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  • AndrewPKYap's Avatar
    13,921 posts since Oct '06
  • AndrewPKYap's Avatar
    13,921 posts since Oct '06
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      All the warnings that  thinking people give regarding the lack of opposition ( as a result of the lack of press freedom, persecution of opposition candidates (other than a few, for show) and the oppressive environment generally) resulting in the decline of the country will be ignored until it is staring everyone in the face...

       

       

  • eagle's Avatar
    18,012 posts since Aug '01
  • Chin Eng's Avatar
    5,245 posts since Nov '03
  • Melbournite's Avatar
    635 posts since Mar '08
  • eagle's Avatar
    18,012 posts since Aug '01
    • Actually govt saw it long ago.

      That's why must raise govt pay first

      Then when depression start coming liao, then claim

      Raising wages to address rising costs not a right solution

  • hloc's Avatar
    2,089 posts since Oct '06
    • Raising wages to address rising costs not a right solution

       

      Mmm.... let me see.

       

      Transport Company A rise the wage of all their Workers by $100, in hope of  addressing rising cost. But lets be honest here.... DO YOU THINK that Transport Company A won't rise their fares inorder to 're-coup' their staffs higher pay icon_question.gif So now everyone Beside those from Transport Company A will pay more for transportion around S'pore.......

       

      Food Stall B employ 10 workers..... who takes Transport Company A's Buses/Trains/Cab to work. Since Transport Company A rise their fares..... Food Stall B also rise the Wages of their workers by $100. And like Transport Company A, rise the price of their food. So now everyone Beside those from Food Stall B, food prices goes up for all.

       

      Service Provider C employ 1000 workers who take transport from A and eat at B. So their Boss being the 'kind' person that he is..... rise their pay by $100.... then do the same thing like A & B.

       

      Ok..... so now -

       

      Staff from A gots $100 - But pay more for B & C

      Staff from B gots $100 - But pay more for A & C

      Staff from C gots $100 - But pay more for A & B

       

      Hi.... we are back to square one..... Lets rise Wages again lor....

       

  • whiskers's Avatar
    581 posts since May '06
    • Originally posted by hloc:

       

      Mmm.... let me see.

       

      Transport Company A rise the wage of all their Workers by $100, in hope of  addressing rising cost. But lets be honest here.... DO YOU THINK that Transport Company A won't rise their fares inorder to 're-coup' their staffs higher pay icon_question.gif So now everyone Beside those from Transport Company A will pay more for transportion around S'pore.......

       

      Food Stall B employ 10 workers..... who takes Transport Company A's Buses/Trains/Cab to work. Since Transport Company A rise their fares..... Food Stall B also rise the Wages of their workers by $100. And like Transport Company A, rise the price of their food. So now everyone Beside those from Food Stall B, food prices goes up for all.

       

      Service Provider C employ 1000 workers who take transport from A and eat at B. So their Boss being the 'kind' person that he is..... rise their pay by $100.... then do the same thing like A & B.

       

      Ok..... so now -

       

      Staff from A gots $100 - But pay more for B & C

      Staff from B gots $100 - But pay more for A & C

      Staff from C gots $100 - But pay more for A & B

       

      Hi.... we are back to square one..... Lets rise Wages again lor....

       

      Staff D How?

      The way is to curb inflation, or at least control it, there are things the govnt can do...

  • hloc's Avatar
    2,089 posts since Oct '06
    • Originally posted by whiskers:

      Staff D How?

      The way is to curb inflation, or at least control it, there are things the govnt can do...

       

      Totally agree.....

       

      But I'm talkin about trying to solve the problem with rising of Wages..... in the long run, won't solve a thing. And when, lets said..... 2-3 years down the road and prices of food & oil has fallen (unlikely)..... would the worker now agree to 'cut' pay by $100 since everything is now back to normal icon_question.gif

       

      The answer would likely be - NO - then cost of doing business in S'pore will be too high for small family run businesses.... while MIC would likely head to cheaper area of SE Asia to setup factory....

       

      S'pore would likely end up with more retrenchment from factory closing down..... and small businesses will also find it harder to stay afloat.

       

       

  • whiskers's Avatar
    581 posts since May '06
    • Infact I agreed with u on the fact that raising wages is not a viable option.... What i was pointing out was, when wages are raised, they are not raised across the spectrum of workers, some workers might not get a raise. And to them this is double whammy.

      So this is one more reason raising wages might nt be a good idea...

       

      P/S Whoever say our ministers lack foresight?confused.png

       

  • hloc's Avatar
    2,089 posts since Oct '06
    • Originally posted by whiskers:

      Infact I agreed with u on the fact that raising wages is not a viable option.... What i was pointing out was, when wages are raised, they are not raised across the spectrum of workers, some workers might not get a raise. And to them this is double whammy.

      So this is one more reason raising wages might nt be a good idea...

       

      P/S Whoever say our ministers lack foresight?confused.png

       

       

      Only if you could get S'poreans to see it...... icon_neutral.gif

       

      Btw.... this is more of a common sense thing than any real 'foresight'..... icon_neutral.gif

  • Arapahoe's Avatar
    2,274 posts since Jan '07
    • ha ha ha you think 2009 will recovered or 2010? I think 2010 is a better projection.....where recovered effect will be felt. 2009 SG will still be in the hole.

  • Shotgun's Avatar
    6,254 posts since Jul '00
    • I saw it coming since the day oil crossed a hundred bucks a bucket.  Low inflation? Hehe... my "donkey."

       

  • Arapahoe's Avatar
    2,274 posts since Jan '07
  • AndrewPKYap's Avatar
    13,921 posts since Oct '06
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      Slowdown could stretch to 2009; Singaporeans should be prepared, says PM Lee

       02 May 2008
      Loh Chee Kong
      cheekong@mediacorp.com.sg
       
      IT WAS, by all accounts, a stellar first quarter economic performance by Singapore β€” job creation was at a high while flash growth estimates of 7.2 per cent beat expectations.
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      However, rather than set the stage for another year of expansion, the Prime Minister yesterday delivered the Government's most bearish outlook thus far.

       

       

      14 July 2008

      Lee Kuan Yew on Friday said Singapore's economy will be fine despite the slowing global economy.

      Speaking at a dialogue session at an essay competition awards presentation ceremony, Lee said, "Next five to 10 years will be the most promising years for Singapore...

       

       

      Believe the baby or the senile despot?

       

       

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