Reduce the load of pertrol in your vehicle replied by eagle @ Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:14:18 +0800

eagle — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:14:18 +0800

Originally posted by PRP:

Eagle,

The quote mechanism can't work, so no auto quote.

I think what the article mean is: When u see the red traffic light,u lift your right foot and transfer to the brake pedal.For mannual car,u will step on the clutch and then change the gear to free.

yup I knew what you were saying... I'm saying that your method would spoil your brakes and wear out your tyres faster because no engine brake was used...

Reduce the load of pertrol in your vehicle replied by caleb_chiang @ Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:00:34 +0800

caleb_chiang — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:00:34 +0800

Originally posted by PRP:

For the good of the environment,try to fill less pertrol to your car.Perhaps u can pump pertrol 3 days a week.The benefits are reduction of pertrol consumption,reduction of wear & tear to the tyres and other parts of the car and most importantly good for the protection of the enviroment.

Erm... i dun think pumping oil got anything to do with fuel consumption, rather... stepping on the accerlator... You sound like you never drove before...

Reduce the load of pertrol in your vehicle replied by PRP @ Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:53:27 +0800

PRP — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:53:27 +0800

Continuing from my last msg:

For auto gear cars,u can also switch to free gear too.

Reduce the load of pertrol in your vehicle replied by PRP @ Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:38:15 +0800

PRP — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:38:15 +0800

Eagle,

The quote mechanism can't work, so no auto quote.

I think what the article mean is: When u see the red traffic light,u lift your right foot and transfer to the brake pedal.For mannual car,u will step on the clutch and then change the gear to free.

Reduce the load of pertrol in your vehicle replied by mancha @ Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:42:39 +0800

mancha — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:42:39 +0800

The focus should be on reduction of fossil fuel consumption and its emmisions, easing of traffic congestion..

But transport policies are drafted by people who do not take buses, drive goods vehicles, ride motocycles, take taxis, drive buses, drive lorries, why they do not even ride bicycles. Their focus is on the motorcar. The Electronic Parking System is introduced for the convenience of the car drivers. To be fairer to car owners by charging parking by smaller blocks of time. For motorcycles it is 65 cents per entry vs one 65 cents coupon valid parking the whole day at any URA/HDB parking lot. Road infrastructure are made for motorist in mind, all others, riders and workers, benefit incidentally.

Transport policy makers are all car drivers.

Will they encourage motorcycles? To save the earth.

Nah! Their mothers forbid them to ride motocycles, bicycles even.

Reduce the load of pertrol in your vehicle replied by PRP @ Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:35:04 +0800

PRP — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:35:04 +0800

Some m/cyles are very noisy and the exhausting gas is very smelly.Don't know how they make it?

Reduce the load of pertrol in your vehicle replied by redDUST @ Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:44:12 +0800

redDUST — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:44:12 +0800

Originally posted by sgdiehard:

A pool of water on the road will also send a biker bed ridden for a long while. car drivers are protected by thin can, motorcycle riders are protected by their jacket and helmet. Problem is that most riders think they are armor plated and fly their bike like a plane.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p2sQAH2DTQ

from our mat bros in the north.

Reduce the load of pertrol in your vehicle replied by Love Supreme @ Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:21:32 +0800

Love Supreme — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:21:32 +0800

Originally posted by FirePig:

The fuel consumption rate for both 95 and 98 should be about the same. The chemical formula i think is similar but the structure is different and hence they are isomers of one another. The only difference it make is that more branched hydrocarbon can burn faster and hence faster acceleration. However, the performance of a 95 is already very good so a 98 dont make much of a difference even at acceleration. Only sports cars like evo, wrx need to use 98 and also only when you are those who like to do fast acceleration alot.

If you are running a turbo or supercharged car, you will need 98

Reduce the load of pertrol in your vehicle replied by eagle @ Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:06:22 +0800

eagle — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:06:22 +0800

Originally posted by sgdiehard:

A pool of water on the road will also send a biker bed ridden for a long while. car drivers are protected by thin can, motorcycle riders are protected by their jacket and helmet. Problem is that most riders think they are armor plated and fly their bike like a plane.

happened to my fren.... He was making a right turn, then went into a puddle of petrol on the road... Dunno why got petrol there also... then like that lose traction and fell

Reduce the load of pertrol in your vehicle replied by sgdiehard @ Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:00:23 +0800

sgdiehard — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:00:23 +0800

Originally posted by eagle:

no matter how safely you drive a motorcycle, it only takes an errant driver to send you to heaven.

A pool of water on the road will also send a biker bed ridden for a long while. car drivers are protected by thin can, motorcycle riders are protected by their jacket and helmet. Problem is that most riders think they are armor plated and fly their bike like a plane.

Reduce the load of pertrol in your vehicle replied by eagle @ Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:51:08 +0800

eagle — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:51:08 +0800

Originally posted by mancha:

Why the heavy emphasis on cars? Why are motorcycles not promoted, it is not even mention in passing, as a possible alternative.

Look into cars that passes by, how many people are in each of them.

Those who always drive solo, could easily turn to motorcycles for commuting.

There is no prestige in motorcycles or no $$$?

no matter how safely you drive a motorcycle, it only takes an errant driver to send you to heaven.

Reduce the load of pertrol in your vehicle replied by mancha @ Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:22:47 +0800

mancha — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:22:47 +0800

Why the heavy emphasis on cars? Why are motorcycles not promoted, it is not even mention in passing, as a possible alternative.

Look into cars that passes by, how many people are in each of them.

Those who always drive solo, could easily turn to motorcycles for commuting.

There is no prestige in motorcycles or no $$$?

Reduce the load of pertrol in your vehicle replied by eagle @ Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:58:56 +0800

eagle — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:58:56 +0800

Originally posted by PRP:

"When approaching red light,lift your foot off ....."

Is it OK to free the gear when approaching a red light?However, I often do that.

if you are using manual gear, you wear out your brakes faster this way as compared to making full use of engine brake (if braking)

I guess the article just means don't input extra energy into the system when you are going to bring it to a stop anyway... So in theory, free-ing the gear does have the same effect as just lifting your foot off the accelerator on oil consumption

Reduce the load of pertrol in your vehicle replied by BaByBoY @ Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:51:40 +0800

BaByBoY — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:51:40 +0800

i only pump in RESERVE TANK..

no point going over the cuzway w any pertrol at all....

get the max per trip.. best is i can just reach there zhun zhun no gas, and pump til brim.. SHIOK!

Reduce the load of pertrol in your vehicle replied by PRP @ Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:43:34 +0800

PRP — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:43:34 +0800

Originally posted by mancha:

Economy driving tips

The Straits Times, Saturday, March 15, 2008. Life Pg. 10

> Be as light on the accelerator as possible.
> Choose the appropriate gear. Even in an automatic, it is better to manually shift down than to kick down to accelerate.
> When approaching a red light, lift your foot off and get in gear for a gentle take-off once it turns green. Try to avoid coming to a full stop.
> Do not tailgate. You will find that you have to brake and re-accelerate less. •
> Be alert to road and traffic conditions. No point stepping on the gas and then stomping on the brakes because there is a jam ahead. Avoid talking on the phone, which distracts you from observing traffic conditions.
> Inflate your tyres regularly (when they are cold). You can overinflate by 5 to 10 per cent.
> Maintain your car regularly, and use good quality oil and filters. Keep car body clean, as
dirt increases drag.
> Turn off the air-con at night or on cool days and wind down the windows. The so-called "parachute effect" is minimal below lOOkmh.
> Do not use your car as a storeroom. Every 25kg of weight raises consumption by 1 per cent. Hence it might be best to fill the tank to half full instead of full.
> Plan your trips. Avoid congested roads.
> Do not leave the engine idling for more than a minute.
> Reverse into a parking lot. When you start off again, the engine will be cold and fuel inefficient. If you can drive away smoothly without having to reverse when the engine is cold, you will save fuel. It is also safer.
> Choose the right octane fuel. Most cars will do fine with 95- or 92-octane petrol.

"When approaching red light,lift your foot off ....."

Is it OK to free the gear when approaching a red light?However, I often do that.

Reduce the load of pertrol in your vehicle replied by eagle @ Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:17:28 +0800

eagle — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:17:28 +0800

Every 25kg of weitgjt raises consumption by 1%.Is there anyone know what the weight of half-tank of pertrol is?

Depends on your petrol tank... Let's say for a 1800cc car with 40 litres petrol tank (Toyota Corolla Altis)

http://www.simetric.co.uk/si_liquids.htm

Density of petrol is 737.22 kg per cubic metre, which works out to 0.73722g/cm3

half tank is 20 litres, which works out to 20000cm3, which works out to 14.744kg

For other cars, the petrol tank might be even smaller...

Thus, as already said in the first post of this page,

Some calculations will tell you that the difference between half a tank and a full tank (assume 40 litres tank) will, on average, only affect less than 1% of fuel consumption

Reduce the load of pertrol in your vehicle replied by PRP @ Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:28:48 +0800

PRP — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:28:48 +0800

Originally posted by mancha:

Economy driving tips

The Straits Times, Saturday, March 15, 2008. Life Pg. 10

> Be as light on the accelerator as possible.
> Choose the appropriate gear. Even in an automatic, it is better to manually shift down than to kick down to accelerate.
> When approaching a red light, lift your foot off and get in gear for a gentle take-off once it turns green. Try to avoid coming to a full stop.
> Do not tailgate. You will find that you have to brake and re-accelerate less. •
> Be alert to road and traffic conditions. No point stepping on the gas and then stomping on the brakes because there is a jam ahead. Avoid talking on the phone, which distracts you from observing traffic conditions.
> Inflate your tyres regularly (when they are cold). You can overinflate by 5 to 10 per cent.
> Maintain your car regularly, and use good quality oil and filters. Keep car body clean, as
dirt increases drag.
> Turn off the air-con at night or on cool days and wind down the windows. The so-called "parachute effect" is minimal below lOOkmh.
> Do not use your car as a storeroom. Every 25kg of weight raises consumption by 1 per cent. Hence it might be best to fill the tank to half full instead of full.
> Plan your trips. Avoid congested roads.
> Do not leave the engine idling for more than a minute.
> Reverse into a parking lot. When you start off again, the engine will be cold and fuel inefficient. If you can drive away smoothly without having to reverse when the engine is cold, you will save fuel. It is also safer.
> Choose the right octane fuel. Most cars will do fine with 95- or 92-octane petrol.

Every 25kg of weitgjt raises consumption by 1%.Is there anyone know what the weight of half-tank of pertrol is?

Reduce the load of pertrol in your vehicle replied by Genie99a @ Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:24:50 +0800

Genie99a — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:24:50 +0800

Originally posted by sgdiehard:

Your hypothetical calculation also wrong lah, "But I have got (99-70)/99 x $10 = $2.93 .... I have lost $7 bcos my parents bought a godam lease."

99 years lease is for 2 generations, if you can fully pay up in your lifetime, your son just need to pay the maintenance fee, what happen after that you think you can see from the grave huh?

Heya Buddy :)

Yar I'll agree that 99 year lease should last 2 generations.

But that means there is a depreciation factor lor Haiz

Reduce the load of pertrol in your vehicle replied by sgdiehard @ Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:08:02 +0800

sgdiehard — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:08:02 +0800

Originally posted by Genie99a:

I'm not sure if any of the HDB leases have expired and the lease taken back.

But if none has occured whats the point in maing it a 99 year lease then? ....why not make it freehold or 999?

Singapore how old only? HDB how long only? how can any 99 year lease expire?

Lease hold or freehold all Britist system, finally the land belong to the government. and at the expiry of the lease, the government has the right to take back. Usually places around same areas are same leasehold. Now mostly only 99 yrs cause government need redevelopment.

Farrer Court, Braddell Heights, and the other one along Alexandra Road, all were HUDC flats, 99 years only. Then sold en bloc, owners all laughing to the bank.

Your hypothetical calculation also wrong lah, "But I have got (99-70)/99 x $10 = $2.93 .... I have lost $7 bcos my parents bought a godam lease."

99 years lease is for 2 generations, if you can fully pay up in your lifetime, your son just need to pay the maintenance fee, what happen after that you think you can see from the grave huh?

Reduce the load of pertrol in your vehicle replied by Genie99a @ Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:19:31 +0800

Genie99a — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:19:31 +0800

Originally posted by redDUST:

LOL, you are (very) fond of hypothetical questions, aren't you? As seen in your other posts.....

Why not free petrol?

Why not subsidize all rice, petrol here in Singapore?

Why not give your money away?

Why, why, why....

(Wait...), I will give you half the answer. See below.

For a government so obsessed with control........

I do apologize for my hypothetical questions lol

However ...."For a government so obsessed with control...." That is fundamentally wrong to do. I'm not saying its illegal to do it... but I'm saying that's control gone out of control. I for one do not wish to be "forced" to this and that.

Reduce the load of pertrol in your vehicle replied by redDUST @ Mon, 07 Apr 2008 07:56:26 +0800

redDUST — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 07:56:26 +0800

Originally posted by Genie99a:

I'm not sure if any of the HDB leases have expired and the lease taken back.

But if none has occured whats the point in maing it a 99 year lease then? ....why not make it freehold or 999?

LOL, you are (very) fond of hypothetical questions, aren't you? As seen in your other posts.....

Why not free petrol?

Why not subsidize all rice, petrol here in Singapore?

Why not give your money away?

Why, why, why....

(Wait...), I will give you half the answer. See below.

For a government so obsessed with control........

Reduce the load of pertrol in your vehicle replied by Genie99a @ Mon, 07 Apr 2008 07:10:16 +0800

Genie99a — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 07:10:16 +0800

Originally posted by redDUST:

fair point, but the reality we are in is, has the government let any of the hdb lease lapse? property price swing aside; typically, at the 25-30 years level, the government will exercise its redevelopment program in these estates. look at toa payoh, queenstown, AMK or one of the older estates. I have not seen or read that the `owners' of these flats gotten back a fraction of what they paid for or left homeless because of the lease expiring. The government always acquire these flats back for redevelopment, apparently at market price. if your flats are 25-30 years old, chances are you will still make a tidy sum of the flats because if you purchase the flat new 30 years ago, it will probably cost a fraction of what you paid for.

there is also a political motive to this. PAP's will not let this be a political issue. when it made its commitment of home ownership to the majority of singaporeans in its early days. they will need to keep to this promise, by hook or by crook. this is a huge factor that could capitulate the PAP if they overlook the home ownership matter.

your illustration is a theoratical exercise. it makes sense in isolation but the reality is there are socio-political factors that comes into play that will alter the entire premise of what you said.

I'm not sure if any of the HDB leases have expired and the lease taken back.

But if none has occured whats the point in maing it a 99 year lease then? ....why not make it freehold or 999?

Reduce the load of pertrol in your vehicle replied by redDUST @ Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:06:53 +0800

redDUST — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:06:53 +0800

Originally posted by Genie99a:

I single Singapore out for only one reason the - 99 year lease.

Lets do some maths.

Lets say your parents own freehold worth $10.

My parents own HDB worth $10.

Our parents are enjoying themselves in heaven and in their will have left their properties to us.

Lets say they decided to enjoy themselves up there at age 70.

You have freehold of still $10 (lets not take into account of appreciation.)

But I have got (99-70)/99 x $10 = $2.93 .... I have lost $7 bcos my parents bought a godam lease.

Then buy freehold lor...... but can the avg Joe afford freehold?

So in other words .... 99 year lease holders.... you know what i mean lar.

fair point, but the reality we are in is, has the government let any of the hdb lease lapse? property price swing aside; typically, at the 25-30 years level, the government will exercise its redevelopment program in these estates. look at toa payoh, queenstown, AMK or one of the older estates. I have not seen or read that the `owners' of these flats gotten back a fraction of what they paid for or left homeless because of the lease expiring. The government always acquire these flats back for redevelopment, apparently at market price. if your flats are 25-30 years old, chances are you will still make a tidy sum of the flats because if you purchase the flat new 30 years ago, it will probably cost a fraction of what you paid for.

there is also a political motive to this. PAP's will not let this be a political issue. when it made its commitment of home ownership to the majority of singaporeans in its early days. they will need to keep to this promise, by hook or by crook. this is a huge factor that could capitulate the PAP if they overlook the home ownership matter.

your illustration is a theoratical exercise. it makes sense in isolation but the reality is there are socio-political factors that comes into play that will alter the entire premise of what you said.

Reduce the load of pertrol in your vehicle replied by Genie99a @ Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:45:38 +0800

Genie99a — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:45:38 +0800

Originally posted by eagle:

Seldom will people think that there's too much money. It's something inherent in most of us. The thing is, if you tax them to the point where the risks are no longer worth taking, they can easily just pack up and move to another country where the tax might be lower and the risks more worthwhile. The influence could be rather significant, and is especially so for the heavily foreign talent based Singapore. The balance is indeed delicate.

Yea i suppose so I mean i dunno how big the implications really are if the rich all left Singapore.

Yes balance is delicate .... meybe them million $ president scholars can come up with something.

Reduce the load of pertrol in your vehicle replied by Genie99a @ Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:42:24 +0800

Genie99a — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:42:24 +0800

Originally posted by redDUST:

thanks for clarifying.

there is the average joe who earns quite a fair bit (say up to S$6k/month) and the average joe who is really `average in his wages' (S$2-3k). the upper a-joe if he lives in a hdb flat, can let his CPF takes care of the repayment. technically, his disposable income is not affected as his CPF can take care of the payment, more so if mrs average joe chips in with the flat repayment. hence, he is left with his only other big ticket item, which is the car. in the singapore context, this average joe should be able to afford his car, i supposed an `average joe car like an altis'.

the rich getting richer is a conventional norm we accept as truth. maybe there is some truth in it. luckily, god is fair, things can go both ways. the rich, if they are not careful, can also be a pauper. just as the less-rich working their way up.

imo, the universal truth is 20% of the population probably control 80% of the wealth in a country, australia no exception. why single singapore out?

I single Singapore out for only one reason the - 99 year lease.

Lets do some maths.

Lets say your parents own freehold worth $10.

My parents own HDB worth $10.

Our parents are enjoying themselves in heaven and in their will have left their properties to us.

Lets say they decided to enjoy themselves up there at age 70.

You have freehold of still $10 (lets not take into account of appreciation.)

But I have got (99-70)/99 x $10 = $2.93 .... I have lost $7 bcos my parents bought a godam lease.

Then buy freehold lor...... but can the avg Joe afford freehold?

So in other words .... 99 year lease holders.... you know what i mean lar.

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