PAP Leader Wong Kan Seng Escaped From Punishment replied by balance_else_complacent @ Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:56:36 +0800

balance_else_complacent — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:56:36 +0800

Originally posted by charlize:

We need to increase salaries to attract more responsible people.

Really.

ya lor. I agree

look at the kinds of talent we have attracted to the jobs! look at how competent they are ! look at their CEO top salaries of the world! Look at how TRANSPARENT they are to the public. Look at how ACCOUNTABLE they are ! look at how MERITOCRATIC they are !

increase some more will make them even more un-incompetent!

u belif me meh?

PAP Leader Wong Kan Seng Escaped From Punishment replied by T.Ryousuke @ Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:13:42 +0800

T.Ryousuke — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:13:42 +0800

Another talking point for next GE, and it's counting.

PAP Leader Wong Kan Seng Escaped From Punishment replied by charlize @ Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:10:12 +0800

charlize — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:10:12 +0800

We need to increase salaries to attract more responsible people.

Really.

PAP Leader Wong Kan Seng Escaped From Punishment replied by 00011000 @ Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:28:59 +0800

00011000 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:28:59 +0800

WKS appologised someone said, Where? implicitly? or Openly?

I think the keyword here is not punishment. I believe many are trying to say this but may not put it succinctly across, ie accountability and responsibility.

While the PAP is quick to point out the fault of opposition, quick to slap its people for any wrongdoing or mistake, it never acknowledges its mistake or shortcoming.

PAP Leader Wong Kan Seng Escaped From Punishment replied by Lin Yu @ Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:47:52 +0800

Lin Yu — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:47:52 +0800

that's the price you pay for monopoly

PAP Leader Wong Kan Seng Escaped From Punishment replied by balance_else_complacent @ Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:39:32 +0800

balance_else_complacent — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:39:32 +0800

people say they are receving CEO pays because they are that good.

CEOs get sacked all the time.

As I am a neutralist, I have no comments.

Meritocracy.

welcome to the real world.

u determine the status quo , someway or another.

u must hold responsibility.

based on justice and equality....words i live by.

oops, sorry, maybe i am in the wrong forum... ;)

PAP Leader Wong Kan Seng Escaped From Punishment replied by Uncle Ver SG @ Thu, 20 Mar 2008 03:01:36 +0800

Uncle Ver SG — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 03:01:36 +0800

WKS can take his golden handshake (big payout) and go into early retirement and that will shut him up. He is not young you know.

But no lah, he refuses. I think hes busy trying to recapture Mas Selemat (not).

PAP Leader Wong Kan Seng Escaped From Punishment replied by sir_peanuts @ Thu, 20 Mar 2008 02:00:49 +0800

sir_peanuts — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 02:00:49 +0800

if you really wanna punish WKS he would have been thrown to the wolves dunno how long ago, how can stay so long still be DPM.

definitely got something we dunno and won't know happening, so don't bother guessing. those stories about how he's related to lee family, or how he was the one who matchmade LHL with ho ching, they're plentiful.

PAP Leader Wong Kan Seng Escaped From Punishment replied by domonkassyu @ Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:13:50 +0800

domonkassyu — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:13:50 +0800

dan008...do u really knw how police works?many a times when the public call the police,usually, they are just time wasters..you expect the police to arrive within 10mins for a noise pollution case?the police have a PGO that states that they must arrive within half an hour for non emergency cases and 15mins for emergency cases..if only there isnt so many time wasters out there, the damn police can actually arrive much earlier..police have been complained just because they q up for food..the public never treat police and scdf as humans before.you said basic manners were void in police nowadays..have you considered wat kind of manners complainants have nowadays?? and that WKS hates spf..now that MKS has escaped..the police and the poor reservists are all on stand by so people like you can sleep peacefully at night.. i say cut the damn police some slacks...

PAP Leader Wong Kan Seng Escaped From Punishment replied by caleb_chiang @ Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:07:36 +0800

caleb_chiang — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:07:36 +0800

Wah... you guys sure that he escaped punishment? That would be a big story to tell how dark politics can be... or rather how SG is being ruled...

PAP Leader Wong Kan Seng Escaped From Punishment replied by deathbait @ Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:50:22 +0800

deathbait — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:50:22 +0800

cursing someone is not slander.

You cannot sue me for cursing you.

But if I were to accuse you of stealing money, and it turns out not to be true, that is slander and I am vulnerable to your lawsuit.

PAP Leader Wong Kan Seng Escaped From Punishment replied by 787180 @ Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:31:15 +0800

787180 — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:31:15 +0800

Just out of curiosity why everyone here so gungo dare to make insinuating remarks on PAP and the ministers,not afraid of being sued.They will sue U till bankrupt just like poor Chee or JB Jeyaratnam.There is one forum here “LKY when are U going to die?” someone remarked this forun is controlled by UK co not domiciled in S’pore so unlikley to be sued,is this true?

PAP Leader Wong Kan Seng Escaped From Punishment replied by Poh Ah Pak @ Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:36:13 +0800

Poh Ah Pak — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:36:13 +0800

Malaysiakini has woke up the people of Malaysia.

They are fully aware of political life in Malaysia now.

When will Singapore's turn come?

Feel so sad, still so many apathetic and blindly follow PAP propaganda.

They must really wake up.

PAP Leader Wong Kan Seng Escaped From Punishment replied by Uncle Ver SG @ Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:07:08 +0800

Uncle Ver SG — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:07:08 +0800

Sg forums no need to pay. Malaysiakini have to pay you know.

PAP Leader Wong Kan Seng Escaped From Punishment replied by qlqq9 @ Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:05:40 +0800

qlqq9 — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:05:40 +0800

Originally posted by Uncle Ver SG:

Talk is cheap lah. If got balls, set up Singaporekini lah. (Malaysiakini counterpart)

Talk is cheap, so don't come here and talk cheap lah.

PAP Leader Wong Kan Seng Escaped From Punishment replied by Uncle Ver SG @ Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:03:19 +0800

Uncle Ver SG — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:03:19 +0800

Talk is cheap lah. If got balls, set up Singaporekini lah. (Malaysiakini counterpart)

PAP Leader Wong Kan Seng Escaped From Punishment replied by Poh Ah Pak @ Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:57:44 +0800

Poh Ah Pak — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:57:44 +0800

these people have become frogs in the well.

Cannot be blamed.

Previously all they knew was only PAP propaganda.

Suddenly they realised how distorted, how narrow, how biased that propaganda is.

They see they are manipulated and controlled.

They realised they are ignorant.

It will take some time for them to adjust to reality from their sugar coated propaganda shit.

PAP Leader Wong Kan Seng Escaped From Punishment replied by qlqq9 @ Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:52:02 +0800

qlqq9 — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:52:02 +0800

Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:

If you read and watch media controlled by PAP you will never see and know the truth.

This is very true.

You will only get self-serving propaganda.

and there are people who read, watch and listen to PAP controlled media will turn against people who speak the truth, facts and reality about PAP. these people have become frogs in the well.

PAP Leader Wong Kan Seng Escaped From Punishment replied by Poh Ah Pak @ Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:46:51 +0800

Poh Ah Pak — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:46:51 +0800

If you read and watch media controlled by PAP you will never see and know the truth.

This is very true.

You will only get self-serving propaganda.

PAP Leader Wong Kan Seng Escaped From Punishment replied by qlqq9 @ Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:40:02 +0800

qlqq9 — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:40:02 +0800

Originally posted by t_a_s:

But LKY dont admit it. He sued the FT and awarded damages, seem that there is no nepotism. If what FT wrote is true facts, why it apologized?

Please upgrade yourself by reading more of reality and facts. If you read and watch media controlled by PAP you will never see and know the truth.

PAP Leader Wong Kan Seng Escaped From Punishment replied by t_a_s @ Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:37:06 +0800

t_a_s — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:37:06 +0800

But LKY dont admit it. He sued the FT and awarded damages, seem that there is no nepotism. If what FT wrote is true facts, why it apologized?

PAP Leader Wong Kan Seng Escaped From Punishment replied by qlqq9 @ Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:33:19 +0800

qlqq9 — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:33:19 +0800

Originally posted by t_a_s:

Yesterday I watched TV and Wks spoke . his english one piece one piece, why he can become minister. Put him in charge of economics, the whole country will turn up side down. Waste of money to employ him, million dollar some more, i think he is not worth $5k per month

Look at who back him up lah. His wife is the niece of Lky's wife, so now you see connection works.

PAP Leader Wong Kan Seng Escaped From Punishment replied by t_a_s @ Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:28:51 +0800

t_a_s — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:28:51 +0800

Yesterday I watched TV and Wks spoke . his english one piece one piece, why he can become minister. Put him in charge of economics, the whole country will turn up side down. Waste of money to employ him, million dollar some more, i think he is not worth $5k per month

PAP Leader Wong Kan Seng Escaped From Punishment replied by qlqq9 @ Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:18:57 +0800

qlqq9 — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:18:57 +0800

Originally posted by Meat Pao:

Im not sure he should indeed get punished, and so on. Besides, he has come up to apologize and taken a more active charge, I think it is something more than his duties or what is expected of him already. He is a minister after all.

The ones at fault, I think, are the guards, and maybe the detention center head/ chief.

I dont think a minister should be at fault for this.

To me, all this WKS talk, is a little bit different. Something else is hidden under the surface. I think people just use this Mas Salamat case as a tool to throw something at him, because they dont like the 'PAP', or the 'powerful ministers' in general. So it seem like a little superfluous, and a little forced.

Meat Pao.

YOu a running dog of PAP is no different from other PAP running dogs, talk the same. U a no brainer. Lackey, so how is WKS a little different?

PAP Leader Wong Kan Seng Escaped From Punishment replied by Short Ninja @ Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:07:13 +0800

Short Ninja — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:07:13 +0800

his name is already a life sentence some more what punishment you want?

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