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      <title>PM Lee: &amp;quot;If we don't save, growth stops we be in trouble&amp;quot; replied by alwaysdisturbed @ Fri, 30 May 2008 01:25:42 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_from"&gt;Originally posted by january:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_body"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Well, hongkong is becoming a smoke city with its haze problems....
good luck...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;its already so hazy here.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 01:25:42 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>PM Lee: &amp;quot;If we don't save, growth stops we be in trouble&amp;quot; replied by january @ Fri, 30 May 2008 01:13:29 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;u all many are just conspiracies theorists.... all bersek
liao.... keep illusionizing how govt is slowly sucking our blood
like horror movie...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i think you all better be hollywood scriptwriters better.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 01:13:29 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>PM Lee: &amp;quot;If we don't save, growth stops we be in trouble&amp;quot; replied by january @ Fri, 30 May 2008 01:11:31 +0800</title>
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&lt;div class="quote_from"&gt;Originally posted by alwaysdisturbed:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_body"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
i'm going to perfect my cantonese.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Well, hongkong is becoming a smoke city with its haze problems....
good luck...&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 01:11:31 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>PM Lee: &amp;quot;If we don't save, growth stops we be in trouble&amp;quot; replied by maurizio13 @ Thu, 29 May 2008 08:35:29 +0800</title>
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&lt;div class="quote_from"&gt;Originally posted by charlize:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_body"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Hanor.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The moment the economy turns better, they reward themselves with
huge salary increases for themselves.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But sharing the fruits of the success by giving Singaporeans a
few hundred dollars each, they start complaining saying that
Singaporeans expect too much.&amp;nbsp; And by the way, they were the
ones who started this giving of money or restructuring shares or
what nots to Singaporeans.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Haiz. &lt;img src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt=
"icon_lol.gif" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I summarize to one word for you, it's called Hypocrites.&amp;nbsp;
&lt;img src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt=
"icon_lol.gif" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 08:35:29 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>PM Lee: &amp;quot;If we don't save, growth stops we be in trouble&amp;quot; replied by dragg @ Thu, 29 May 2008 07:25:11 +0800</title>
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&lt;div class="quote_from"&gt;Originally posted by cyberr1981:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_body"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Next month, we're getting our $200 "bonus" from the "surpluses"
&lt;img src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=
"icon_rolleyes.gif" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wonder how much money hongkiees are getting?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
they have welfare.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;$200 from "bonus"&amp;nbsp;but give back more over the years.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 07:25:11 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>PM Lee: &amp;quot;If we don't save, growth stops we be in trouble&amp;quot; replied by Watch It! @ Thu, 29 May 2008 05:59:13 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;What if? There is always more than meets the eye. However in a
Tardis, small on the outside, enormous on the inside.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 05:59:13 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>PM Lee: &amp;quot;If we don't save, growth stops we be in trouble&amp;quot; replied by kangyk @ Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:49:13 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;we should have a balance force and say in the policies making.
it is not good for one-sided policy whereas there is always bias in
the decision. the people will suffer in the end due to all the one
sided policies. henceforth, the recent Malaysia election has caught
the main policies holder off guard to the long and steamed up
feeling from the common people.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:49:13 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>PM Lee: &amp;quot;If we don't save, growth stops we be in trouble&amp;quot; replied by charlize @ Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:14:42 +0800</title>
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&lt;div class="quote_from"&gt;Originally posted by adetet:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_body"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And in the same breath, the PM also said that he is scared when
he hears talks of the government giving out hongbaos.&amp;nbsp; Funny,
when they decided to give themselves such a ridiculously exorbitant
pay increase, they were not scared!&amp;nbsp; We have to save, we have
to make sacrifices, we have to accept that we are now second class
citizens as the government favours foreigners over
citizens.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Hanor.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The moment the economy turns better, they reward themselves with
huge salary increases for themselves.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But sharing the fruits of the success by giving Singaporeans a
few hundred dollars each, they start complaining saying that
Singaporeans expect too much.&amp;nbsp; And by the way, they were the
ones who started this giving of money or restructuring shares or
what nots to Singaporeans.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Haiz. &lt;img src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt=
"icon_lol.gif" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:14:42 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>PM Lee: &amp;quot;If we don't save, growth stops we be in trouble&amp;quot; replied by adetet @ Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:16:19 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;And in the same breath, the PM also said that he is scared when
he hears talks of the government giving out hongbaos.&amp;nbsp; Funny,
when they decided to give themselves such a ridiculously exorbitant
pay increase, they were not scared!&amp;nbsp; We have to save, we have
to make sacrifices, we have to accept that we are now second class
citizens as the government favours foreigners over
citizens.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:16:19 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>PM Lee: &amp;quot;If we don't save, growth stops we be in trouble&amp;quot; replied by alwaysdisturbed @ Tue, 11 Mar 2008 04:17:01 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_from"&gt;Originally posted by maurizio13:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_body"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Their utilities offset for every household alone is HKD1,800.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
i'm going to perfect my cantonese.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 04:17:01 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>PM Lee: &amp;quot;If we don't save, growth stops we be in trouble&amp;quot; replied by maurizio13 @ Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:57:56 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_from"&gt;Originally posted by cyberr1981:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_body"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Next month, we're getting our $200 "bonus" from the "surpluses"
&lt;img src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=
"icon_rolleyes.gif" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wonder how much money hongkiees are getting?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Their utilities offset for every household alone is HKD1,800.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:57:56 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>PM Lee: &amp;quot;If we don't save, growth stops we be in trouble&amp;quot; replied by googoomuck @ Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:39:54 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Trouble? Tell LHL to shape up or ship out !&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:39:54 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>PM Lee: &amp;quot;If we don't save, growth stops we be in trouble&amp;quot; replied by cyberr1981 @ Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:58:56 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Next month, we're getting our $200 "bonus" from the "surpluses"
&lt;img src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=
"icon_rolleyes.gif" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wonder how much money hongkiees are getting?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:58:56 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>PM Lee: &amp;quot;If we don't save, growth stops we be in trouble&amp;quot; replied by Atobe @ Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:30:22 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is PM LHL justifying the reasons to take more of our money in
the foreseeable future, or is he justifying his reasons not to
spend away the huge amount of monies that he has
taken&amp;nbsp;consistently since he stepped into office ?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:30:22 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>PM Lee: &amp;quot;If we don't save, growth stops we be in trouble&amp;quot; replied by eagle @ Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:20:58 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;He is already prepared for failure.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Again, question is, are our reserves really that insufficient
for an efficient government to bring Singapore out of a bad
period?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And again, the deja vu of the NKF reserves saga.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:20:58 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>PM Lee: &amp;quot;If we don't save, growth stops we be in trouble&amp;quot; replied by qlqq9 @ Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:18:24 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;What trouble?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; No worries, we will gradually vote the
PAP out.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:18:24 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>PM Lee: &amp;quot;If we don't save, growth stops we be in trouble&amp;quot; replied by robertteh @ Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:31:48 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;This has been the PAP governing philosophy for the past 40 plus
years - come up with some fear-driven conceptual assumption that
welfare will kill us, no free lunch to allow government to keep
taxing and over-charging and under-providing services in order to
save or hoard monies to be thrown away on Shin Corp or UBS and then
give some excuses.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This kind of governing system is the most dangerous not taxing
less and allowing private sector to grow which is the surer way to
create jobs and vibrancy and competitiveness.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;MM Lee has been talking like this to give him all the power
because people cannot see through this kind of fallacies in his
assumption to tax more and spend less all the time to hoard
monies.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How is the private sector economy going to grow and stay
competitive if by this kind of assumption many businesses can no
longer grow and have to close down. Does he really understand
economy with this kind of fallacy or assumption that saving or
hoarding monies into government surpluses means more investments or
more jobs?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What he forgets or fails to prove is that precisely because of
this kind of narrow-minded assumption people and businesses are
being over-taxed with profiteering schemes of all kinds by all
government departments and GLCs resulting in rising business costs
and our economy today has largely lost its economic competitiveness
to compete with the outside world.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The earlier the government changes its policy of double charging
on lands and infrastructure as HDB/SLA are doing the earlier will
the people and private sector become competitive once again and we
will create more jobs lost previously due to such wrong assumption
in running of a country being adopted by his father for years
without check and balance.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If we want to compete with the like of Korea or HK we will have
to lower government over-taxing and cost-recovering charging so
that monies will go back to the private sector with more
opportunities to make monies for all and more motivation of all
citizens to work for the good of all.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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