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  • Catknight's Avatar
    2,125 posts since Oct '07
    • wow..KMT won…what does it mean to taiwan with china relations and the whole asia pacific region???

  • reddressman's Avatar
    1,488 posts since Jul '07
    • Originally posted by Catknight:
      wow..KMT won...what does it mean to taiwan with china relations and the whole asia pacific region???

      Congratulations to denying a party continued happiness in the name of Democracy!

      People have the right to end their reign. That is democracy 101.

      The TAIWAN people have proven to the world their democracy is alive and well!

      When a ruling party is overthrown,

      will TAIWAN stock market and econcomy crash? Of course not!

      Like in usa, no matter who wins, the economy continues ! sometimes becoming even better!!!

      what does this imply?

  • Gordonator's Avatar
    43,200 posts since Jul '04
    • if ma ying jiu wins the presidential election, will taiwan turn into another singapore? afterall ma ying jiu always praise singapore on it's efficient government. Rolling Eyes

      Edited by Gordonator 12 Jan `08, 9:51PM
  • Catknight's Avatar
    2,125 posts since Oct '07
  • reddressman's Avatar
    1,488 posts since Jul '07
    • Originally posted by Gordonator:
      if ma ying jiu wins the presidential election, will taiwan turn into another singapore? afterall ma ying jiu always praise singapore on it's efficient government. Rolling Eyes

      I think he might like to replicate the longevity. its a proven method of management... already.

      1 thing he needs to seriously understand is tw is not the size of sg. Wink

      Edited by reddressman 12 Jan `08, 10:38PM
  • the stifmeister
    fairlady_xoxo's Avatar
    11,351 posts since Jan '07
  • reddressman's Avatar
    1,488 posts since Jul '07
    • Originally posted by fairlady_xoxo:
      Taiwan is a mess...their politics is worse than rojak...

      and has the TW stock market crashed ?
      Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

      has businesses stopped earning money?

      Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

      has innovations stopped ?
      Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

      life goes on.

  • I-like-flings(m)'s Avatar
    13,889 posts since Feb '04
    • Originally posted by Gordonator:
      if ma ying jiu wins the presidential election, will taiwan turn into another singapore? afterall ma ying jiu always praise singapore on it's efficient government. Rolling Eyes

      Hope Ma ying jiu win.... just look back...the last 10 yrs or so for taiwan.... their country become only famous for MP fighting on tv... and maybe their singer only.... other industries.... all become like sh.it..... Laughing Laughing Laughing

  • the stifmeister
    fairlady_xoxo's Avatar
    11,351 posts since Jan '07
    • Originally posted by reddressman:
      and has the TW stock market crashed ?
      Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

      has businesses stopped earning money?

      Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

      has innovations stopped ?
      Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

      life goes on.

      That's the irony of it all...apparently...their society doesn't coincide much with the politics...its like another media "entertainment"

  • oxford mushroom's Avatar
    4,820 posts since Mar '05
    • Originally posted by reddressman:
      and has the TW stock market crashed ?
      Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

      has businesses stopped earning money?

      Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

      has innovations stopped ?
      Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

      life goes on.

      Wake up your idea, kiddo! Whilst China and Singapore have done well economically over the past few years riding on the global stock market boom, Taiwan's economy had stagnated. Talk of democracy, mindless protests in the streets and fighting in parliament have not improved the lives of the people. Why do you think the Taiwanese want a change in government now? It's the economy, stupid! Mr. Green Mr. Green

  • sbst275's Avatar
    87,753 posts since Jun '04
    • Originally posted by reddressman:
      and has the TW stock market crashed ?
      Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

      has businesses stopped earning money?

      Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

      has innovations stopped ?
      Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

      life goes on.

      But the economy is slowly collapsing

      Taiwan used to be the world's largest container port, now it's the No 6 or 7... Laughing Laughing Laughing

  • August Band - Sunshine
    laurence82's Avatar
    90,579 posts since Nov '03
    • Singapore stock market didnt crash either, neither has the business stop earning generally

      So which one would you have, a squabbling parliament who need to resort to violence, or a stable government?

      Not that I am ready to support PAP, but I think using stock market, business profits and squabblings parliaments as benchmarks isnt the way to go

  • wisefool83's Avatar
    479 posts since Aug '06
    • Originally posted by Catknight:
      wow..KMT won...what does it mean to taiwan with china relations and the whole asia pacific region???

      As excited as I am about KMT's victory, I will be cautiously optimistic about TW's relationship with Mainland China in the immediate future. For one, the victory of the legislature election do not automatically means victory for the presidential election and it is the President which will hold the executive power to improve the relationship with Mainland China. Although with more than 3/4 seats under KMT, the party can now pass and reject any law it wishes and even amend the constitution or impeach the President.

      Secondly, even if Ma Yingjiu wins the President election, there may be little that he can do to reverse what DPP has done. Chen had for the past two terms, very successfully, instill within the Taiwan folks a sense of fear for an eventual reunification with Mainland China. And Ma has little chance of improving relationship without triggering this fear and hence offering an opportunity to the soon to be opposition DPP to rally the Taiwanese. This will have implication for the next election which KMT no doubt has little interest in losing. The best Ma can hope is that both Mainland and Taiwan will just leave things aside to cool, but if he wins the election, it is likely that Mainland will want some sort of clarification from him.

      I suspect that his policy would be to increase economical and cultural exchanges across the straits with the hope that Taiwanese will understand Mainland more but downplay the official political stand.

  • In_Between_Days's Avatar
    337 posts since Aug '07
    • So does this victory mean that Taiwan is still an independent democracy?

      Pls! I dun wan them 2 join communist China!

  • royston_ang's Avatar
    343 posts since May '07
    • Originally posted by oxford mushroom:
      Wake up your idea, kiddo! Whilst China and Singapore have done well economically over the past few years riding on the global stock market boom, Taiwan's economy had stagnated. Talk of democracy, mindless protests in the streets and fighting in parliament have not improved the lives of the people. Why do you think the Taiwanese want a change in government now? It's the economy, stupid! Mr. Green Mr. Green

      Taiwan economy remain stagnated because it is technically still at war with China. Therefore, Taiwan is unable to enjoy the economical bloom in China like other Asian countries. If Taiwan is to put much of its investment in China, that will put Taiwan at a disadvantage.

      Similarly, if Singapore and Malaysia relationship have been very bad, the Singapore gov will not be stupid enough to invest in Malaysia, right? Rolling Eyes

  • Trump_Card's Avatar
    4,471 posts since Apr '07
    • Originally posted by royston_ang:
      Taiwan economy remain stagnated because it is technically still at war with China. Therefore, Taiwan is unable to enjoy the economical bloom in China like other Asian countries. If Taiwan is to put much of its investment in China, that will put Taiwan at a disadvantage.

      Similarly, if Singapore and Malaysia relationship have been very bad, the Singapore gov will not be stupid enough to invest in Malaysia, right? Rolling Eyes

      KMT is pro-China ... Won't be a problem I guess ...

  • will4's Avatar
    2,938 posts since Oct '05
    • Originally posted by fairlady_xoxo:
      Taiwan is a mess...their politics is worse than rojak...

      President Chen of Taiwan has been shot before n the perpetrator was later found dead in his house. Investigation has shown the letter to the press

      that President Chen has not taken care of the economy n has only tried to be funny with China only.

  • royston_ang's Avatar
    343 posts since May '07
    • Originally posted by Trump_Card:
      KMT is pro-China ... Won't be a problem I guess ...

      Well, if KMT is pro-China, isn't it funny for ma ying jiu to contest in the presidential election since China never recognize Taiwan as a country. So what is ma ying jiu contesting for? Major of Taiwan province? Laughing Laughing Laughing

  • sbst275's Avatar
    87,753 posts since Jun '04
    • Originally posted by Trump_Card:
      KMT is pro-China ... Won't be a problem I guess ...

      But right now it downplays any reunification move

      They want to make peace and remain status quo

  • ahsiang12's Avatar
    114 posts since Nov '07
    • I feel sad seeing Ah Bian sobbing. Sad Taiwanese should vote an ally of Bush.My friend hates Ah Bian and Bush which I cannot understand why.Do you know that the new winning party in Taiwan is against Christianity?

  • qlqq9's Avatar
    4,929 posts since Jul '07
    • Originally posted by ahsiang12:
      I feel sad seeing Ah Bian sobbing. Sad Taiwanese should vote an ally of Bush.My friend hates Ah Bian and Bush which I cannot understand why.Do you know that the new winning party in Taiwan is against Christianity?

      What "rational" thinking you have! Ha ha ha! So so so what! You mean Christianity and politics are one? Why don't you ask God to bring in Christian political party to rule Taiwan then? ha ha ha!

  • aHGer^83's Avatar
    18,727 posts since Jun '02
  • qlqq9's Avatar
    4,929 posts since Jul '07
    • Glad that the people made their choice to stand firm to show they want a better life in Taiwan. As a result, DPP suffers great and pathetic loss. hooray. What about the people of Singapore?

      Ma will not rule Taiwan like the Lees. The last time he was here he made it clear that though he praised Singapore but what is practised here does not apply to Taiwan as Taiwan is a democratic country. Glad he knows we are not totally democratic or not democratic at all.

  • googoomuck's Avatar
    1,912 posts since Feb '06
    • Taiwan will not be part of China, not matter which party wins.

      Does the elected leader want to be president of a country or a governor of a province? Laughing

  • Diao Chan's Avatar
    53 posts since Nov '07
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