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Just received a Utube link from a friend. Please click and enjoy. They said it so well except the part whereby that specky guy talked about PAP solving problems which I don't agree. I doubt this guy knows the ways of PAP that well compared to the rest of the speakers. He is not aware PAP hardly solve problems, the only way they solve problems most of the time is by using money (money to the gahmen).
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Originally posted by qlqq9:
I doubt you watch the link or you only watch a little.
You said the only way PAP solve problem is by using money.I am asking you, isnt it the same for other countries?
You fight the iraq war you need money.
You build dams you need money,
you build schools, you need money,
you provide subsidize healthcare you need money,
you build missle defence shield you need money,
you build roads you need money
you fight HIV, you need money
you flush our illegal immigrant you need money
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Originally posted by Spartans:
qlqq, you have to acknowledge the fact that LKY does not care about what the international community thinks of him at all.
Anyway why will the PAP care about outsiders' perception? The only thing matters is Singaporeans and PR.
Happy Lunar New Year and may you have a great year ahead, Spartans.
Not so much about the old lky, it is encouraging to know people from other countries speak our mind so to say. I am always hoping for countries all over the world to see more and more dirt of lky, cissy lhl and his gang.
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LKY will care whether he will go to heaven or down to hell when he dies.
Originally posted by Spartans:qlqq, you have to acknowledge the fact that LKY does not care about what the international community thinks of him at all.
Anyway why will the PAP care about outsiders' perception? The only thing matters is Singaporeans and PR.
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I have to agree a guy on the show comment on Singapore.That is he say:”Singapore is a country with no Soul”.
That is very true,and the reason why Singapore is so is becoz our PAP leaders have no LP or character.LKY boot-lick communist China,his son boot-lick his father and other countries,Lou Goh boot-lick LKY and his son.
They all sell their own souls to other ppl in one way or another.Thats why Singapore government,to other ppl,is a country with no soul,no own culture,no character country.
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No,we need FTs to run for PAP,those PAP leaders and ministers are too incompetence to take care of we Singaporeans
Originally posted by Genie99a:Who he admires isn't really important. We have a shortage of opposition and unless we do something about it, the situation will not improve..... we need some FTs to run for opposition
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And there is one more thing i want to add,Singapore is a “Souless” country to foreigners and our citizens is also becoz our government over-emphasized the importance of “money”.No doubt money is important,but our PAP leaders treat it with a wrong attitude.
To our PAP leaders,money is everything.Money to them is more important than earning respect from their ppl,more important than their dignity,their soul,perhaps even their lives.They talk to us everything about money.They sucks money in every aspect of our daily lives.This turn them into a hated fuking misers instead of a respectable politicians.
My advice to them:Money is invented by human to put into good use,not to be used by money and become money-slaves.Money,like the rest of many things,is a double bladed sword.Treat it with a wrong attitude,it will not only hurt those around you,but also yourself.
Edited by drawer 21 Feb `08, 4:00PM
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Originally posted by Genie99a:
Who he admires isn't really important. We have a shortage of opposition and unless we do something about it, the situation will not improve..... we need some FTs to run for opposition
Who he admires is important! Since he despise our current government because they are lousy or wat etc etc etc then let me ask, can he do a better job? If he speaks of the government so badly, can he give a better solution? rather than just saying "I despise the PAP and LKY" or "PAP regime really has to go." comments, why don't he come up with his own opposition team and win the elections? Don't NATO, because it doesn't require a million dollar salary to have anyone to NATO.
If he is that good, I'm sure he can win the rigged elections rather than trying to be an internet CSJ.
There's a reason why the opposition is weak, it means they are no way better than the PAP. Sure they are severly in a disadvantage, but if they can't overcome such obstacles, can they handle even harder obstacles in the future? Are they ready to handle such a responsibility. While on the other hand, PAP has done a great job in securing its place. This is the way to go, safeguard your assets, secure your position. Would you want a government who loses its place easily to others? What if, in the global stage, can our oppositions protect our interests? Or do you want to change government just because you're sick and tired of PAP winning because you're jealous of them?
Edited by cloud210 21 Feb `08, 5:43PM
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Kim Jong Il, like the other truly first world dictators, have an inherently resolute platform to leverage on to barter and bargain against just about everyone else. This regime, on the other hand, has neither the courage nor incentive to establish a platform of isolation (hence, its infamous mantra of subscribing to the policy of diplomacy).
What you have in this deluded utopian wonderland is a despot-wannabe aspiring to the ambitions of Hitler with the courage of a mouse. Surely, you don't need a rocket scientist to figure the senile despot running this regime hasn't exactly sorted out his identity crisis, have you?
Then again, that probably explains why this regime has commenced on its nascent progress to establish bilateral ties with DPRK. Not like they'd ever come anywhere close to usurping the master though.
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Kim Jong Il is really a sly fox, the second he smelled that USA was planning to attack Iraq, he quickly engineered a nuclear crisis to bring USA to the bargaining table.
USA was too busy with Iraq and could not deal with DPRK at the same time, Kim Jong Il made use of this weakness to fuck with the USA.
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/12/23/191531.shtml
There is a lot of evidence that shows the intrigue of Kim Jong Il with USA, but I have no time to list down all of them here.
One example is enough, here is a report from the DPRK mouth piece The People's Korea on the meeting between Kim Jong Il and Koizumi in Sep 2002, the last paragraph gives a hint on what move DPRK will make against the USA:
Seoul, Tokyo and Moscow warmly welcomed Bush's decision to send to Pyongyang his envoy James Kelly, assistant secretary of state for East Asia, to resume high-level bilateral talks. Indications are that Pyongyang is ready to amaze Washington, and the world, too, in the near future as the DPRK's top leader did in June 2000 and September 2002, in order to put an ultimate end to the only remaining Cold War structure in Northeast Asia.
http://www1.korea-np.co.jp/pk/184th_issue/2002092801.htm
North Korea confirmed U.S. suspicions earlier this month during a high-level U.S. visit to Pyongyang, led by James Kelly, assistant secretary of state for Asian affairs.
The senior official said the revelation came in a meeting between Kelly and a top North Korean official, Kang Suk Ju, described as the equivalent of North Korean leader Kim Jong Il's right-hand man. These were the first such high level discussions between the two nations in two years.
The official said Kelly told Kang that the United States knew the country had a secret nuclear weapons program using "different technology" from that used prior to 1994, and that North Korea had saved enough plutonium for at least two nuclear weapons.
The North Korean official then shocked Kelly when he looked at him and said "something to the effect of, 'Your president called us a member of the axis of evil. ... Your troops are deployed on the Korean peninsula. ... Of course, we have a nuclear program,'" according to the senior administration source, who was briefed on the meeting.
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/10/16/us.nkorea/
I admire this old fox Kim Jong Il, he has the balls to fuck the USA.
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Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:
Kim Jong Il is really a sly fox, the second he smelled that USA was planning to attack Iraq, he quickly engineered a nuclear crisis to bring USA to the bargaining table.
USA was too busy with Iraq and could not deal with DPRK at the same time, Kim Jong Il made use of this weakness to fuck with the USA.
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/12/23/191531.shtml
There is a lot of evidence that shows the intrigue of Kim Jong Il with USA, but I have no time to list down all of them here.
One example is enough, here is a report from the DPRK mouth piece The People's Korea on the meeting between Kim Jong Il and Koizumi in Sep 2002, the last paragraph gives a hint on what move DPRK will make against the USA:
Seoul, Tokyo and Moscow warmly welcomed Bush's decision to send to Pyongyang his envoy James Kelly, assistant secretary of state for East Asia, to resume high-level bilateral talks. Indications are that Pyongyang is ready to amaze Washington, and the world, too, in the near future as the DPRK's top leader did in June 2000 and September 2002, in order to put an ultimate end to the only remaining Cold War structure in Northeast Asia.
http://www1.korea-np.co.jp/pk/184th_issue/2002092801.htm
North Korea confirmed U.S. suspicions earlier this month during a high-level U.S. visit to Pyongyang, led by James Kelly, assistant secretary of state for Asian affairs.
The senior official said the revelation came in a meeting between Kelly and a top North Korean official, Kang Suk Ju, described as the equivalent of North Korean leader Kim Jong Il's right-hand man. These were the first such high level discussions between the two nations in two years.
The official said Kelly told Kang that the United States knew the country had a secret nuclear weapons program using "different technology" from that used prior to 1994, and that North Korea had saved enough plutonium for at least two nuclear weapons.
The North Korean official then shocked Kelly when he looked at him and said "something to the effect of, 'Your president called us a member of the axis of evil. ... Your troops are deployed on the Korean peninsula. ... Of course, we have a nuclear program,'" according to the senior administration source, who was briefed on the meeting.
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/10/16/us.nkorea/
I admire this old fox Kim Jong Il, he has the balls to fuck the USA.
But he is screwing his citizens big time
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Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:
That's because he has nothing to lose to begin with. Which just about explains why the Americans are so keen to ensure Iran and Myanmmar (at various times during the current administration) are not isolated to the point where the latter are effectively no longer susceptible to international pressure. ;)
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Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:
Kim Jong Il is really a sly fox, the second he smelled that USA was planning to attack Iraq, he quickly engineered a nuclear crisis to bring USA to the bargaining table.
USA was too busy with Iraq and could not deal with DPRK at the same time, Kim Jong Il made use of this weakness to fuck with the USA.
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/12/23/191531.shtml
There is a lot of evidence that shows the intrigue of Kim Jong Il with USA, but I have no time to list down all of them here.
One example is enough, here is a report from the DPRK mouth piece The People's Korea on the meeting between Kim Jong Il and Koizumi in Sep 2002, the last paragraph gives a hint on what move DPRK will make against the USA:
Seoul, Tokyo and Moscow warmly welcomed Bush's decision to send to Pyongyang his envoy James Kelly, assistant secretary of state for East Asia, to resume high-level bilateral talks. Indications are that Pyongyang is ready to amaze Washington, and the world, too, in the near future as the DPRK's top leader did in June 2000 and September 2002, in order to put an ultimate end to the only remaining Cold War structure in Northeast Asia.
http://www1.korea-np.co.jp/pk/184th_issue/2002092801.htm
North Korea confirmed U.S. suspicions earlier this month during a high-level U.S. visit to Pyongyang, led by James Kelly, assistant secretary of state for Asian affairs.
The senior official said the revelation came in a meeting between Kelly and a top North Korean official, Kang Suk Ju, described as the equivalent of North Korean leader Kim Jong Il's right-hand man. These were the first such high level discussions between the two nations in two years.
The official said Kelly told Kang that the United States knew the country had a secret nuclear weapons program using "different technology" from that used prior to 1994, and that North Korea had saved enough plutonium for at least two nuclear weapons.
The North Korean official then shocked Kelly when he looked at him and said "something to the effect of, 'Your president called us a member of the axis of evil. ... Your troops are deployed on the Korean peninsula. ... Of course, we have a nuclear program,'" according to the senior administration source, who was briefed on the meeting.
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/10/16/us.nkorea/
I admire this old fox Kim Jong Il, he has the balls to fuck the USA.
good say..........but............what did he gain??
better life for his ppl? more food & rice for his ppl??
or rise his ppl income from US$120/yr to US$1200/yr???
by DARE to fuck ard wif USA.......
so say you mean he will be the better person to rule our country????
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Kim Jong Il rule Singapore?
Use propaganda to brainwash people?
Past down power from father to son?
One party state?
Hell no.
Society should be lively.
Society should be free.
Society should be creative.
Society should have an achieving outlook.
Not one party monopoly, regime based on propaganda and restriction of people's lives.
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Originally posted by TCH05:
You said the only way PAP solve problem is by using money.I am asking you, isnt it the same for other countries?
You fight the iraq war you need money.
You build dams you need money,
you build schools, you need money,
you provide subsidize healthcare you need money,
you build missle defence shield you need money,
you build roads you need money
you fight HIV, you need money
you flush our illegal immigrant you need money
doon like dat wan lah, TCH05.
doon say things so white lah.
when people start asking for better service, what happened in the end? price hike? no right? i no no.
where do you think funding will come from for the OLUMPAIC of the young young?
its such a tough question.
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Originally posted by cloud210:
Who he admires is important! Since he despise our current government because they are lousy or wat etc etc etc then let me ask, can he do a better job? If he speaks of the government so badly, can he give a better solution? rather than just saying "I despise the PAP and LKY" or "PAP regime really has to go." comments, why don't he come up with his own opposition team and win the elections? Don't NATO, because it doesn't require a million dollar salary to have anyone to NATO.
If he is that good, I'm sure he can win the rigged elections rather than trying to be an internet CSJ.
There's a reason why the opposition is weak, it means they are no way better than the PAP. Sure they are severly in a disadvantage, but if they can't overcome such obstacles, can they handle even harder obstacles in the future? Are they ready to handle such a responsibility. While on the other hand, PAP has done a great job in securing its place. This is the way to go, safeguard your assets, secure your position. Would you want a government who loses its place easily to others? What if, in the global stage, can our oppositions protect our interests? Or do you want to change government just because you're sick and tired of PAP winning because you're jealous of them?
Please enlighten us by quoting us examples of opposition is weak.
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