but lets just be fair and say if he has committed murder or not) From the look of the case, the victim has the right to get tis Lee particulars after an accident. And he is not even regretful or repentent. Has justice been done here ?<br /> <br /> My understanding of death by rash act goes like tis. If u drive a car and someone actually spring out of nowhere and u kill him. Or u have a flower pot or window tat fell off and kill someone. U r sentenced to tis act and tat explains the light sentence because u r not wilfully killing him.</div> </blockquote> <p>Taxi driver didn't have the intention to 'kill' that bugger la. I believe he was trying to scare or teach that fella a lesson - similar to your 'death by rash act'. It's not like he ran that fella over.<br /> <br /> Think about it, if someone jumped onto your bonnet of your speeding car, you'll also jam brake what...<br /> <br /> What that cock taxi driver 'didn't' know is that the momentum can be really great to push the poor sod unto the ground. If he's Commando, at least he'll know 'chin-on-chest-strap' and 'push-turn-roll-over' to protect his numbskull what....<br /> <br /> Now the back of the head is very fragile - a light strike to it can cause loss of consciousness. Heavy blow can be fatal. That's why that joker in another thread was complaining about his teacher hitting his empty vessel with an exercise book. Ego and nut all bruised.<br /> <br /></p> Tue, 08 Jan 2008 11:57:27 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:301137:7723042 nehpyh http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/301137 <blockquote> <p>Hmm, that reminds me of the four commandoes in the dunking trial. I am sure they knew that their actions were potentially lethal, didn't they?</p> </blockquote> <p><span style="font-style: italic;">Whoever causes death by doing an act with the intention of causing death, or with the intention of causing such bodily injury as is likely to cause death, or <strong>with the knowledge that he is likely by such act to cause death</strong>, commits the offence of culpable homicide.</span><br /> <br /> The 4 commandoes r not guilty of culpable homocide because they do have the knowledge their actions can kill the person. Dunking people's head into water has been conducted in SAF for many years and tis guy is the first one who die due to tis. They did not invent tis treatment but they r following training schedule allocated to them<br /></p> Mon, 07 Jan 2008 23:15:44 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:301137:7721065 stupidissmart http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/301137 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by stupidissmart:</div> <div class="quote_body">Rash act is doing something silly, like having a flower pot dropping and kill someone or u play with someone in the pool and u drown the person unintentionally.</div> </blockquote> <p>Hmm, that reminds me of the four commandoes in the dunking trial. I am sure they knew that their actions were potentially lethal, didn't they? <img title="Confused" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_confused.gif" alt="Confused" /></p> Mon, 07 Jan 2008 22:29:28 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:301137:7720758 iveco http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/301137 <blockquote> <p>299. Culpable homicide<br /> <br /> <strong>Whoever causes death</strong> by <strong>doing an act</strong> with the <strong>intention</strong> of causing death, or with the intention of causing such bodily injury as is likely to cause death, or <strong>with the knowledge that he is likely by such act to cause death, commits the offence of culpable homicide</strong>.</p> </blockquote> <p>From the above, the taxi driver seems to have all the ingredient to culpable homicide. He causes death, with intention, by driving his car, knowingly tat can kill the person and he has commit culpable homicide. 4 ingredients r present as written in bold<br /> <br /> Looking at rash act<br /> <br /></p> <blockquote> <p>Whoever causes the death of any person by doing any rash or negligent act <strong>not amounting to culpable homicide</strong>, shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 2 years, or with fine, or with both[/b]</p> </blockquote> <p>The important words are in bold. Tat means the person had committed death but not sufficient to be considered as culpable homicide. If u look at the 4 ingredients, <strong>intention</strong> is the one tat is considered the most important point.<br /> <br /> So if the taxi driver has intention to kill the person, then it is culpable homicide. If he has no intentions, it is rash act.<br /> <br /> Rash act is doing something silly, like having a flower pot dropping and kill someone or u play with someone in the pool and u drown the person unintentionally.</p> Mon, 07 Jan 2008 21:12:34 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:301137:7720386 stupidissmart http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/301137 <p>A rash act can kill someone.Manslaughter is to kill somepone.So that case was more likely a rash act.</p> Mon, 07 Jan 2008 20:56:45 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:301137:7720286 PRP http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/301137 <p><br /> what's his lawyer's name again ? .... <img title="Laughing" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" /></p> Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:28:22 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:301137:7719830 Fatum http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/301137 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by stupidissmart:</div> <div class="quote_body">I used to think rash act is something like throwing a stone anyhow and it kill someone u don't intend or your flower pot drop down and it kill a person. Otherwise there is no such thing as murder or manslaughter isn't it ?</div> </blockquote> <p>That is reckless behavious. N normally you are contributionary to the actions and the cause of it.</p> Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:25:46 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:301137:7719815 BadzMaro http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/301137 <blockquote> <p>So that makes his action premeditated and wilful? Let's not jump the gun here.</p> </blockquote> <p>He saw the person is in front of the car, and driving ahead is going to knock him isn't it ? If he drive the car and knock him, it is obvious it is dangerous enough to kill the person. He have all the ingredient for premeditated and wilful.</p> Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:23:12 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:301137:7719804 stupidissmart http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/301137 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by stupidissmart:</div> <div class="quote_body">He has intention... A person is standing in front of his taxi, he knew accelerating can kill him, and he accelerated and kill him.</div> </blockquote> <p>So that makes his action premeditated and wilful? Let's not jump the gun here.</p> Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:00:28 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:301137:7719704 iveco http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/301137 <p>I used to think rash act is something like throwing a stone anyhow and it kill someone u don’t intend or your flower pot drop down and it kill a person. Otherwise there is no such thing as murder or manslaughter isn’t it ?</p> Mon, 07 Jan 2008 14:08:35 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:301137:7718439 stupidissmart http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/301137 <p>killing someone with a gun is stupid.<br /> killing someone with a vehicle is clever.<br /> <br /> just claim any random accident and you'll be fine. 1 year later, you still be another hero to kill another of you enemy <img title= "Smile" src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_smile.gif" alt= "Smile" /></p> Mon, 07 Jan 2008 13:12:51 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:301137:7718264 extrinsic http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/301137 <p>Read somewhere that the victim was actually holding onto the bonnet. The taxi driver must have thought about how to get him off, which he continuing driving and jammed his brakes causing the victim to be flung off the bonnet by the braking inertia and causing him to hit his head on the road. That to me is premeditated causing harm and injury….leading to death.</p> Mon, 07 Jan 2008 13:08:32 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:301137:7718251 carrotsoup http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/301137