http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/307669 en-US 60 <p>&lt;&lt;<a href= "http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/308655" class="" rel= "nofollow">The impression that ours gubbymen given us many hongbao</a> &gt;&gt;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>hi,&nbsp;</p> <p>maybees, it'd the truth</p> <p>that not many the gubbymen in the worlds gaven hongbaos, maybe they no chinese culturality or otherwisdom.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>people alound the worlds thinking with impressione that ours gubbymen are nice that they given angbaos with price incrementals.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>i am a little bit confussed.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>1. What is the basis for giving out AngBao?</p> <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; optionals:</p> <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; a. goods price increment.</p> <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; b. taxation incrementalisatione.</p> <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; c. servids price incrementz.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>then i urge you to thinks also</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>2. Does the price of living still increase despite the angbao?</p> <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; optionals:</p> <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; a. yes.</p> <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; b. no.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>3. Does yours salarieds increase more than the all goods and servidses price increases ?</p> <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; optionals:</p> <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; a. yes.</p> <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; b.&nbsp;no.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>4.&nbsp; If I charge you&nbsp;500 more for a house you wanna&nbsp;renting from me, but I&nbsp;offers you's 100 big ones to subsizing you's for the rental incrementalisatione,&nbsp; by way of a red packet, what is this mean?</p> <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; a. L is the P and P is the Eller.</p> <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; b. wow, i am impressed by the generousity and kind gesture of the gubbymen. where in the worlds gawd like dis wan neh?</p> <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;c.&nbsp; why not just price hike by 400 instead and make things simpler and less administrative work and less thing for renters to digestatione?</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>what is the sg'rean mentality on this form of impressionism?</p> <p>many in the worlds got this impressionism that ours gubby are very the goodie. But then horz, many i spokened to sayd they scared scared to recip angs pows. i no no de why.&nbsp; u know meh? u so smart iq meh? advise lorz.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Sun, 24 Feb 2008 13:33:05 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:307669:7880214 Reddressman. http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/307669 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by sunnytv:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>They already plans a lot of way to take it back. Some had already happening. <img src= "/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/KMess-Cartoon/devil.png" alt= "devil.png" /><img src= "/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/KMess-Cartoon/devil.png" alt= "devil.png" /><img src= "/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/KMess-Cartoon/devil.png" alt= "devil.png" />&nbsp; ERP, CPF, taxi fares, bus fares,&nbsp; GST, etc. You can never escape.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>&nbsp;That's called being efficient. <img src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt="icon_lol.gif" /></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:35:29 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:307669:7868892 charlize http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/307669 <p>We need more able Opposition politicians lah.&nbsp; People with real credibility and real experience in managing&nbsp;and making money.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>Maybe next GE got more capable people willing to stand for Opposition.</p> Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:47:43 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:307669:7867643 onlooker123 http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/307669 <p>&nbsp;</p> Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:23:33 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:307669:7865245 sunnytv http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/307669 <p>They already plans a lot of way to take it back. Some had already happening. <img src= "../../../images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/KMess-Cartoon/devil.png" alt= "devil.png" /><img src= "../../../images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/KMess-Cartoon/devil.png" alt= "devil.png" /><img src= "../../../images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/KMess-Cartoon/devil.png" alt= "devil.png" />&nbsp; ERP, CPF, taxi fares, bus fares,&nbsp; GST, etc. You can never escape.</p> Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:22:18 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:307669:7865243 sunnytv http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/307669 <p>Don't worry, they will set up ERP gantry everywhere and&nbsp;raise GST to 10% so as to be&nbsp;in line with those&nbsp;developed country's value-added tax to get back the money.</p> Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:19:09 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:307669:7864763 Kenashi http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/307669 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Catknight:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>The world need to find a fairer distribution of state wealth..our govt just following economics 101 from the western model, so really can’t blame them.<br /> If only asians are more creative in revamping our financial model different from the conventional one, but then again with the elites being the beneficaries of the present system, why rock the boat?</p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br /> Good point raised <img src= "/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/KMess/thumbs_up.png" alt= "thumbs_up.png" /></p> <p>Attention* Salute <img src= "/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/KMess-Cartoon/teeth.png" alt= "teeth.png" /></p> Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:19:38 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:307669:7864501 Genie99a http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/307669 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by ^tamago^:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>everytime they raise something, they give it back to u on the first year. after tat, nobody remembers anything....</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>correct, they help you a little the 1st year and then leave you to die the subsequent years!</p> Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:53:13 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:307669:7864485 lotus999 http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/307669 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by 333225520:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>After giving money out, will come up with new scheme to take back the money. <img src= "/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/KMess-Cartoon/teeth.png" alt= "teeth.png" /></p> </div> </blockquote> <p>we all know that.but we're afraid of changes.</p> Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:38:44 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:307669:7864413 dumbdumb! http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/307669 <p>in their system,&nbsp; you either vote for them or you don't get to vote at all...</p> Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:57:46 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:307669:7864356 dukedracula http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/307669 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by sgdiehard:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>A&nbsp;little money is better than no money. I will&nbsp;keep the money, with pride as a Singapore citizen.</p> <p>But that doesn't change my views&nbsp;on any of the government policies.</p> <p>Anybody here who&nbsp;think the money is a PAP tactics, don't want to be insulted as a beggar, can&nbsp;pool your money together and&nbsp;put up an advertisement in the&nbsp;papers to announce your displeasure.</p> <p>or you can all give&nbsp;them to the poor and show the government how to help the poor.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>OR vote them out.</p> Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:58:27 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:307669:7864233 fymk http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/307669 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by ^tamago^:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>everytime they raise something, they give it back to u on the first year. after tat, nobody remembers anything....</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>I would guess the poor remembers if life becomes tougher for them.</p> Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:46:48 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:307669:7864212 kramnave http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/307669 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by dukedracula:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>wasn't it recently reprted the 2% gst increase netted almost a billion dollars? if so, this supposed 'hong bao' isn't as fantastic as it's been made out isn't it?..........</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>everytime they raise something, they give it back to u on the first year. after tat, nobody remembers anything....</p> Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:42:41 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:307669:7864205 ^tamago^ http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/307669 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by dukedracula:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>wasn't it recently reprted the 2% gst increase netted almost a billion dollars? if so, this supposed 'hong bao' isn't as fantastic as it's been made out isn't it?..........</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>Well, if you believe their report, it was also reported that the extra GST collected is equaled to the amount of money given out to the people.</p> <p>This 'hong bao' is being given out before the next totalling of the amount of extra GST to be collected this year. The growth dividends should not be considered as part of the GST offset package.</p> Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:39:11 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:307669:7864056 eagle http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/307669 <p>wasn't it recently reprted the 2% gst increase netted almost a billion dollars? if so, this supposed 'hong bao' isn't as fantastic as it's been made out isn't it?..........</p> Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:17:06 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:307669:7863900 dukedracula http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/307669 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by 333225520:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>After giving money out, will come up with new scheme to take back the money. <img src= "/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/KMess-Cartoon/teeth.png" alt= "teeth.png" /></p> </div> </blockquote> <p>+1..I foresee an increase in GST to 9% next yr so they can recoup e money given out</p> Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:06:19 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:307669:7863885 cyborgboy http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/307669 <p>shiok ah! more price hike coming.</p> <p>so this time what are going to go up again?</p> Sun, 17 Feb 2008 02:44:49 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:307669:7863411 digicharat http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/307669 <p>So a average sg man will receive how much huh? Lets say if he is staying with parents and a NSmen ( MR ). Earning below S$40k a year.</p> Sat, 16 Feb 2008 22:46:13 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:307669:7862932 Manager433 http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/307669 <p><span style="font-size: xx-small;">Those who have served and are currently serving national service will get an additional $100 of Growth Dividends, to recognise their contributions to the nation.</span></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>So&nbsp;will a disruptee get the $100? Seems like a grey area here..</p> Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:56:06 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:307669:7862794 BonJovi http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/307669 <p>After the gst was raised by 40%, food prices have gone up by more than 7%.</p> <p>The govt. imposed the tax. Businessmen raised the prices and cause inflation.</p> <p>Anybody very sure that the first wave of inflation was not caused by the increase in gst?</p> Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:22:55 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:307669:7862676 googoomuck http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/307669 <p>below 21 how?</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>We are also hit by the GST etc. Is it because below 21 are not eligible to vote? haha.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Sat, 16 Feb 2008 20:25:00 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:307669:7862547 Li4nGsteR http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/307669 <p>A&nbsp;little money is better than no money. I will&nbsp;keep the money, with pride as a Singapore citizen.</p> <p>But that doesn't change my views&nbsp;on any of the government policies.</p> <p>Anybody here who&nbsp;think the money is a PAP tactics, don't want to be insulted as a beggar, can&nbsp;pool your money together and&nbsp;put up an advertisement in the&nbsp;papers to announce your displeasure.</p> <p>or you can all give&nbsp;them to the poor and show the government how to help the poor.</p> Sat, 16 Feb 2008 18:36:51 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:307669:7862376 sgdiehard http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/307669 <blockquote> <p>&nbsp;</p> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by browniebaobao:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p><span style="color: #ae3cee;">think we are beggars meh?</span></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><span style="color: #ae3cee;">wahlew.. now everything price hike.. everyday i pay how much more due to the 2% GST increase, and other living expenses.&nbsp;</span></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><span style="color: #ae3cee;">I believe everyone who earns an average salary will feel the strain, especially from for the past 3 mths, due to festive.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><span style="color: #ae3cee;">$400 a lot meh?&nbsp; Can help meh?&nbsp; especially to the needy..they are facing financial difficulties everyday in their life.. not a one-yr-one-time thing.&nbsp; &nbsp;</span></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><span style="color: #ae3cee;">and simi CPF payout scheme between age 65-90.. what a stupid idea.</span></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;like that we might as well embark on a journey to become a quitter liao...<img src= "/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/redones/angry.png" alt= "angry.png" /></p> Sat, 16 Feb 2008 18:33:59 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:307669:7862374 kengkia http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/307669 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by fymk:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>Not if you factor in how GST works out on the common person.</p> <p>It is not just a one off 7%. For example :&nbsp; 7% on the raw materials+ 7% on the labour + 7 % on the production + 7% on the marketing services + 7% on the&nbsp; sales service which ends up with&nbsp; &gt;7% on the product.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>If the product cost = raw materials + labor + production + market services + sales service, 7% of each of the component will add up to 7% of the total product cost. Not more than 7%.</p> Sat, 16 Feb 2008 18:18:36 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:307669:7862355 sgdiehard http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/307669 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by stellazio:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>21.<img src= "/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/KMess-Cartoon/teeth.png" alt= "teeth.png" /></p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br /> Yeah, finally I can get it since I just turned 21. <img src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_razz.gif" alt= "icon_razz.gif" /></p> Sat, 16 Feb 2008 17:18:54 +0800 politics.sgforums.com:10:307669:7862308 Miss Tiny http://politics.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/307669