It no longer just Looks like its getting really serious.....
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Wah!!! so fast u respondedOriginally posted by AndrewPKYap:I didn't think that you too would want the markets to slap you in the face before you wake up....
Btw I no need to wake up because I sleep very very little - something inherent in me
I have Singtel & Smrt & so far the market is quite ok with my portfolio
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... you 'sleep very very little'? oh, so you were referring to yourself...Originally posted by richong 3216:Wah!!! so fast u responded
Btw I no need to wake up because I sleep very very little - something inherent in me
I have Singtel & Smrt & so far the market is quite ok with my portfolio -
Wears that hat that fits
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STI below 3100.....
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Such an ironic statement. ha!Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:Investors are cool, Gamblers are desperate -
Cool and gross stupidity are two different things...Originally posted by sillyme:Such an ironic statement. ha!
Investors will coolly get out of the market when the time is right and not desperately try to get out just because they made money...
Similarly investors will monitor the market but coolly wait for an opportune time to get in and not desperately try to pick bottoms or try to profit from rebounds. -
... idiots and mindless believers of propaganda, on the other hand coolly hope against hope and attack the messenger, after they have been warned way in advance... only to stare at the markets crashing down....
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I guess you would do well to separate politics and stock market performance, especially when we are politically stable. No point producing monday graphs based on friday dow jone's performance also, think everybody understands the correlation.
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... what politics and stock market performance? I am talking about their policies taking an unnecessary toll on the Singapore economy with their policies of taking as much money as possible of the people's money and putting as many people in debt as much as possible.Originally posted by kramnave:I guess you would do well to separate politics and stock market performance, especially when we are politically stable. No point producing monday graphs based on friday dow jone's performance also, think everybody understands the correlation.
In good times, these sort of despotic behavior, to benefit themselves and their cronies, the dangers of unnecessary risking the health of the Singapore economy, is not apparent.
When (not if) times turn bad like now, their policies cause unnecessary harms and risk to the economy and increases the suffering of the people.
... and what 'producing monday graphs based on friday dow jone's performance'? The graphs in themselves are of limited value and significance and should be seen with reference to my three threads warning people of an impending crisis since July 2007.
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... in good times, they take and put people into debt, is not just obnoxious, but is actually dangerous to the health of the Singapore economy during the bad times, like now.
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Does not sound like an investor to me.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:Cool and gross stupidity are two different things...
Investors will coolly get out of the market when the time is right and not desperately try to get out just because they made money...
Similarly investors will monitor the market but coolly wait for an opportune time to get in and not desperately try to pick bottoms or try to profit from rebounds. -
Then? Buy and don't look and don't care?Originally posted by sillyme:Does not sound like an investor to me. -
Investors look at the business fundamentals, not market sentiments or movements.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:Then? Buy and don't look and don't care? -
That is the later part... the last step.Originally posted by sillyme:Investors look at the business fundamentals, not market sentiments or movements.
Way before that you need to get the strategic fundamental considerations right.
It is like now, don't bother to look at 'business fundamentals' of any company.
In July I started the thread 'BTW you people know that the market crashed today?' and November 'Looks like its getting really serious', was because of the deterioration of the strategic environment that prompted me to do it.
Only after you have determined that the macro economic conditions are favorable; your finances are appropriate for investing and only then do you finally, 'look at the business fundamentals' of a company.
There is also a place for speculating and investing but that is too dangerous for most people and they end up losing all their money while imagining that they are going to be a top trader.
If I tell you to buy the June Yen spread, not only do you not understand what I am talking about, if it gets people curious and they respond to those newspaper advertisements promising and advertising how much money their students make... that would really be doing everyone a disfavor.
I would rather tell everyone why and how they would lose their money. After people know why and how they will lose money, only after that do you even think of speculating and gambling. You need to be conversant with the dangers first. Otherwise, you take the plunge and find yourself sucked into an under-current, it will be too late.
What I am doing in this thread, the objective, is to help everyone to be aware of it when the strategic fundamentals change to something more favorable for investing and then to do what like you said, 'look at the business fundamentals' of a company.
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What did I say in my opening post on 10th November, the thread "Looks like its getting really serious..... "?
I have been observing the markets for the past 20+ years and it has never looked so bad....
That was Nov 10th.
It is not a question whether you believe me or not. It is not a question of belief, something which the idiots that flamed the thread cannot understand.
It is to doubt what I say and then do some research to determine the truth for yourself.
Determine if it is true that I have been observing the markets for the past 20+ years and it has never looked so bad....
At that time people could have gotten out with much less pain.
If they were smart enough and I repeat, not believe in me, but to do some research for themselves. If all they do is to believe what the Straits Times say, then just too bad... they should know never to believe... not me, not the Straits Times. This is not something that a Christian can understand. -
STI below down more after lunch...
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worse than the 1987 one ? Anyway not flaming you but a lot of kopitiam uncles also predicting market crash this year. Not to say that it is inaccurate, perhaps it might happen after all since expectations are high...then again it might not.
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They said it in July 2007? They said it on Nov 10th? Bluffing who?Originally posted by kramnave:worse than the 1987 one ? Anyway not flaming you but a lot of kopitiam uncles also predicting market crash this year. Not to say that it is inaccurate, perhaps it might happen after all since expectations are high...then again it might not. -
The markets are crashing because of kopitiam uncles?Originally posted by kramnave:a lot of kopitiam uncles also predicting market crash this year. .... perhaps it might happen after all since expectations are high...
It is not because of a US recession? It is not because the sub-prime crisis is triggering a recession in the US and causing upheavals in the currency markets?
It is because of kopitiam uncles?
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ah no..i was just thinking about the similarities...middle aged men with nothing to do and going through hormonal changes and needing to feel important...maybe i carried my thoughts a little to far...Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:The markets are crashing because of kopitiam uncles?
It is not because of a US recession? It is not because the sub-prime crisis is triggering a recession in the US and causing upheavals in the currency markets?
It is because of kopitiam uncles?
Can you blame me if I say you are a delusional idiot?
u can call me anything you like, delusional idiot etc etc if it satisfies your ego.
I totally understand, i might just go through the same stage later in life...i pray i don't though...... -
do u work?
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You can suggest that old uncles chatting in the kopitiam can cause worldwide financial upheavals ... you are so young and already delusional and/or so mindless, what hope is there for you?Originally posted by kramnave:ah no..i was just thinking about the similarities...middle aged men with nothing to do and going through hormonal changes and needing to feel important...maybe i carried my thoughts a little to far...
u can call me anything you like, delusional idiot etc etc if it satisfies your ego.
I totally understand, i might just go through the same stage later in life...i pray i don't though...... -
... read the thread from the beginning to find out.Originally posted by newcomer:do u work? -
....the markets delivered another tight slap on the faces of the idiots for me....
.... the slap on your face, feel it, idiots?
deathbait
soul_rage
chin eng
hloc
Timmay
lagrangian1125
CX
kramnave
Previously I left out kramnave because he did not try to be smart... but since he said old uncles chatting in the kopitaim caused this, I have no choice but to include him....