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  • Dr Who's Avatar
    1,359 posts since Aug '04
    • Name : RAdm(NS) Lui Tuck Yew (Member of Parliament)
      Constituency : Tanjung Pagar GRC
      Party Affiliation Razzeople’s Action Party
      Place of Birth : Singapore
      Date of Birth : 16.08.1961
      Marital Status : Married
      No of Children : 2
      Religion : Christianity

      Educational Qualifications
      1967-1973 PSLE (Anglo-Chinese Primary School)
      1974-1977 GCE 'O' Level (Anglo-Chinese School)
      1978-1979 GCE 'A' Level (Anglo-Chinese Junior College)
      1983-1983 CLII (Trinity College, Cambridge University)
      1994-1994 Master of Arts (Int'l Relations) (Fletcher School of Law & Diplomacy, Tufts University)
      2003-2003 Advanced Management Programme Harvard Business School, US

      Present Occupation
      30.05.2006 Minister of State, Ministry of Education

      Member of Parliament
      27.04.2006 Tanjong Pagar GRC

      Career
      1999-2003 Chief of Navy, SAF
      2003-2005 Chief Executive, MPA
      2005-2006 Chief Executive Officer, HDB

      Awards and Decorations
      1985 SAF Good Service Medal
      1991 SAF Long Service & Good Conduct Medal
      1993 Public Admin Medal (Bronze)(Military)
      1995 SAF Long Service Award
      2000 Public Admin Medal (Gold)/Military)
      2005 National Day Honours - Long Service Medal

      Interests
      Travelling, Reading, Cricket, Baseball, Football

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  • Lin Yu's Avatar
    2,775 posts since Jul '07
  • Dr Who's Avatar
    1,359 posts since Aug '04
    • This is the thinking of Elite people mah.........very clever one, not like the rest of the rubbish and garbage like us non-elites......

  • mhcampboy's Avatar
    23,452 posts since Feb '06
    • Educational Qualifications
      1967-1973 PSLE (Anglo-Chinese Primary School)
      1974-1977 GCE 'O' Level (Anglo-Chinese School)
      1978-1979 GCE 'A' Level (Anglo-Chinese Junior College)
      1983-1983 CLII (Trinity College, Cambridge University)
      1994-1994 Master of Arts (Int'l Relations) (Fletcher School of Law & Diplomacy, Tufts University)
      2003-2003 Advanced Management Programme Harvard Business School, US

      Last time O and A levels 3 and 1 years respectively ar??

      What kind of degree and masters he took that only takes 1 year to complete??

  • phil30k's Avatar
    436 posts since Jan '08
  • <Precious>'s Avatar
    6,568 posts since Jul '06
  • phil30k's Avatar
    436 posts since Jan '08
    • Originally posted by Lin Yu:
      and he agrees that these sec 5 should go ITE Mad Mad Mad

      I recall in the papers that the Ministry is vouching for the principal's character. They may wish to consider handing this sort of counselling over to an independent team.

  • de_middle's Avatar
    15,231 posts since Aug '05
    • Originally posted by mhcampboy:
      Last time O and A levels 3 and 1 years respectively ar??

      What kind of degree and masters he took that only takes 1 year to complete??

      "gifted" programme Laughing

  • Trump_Card's Avatar
    4,076 posts since Apr '07
    • Originally posted by mhcampboy:
      Last time O and A levels 3 and 1 years respectively ar??

      What kind of degree and masters he took that only takes 1 year to complete??

      Same la Laughing

      O' lvls also 4 years here - 1974 , 75 , 76 ,77 mah

  • mhcampboy's Avatar
    23,452 posts since Feb '06
    • Originally posted by Trump_Card:
      Same la Laughing

      O' lvls also 4 years here - 1974 , 75 , 76 ,77 mah

      Where got count like that.... Confused

      74-75 =1 year

      75-76 = 1year

      76-77= 1year

      total = 3 years... Neutral Neutral

      Then how you explain the A levels?

  • ndmmxiaomayi's Avatar
    53,021 posts since Aug '05
    • I agree with him.

      ITE isn't a second class education institute. Whether or not Sec 5 students do well and move on to polytechnic is another matter.

      Why don't a lot of people understand? What's so bad?

      Nobody is implying that your results are bad. If it creates a dent in your confidence, it's because you believe that ITE is a second class institute. If you never hold the view, you won't be affected.

      Just wake up. Going there isn't bad, not learning is. Learning is a lifelong process, where you go doesn't matter. Does one need to have prestigious schooling to do well? Rolling Eyes

  • allentyb_v2.01's Avatar
    512 posts since Nov '07
    • If something ain't broken, don't fix it, that dick is trying too hard to change something that isn't broken, sec 5 should have the optional to choose whatever they want, instead of trying too hard to implement changes, he himself, have not suffer hardship before, and furthermore, ite environment is not as good as what polytechnic has to offer.

      If that dick try too hard to change something, he will be a public enemy, his actions only tell me that, he is trying too hard to increase the student studying in ite, thats all, and mayi, since you are in polytechnic, don't comment so much when you have not even study in a classroom of ite before! You have no idea what is it like in there!

      How about you exchange your diploma cert for a ite cert, since you said that it isn't as bad as what you think.

      Nobody want to spend 2 years in ite, then move on to polytechinc, think of the time, you could have spend out there in the society earning MONEY, and furthermore, ite studies should be optional for sec 5 students instead of making an end route for sec 5 students! Time is money, think about spending 2 years in ite, then 3 years in polytechinc, then 2 years of NS, imagine how much time, will be spend when you can earn more money out there with the 2 years that you have spend in ite.

      You however, never consider, time is a key factor in this!

      Edited by allentyb_v2.01 17 Jan `08, 1:44PM
  • eagle's Avatar
    16,243 posts since Aug '01
    • He has never even worked as a teacher before, how would he know how teachers feel and think and experience?

  • Trump_Card's Avatar
    4,076 posts since Apr '07
    • Originally posted by mhcampboy:
      Where got count like that.... Confused

      74-75 =1 year

      75-76 = 1year

      76-77= 1year

      total = 3 years... Neutral Neutral

      Then how you explain the A levels?

      Where got count like that ?

      what it meant was 1974 (1 year = jan - dec)

      1975 (1 year = jan - dec)

      So on and forth ... Laughing

      Same logic applies to everyone , even his A levels 1978 and 1979 = 2 years

      Edited by Trump_Card 17 Jan `08, 1:46PM
  • allentyb_v2.01's Avatar
    512 posts since Nov '07
    • This is what happen when kids trying too hard to comment in speaker corner when they never even bother to think of the various factor involved,

      imagine, when you graduate from ite, then move on to poly, then 2 year of ns, how old will you be already!

      24 years old! and if you are sec 5 and spend 3 years in poly and then 2 years of ns, you will only be 22 years old

      and 2 years of income for a fresh diploma student

      1600 X 12 = 32k per annual

      32 k X 2 years = 64 k

      mayi, can you even understand at all!

  • 798's Avatar
    28,784 posts since Jun '03
    • hopefully he will not screw up the education system like dat tamade indian piece of $@*%

  • genie99's Avatar
    114 posts since Dec '07
    • Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:
      I agree with him.

      ITE isn't a second class education institute. Whether or not Sec 5 students do well and move on to polytechnic is another matter.

      Why don't a lot of people understand? What's so bad?

      Nobody is implying that your results are bad. If it creates a dent in your confidence, it's because you believe that ITE is a second class institute. If you never hold the view, you won't be affected.

      Just wake up. Going there isn't bad, not learning is. Learning is a lifelong process, where you go doesn't matter. Does one need to have prestigious schooling to do well? Rolling Eyes

      ITE is bad.... if it isn't you would have opted for it instead of Uni/poly. Why is that? Cause blue collar workers don't earn much in Singapore.

      Dun kid yerself that it's not.

      Yes one needs prestigious schooling to do well.... cause white collar jobs take into account your "paper". It's the system SG adopts.

  • eagle's Avatar
    16,243 posts since Aug '01
    • Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:
      I agree with him.

      ITE isn't a second class education institute. Whether or not Sec 5 students do well and move on to polytechnic is another matter.

      Why don't a lot of people understand? What's so bad?

      Nobody is implying that your results are bad. If it creates a dent in your confidence, it's because you believe that ITE is a second class institute. If you never hold the view, you won't be affected.

      Just wake up. Going there isn't bad, not learning is. Learning is a lifelong process, where you go doesn't matter. Does one need to have prestigious schooling to do well? Rolling Eyes

      Nobody saying that it is bad

      Just the way the principal put it to the students

  • ndmmxiaomayi's Avatar
    53,021 posts since Aug '05
    • I don't buy the time factor. I'm in favour of getting the basics right, however long you take.

      If you care about how old you are by the time you have a decent job, why not just join ITE apprenticeship scheme instead and from there upgrade your skills.

  • Unidentified's Avatar
    3,832 posts since Sep '05
    • Originally posted by eagle:
      Nobody saying that it is bad

      Just the way the principal put it to the students

      Actually i think ITE and Poly are almost the same la , is how the way both school organised themself made people think themself as high or low class

      When one academic grades are not good , the school alway recomend them ITE , poly only say: no ''O'' , no go. Thus most of the ''not study type'' are pushed into ITE.

      If one day , they change that O level can only go ITE , and those not so good result ones go to poly , i think few year down the road , all elites are fighting for ITE

      The school or MOE draw out clearly themself that ITE is low grade school , and people aiming for high grade school , they keep claiming that student are looking down on ITE.

  • Dr Who's Avatar
    1,359 posts since Aug '04
    • ITE education is not in this thread.

      This thread is on the Elite man, the one who knows what is best for ALL the children in Singapore. The one who decides who goes for higher education.

      The one who has all the loving consciencious school principals at his feet, obeying all orders as all civil servants should, disregarding their own performance appraisals and bonuses.

      The one who has more say over a child's destiny than his own parents.

      He is your Minister

      Hail..... I salute him with my hand. I put his divine mark on my forehead.

      er....sorry hor, I donno his divine number........

  • Unidentified's Avatar
    3,832 posts since Sep '05
    • Originally posted by genie99:
      ITE is bad.... if it isn't you would have opted for it instead of Uni/poly. Why is that? Cause blue collar workers don't earn much in Singapore.

      Dun kid yerself that it's not.

      Yes one needs prestigious schooling to do well.... cause white collar jobs take into account your "paper". It's the system SG adopts.

      Actually you shouldn't look that way , if everyone aspire to be lawer or doctor , then who will be the one in the hawker

      High pay job must have rare good people , if the whole street are lawyer and doctor , then their salary i suppose to be lower than blue collar.

      Got to admit also la , if the white collar you refering is gov job , then is really high pay , i dont see blue collar salary got any raise at all for the past few year

  • 798's Avatar
    28,784 posts since Jun '03
    • nowaday so many graduated from uni these days n many could not even find their dream job. n there r majority who take home wif less than $2K n some could not find a job until now.

      i find graduates who completed poly or ite will have a hard time to survive in sg. Sad

  • ORIGAMIST's Avatar
    1,683 posts since Jan '05
    • Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:
      I agree with him.

      ITE isn't a second class education institute. Whether or not Sec 5 students do well and move on to polytechnic is another matter.

      Why don't a lot of people understand? What's so bad?

      Nobody is implying that your results are bad. If it creates a dent in your confidence, it's because you believe that ITE is a second class institute. If you never hold the view, you won't be affected.

      Just wake up. Going there isn't bad, not learning is. Learning is a lifelong process, where you go doesn't matter. Does one need to have prestigious schooling to do well? Rolling Eyes

      I agree whole heartedly with you and tha'ts the reason I asked my son to go ITE. BUT now the Ministry endored that ITE is "second " class !!!!

  • ORIGAMIST's Avatar
    1,683 posts since Jan '05
    • Originally posted by genie99:
      ITE is bad.... if it isn't you would have opted for it instead of Uni/poly. Why is that? Cause blue collar workers don't earn much in Singapore.

      Dun kid yerself that it's not.

      Yes one needs prestigious schooling to do well.... cause white collar jobs take into account your "paper". It's the system SG adopts.

      Don't say that. I have living proof that there are people making it good from ITE education. ITE was his stepping stone and he went on to get his degree. He is now a Manager in one of the Singapore GIC earning high pay . . . .

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