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      <title>One state solution for Israeli/Palestinian conflict? replied by Poh Ah Pak @ Sat, 17 May 2008 15:18:32 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;John Mearsheimer Eviscerates the 'Times' Review of
'1948'&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=
"http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/05/make-sure-you-r.html"
rel=
"nofollow"&gt;http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/05/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;As Israelis Celebrate Independence and Palestinians Mark
the &#8220;Nakba,&#8221; a Debate with Benny Morris, Saree Makdisi and Norman
Finkelstein&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=
"http://www.democracynow.org/2008/5/16/as_israelis_celebrate_independence_and_palestinians"
rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.democracynow.org/2008/5/16/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Israeli Writer-Activist Tikva Honig-Parnass, Who Fought
for Israel&#8217;s Founding in 1948, on 60 Years of Palestinian
Dispossession and Occupation&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=
"http://www.democracynow.org/2008/5/16/israeli_writer_activist_tikva_honig_parnass"
rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.democracynow.org/2008/5/16/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;As Palestinians Mark 60th Anniversary of Their
Dispossession, a Conversation with Palestinian Writer and Doctor
Ghada Karmi&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=
"http://www.democracynow.org/2008/5/15/as_palestinians_mark_60th_anniversary_of"
rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.democracynow.org/2008/5/15/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Israel and the Arab Coalition in 1948&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=
"http://users.ox.ac.uk/~ssfc0005/Israel%20and%20the%20Arab%20Coalition%20in%2019481.html"
rel="nofollow"&gt;http://users.ox.ac.uk/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 15:18:32 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>One state solution for Israeli/Palestinian conflict? replied by oxford mushroom @ Fri, 16 May 2008 20:33:24 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;This is a useless debate. The land will go to whoever has the
power. Joshua ordered the Israelites to wipe out the entire
population of Jericho, the first major city they conquered in the
West Bank. The Israelites were to kill everything that had breath,
from the baby in his mother's arms to the calf in the manger.
Israel was to drive away every single&amp;nbsp;inhabitant in the land
so that&amp;nbsp;the Israelites could occupy that&amp;nbsp;land (read
it...it's in the bible).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Israel could not drive away every single inhabitant or the land
nor kill everyone there. Neither can the Palestinians today drive
away the jews or kill every jewish child with their rockets or
suicide bombers. The current state of affairs will continue long
after we are all gone...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 20:33:24 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>One state solution for Israeli/Palestinian conflict? replied by Poh Ah Pak @ Thu, 15 May 2008 20:47:38 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;It would be good for Syria to unite with Iraq after USA
withdraws.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A bigger state can balance Iran.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 20:47:38 +0800</pubDate>
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      <author>Poh Ah Pak</author>
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      <title>One state solution for Israeli/Palestinian conflict? replied by googoomuck @ Thu, 15 May 2008 20:18:25 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Look look look...this is even better &lt;img src=
"/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/ccmathteam.com/biggrin.png" alt=
"biggrin.png" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&#8216;There is no such country as Palestine. &#8220;Palestine&#8221; is a
term the Zionists invented. [...]Our country was for centuries part
of Syria. &#8220;Palestine&#8221; is alien to us. It is the Zionists who
introduced it.&#8217;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Auni Bey Abdul-Had, Local Arab leader to British Peel
Commission, 1937&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 20:18:25 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>One state solution for Israeli/Palestinian conflict? replied by Poh Ah Pak @ Thu, 15 May 2008 13:35:08 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;h3&gt;&lt;a name="early" rel="nofollow" id="early"&gt;Early History of the
Region&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;h4 style="text-align: left;"&gt;Before the Hebrews first migrated
there around 1800 B.C., the land of Canaan was occupied by
Canaanites.&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&#8220;Between 3000 and 1100 B.C., Canaanite civilization
covered what is today Israel, the West Bank, Lebanon and much of
Syria and Jordan&lt;/strong&gt;...Those who remained in the Jerusalem
hills after the Romans expelled the Jews [in the second century
A.D.] were a potpourri: farmers and vineyard growers, pagans and
converts to Christianity, descendants of the Arabs, Persians,
Samaritans, Greeks and old Canaanite tribes.&#8221; &lt;em&gt;Marcia Kunstel
and Joseph Albright, &#8220;Their Promised Land.&#8221;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h4 style="text-align: left;"&gt;The present-day Palestinians&#8217;
ancestral heritage&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&#8220;But all these [different peoples who had come to Canaan] were
additions, sprigs grafted onto the parent tree...And that parent
tree was Canaanite...[The Arab invaders of the 7th century A.D.]
made Moslem converts of the natives, settled down as residents, and
intermarried with them, with the result that all are now so
completely Arabized that we cannot tell where the Canaanites leave
off and the Arabs begin.&#8221; &lt;em&gt;Illene Beatty, &#8220;Arab and Jew in the
Land of Canaan.&#8221;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h4 style="text-align: left;"&gt;The Jewish kingdoms were only one of
many periods in ancient Palestine&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&#8220;The extended kingdoms of David and Solomon, on which the
Zionists base their territorial demands, &lt;strong&gt;endured for only
about 73 years...Then it fell apart...&lt;/strong&gt;[Even] if we allow
independence to the entire life of the ancient Jewish kingdoms,
from David&#8217;s conquest of Canaan in 1000 B.C. to the wiping out of
Judah in 586 B.C., we arrive at [only] a 414 year Jewish rule.&#8221;
&lt;em&gt;Illene Beatty, &#8220;Arab and Jew in the Land of Canaan.&#8221;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h4 style="text-align: left;"&gt;More on Canaanite civilization&lt;/h4&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&#8220;&lt;strong&gt;Recent archeological digs have provided evidence that
Jerusalem was a big and fortified city already in 1800
BCE.&lt;/strong&gt;..Findings show that the sophisticated water system
heretofor attributed to the conquering Israelites pre-dated them by
eight centuries and was even more sophisticated than
imagined...&lt;strong&gt;Dr. Ronny Reich, who directed the excavation
along with Eli Shuikrun, said the entire system was built as a
single complex by Canaanites in the Middle Bronze Period, around
1800 BCE.&lt;/strong&gt;&#8221; &lt;em&gt;The Jewish Bulletin, July 31st,
1998&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=
"http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/origin.html#early" rel=
"nofollow"&gt;http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/origin.html#early&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=
"font-family: Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif; color: #062c0e; font-size: large;"&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Canaan&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://i-cias.com/e.o/canaan.htm" rel=
"nofollow"&gt;http://i-cias.com/e.o/canaan.htm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>One state solution for Israeli/Palestinian conflict? replied by domonkassyu @ Thu, 15 May 2008 13:20:51 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;it should be a 1 state nation namely israel.as for palestine..u
will understand by reading this.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;arafat and sharon were discussing peace talk.before they start,
sharon started with a story.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;during the time of the exodus.Moses went to have a bath and some
kids took his clothes away. when Moses had finish his bath, he was
furious to find his clothes missing and asked who were the
culprits. those nearby immediately said it was the palestines.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;to this arafat immediately states: "there was no palestines at
that time."&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>One state solution for Israeli/Palestinian conflict? replied by Short Ninja @ Wed, 14 May 2008 21:45:31 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;USA give billions of dollars to Israel annually so why not give
the same amount to the Palestinian Arabs for them to
develope&amp;nbsp;then take away the $$$ whenever they fight..Only when
they stop fighting for&amp;nbsp;a common&amp;nbsp;reason can they start to
become friends&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 21:45:31 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>One state solution for Israeli/Palestinian conflict? replied by googoomuck @ Wed, 14 May 2008 21:21:11 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_from"&gt;Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_body"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If Arafat an Egyptian, than Hitler must be Austrian.&lt;img src=
"/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/set1/wink.png" alt="wink.png" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It's historical fact &lt;img src=
"/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/ccmathteam.com/biggrin.png" alt=
"biggrin.png" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 21:21:11 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>One state solution for Israeli/Palestinian conflict? replied by Catknight @ Tue, 13 May 2008 18:12:58 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Return israel to christendom...end of the story&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 18:12:58 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>One state solution for Israeli/Palestinian conflict? replied by Poh Ah Pak @ Tue, 13 May 2008 14:13:05 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Israel is 60, Zionism is Dead, What Now?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=
"http://tonykaron.com/2008/05/08/israel-is-alive-zionism-is-dead-what-now/"
rel="nofollow"&gt;http://tonykaron.com/2008/05/08/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is time for Federal Republic of Israel and Palestine.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;20% of Israeli citizens are palestinians.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Palestine under Israeli occupation for over 40 years.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is time to end zionism.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 14:13:05 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>One state solution for Israeli/Palestinian conflict? replied by BadzMaro @ Tue, 13 May 2008 10:55:24 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;A state with buried nuclear devices ready to go off at any
moment's notice&amp;nbsp;should be drafted into the constitution when
they form that 1 state to force coercion and harmony through mutual
destruction of not just the state of Israel and Palestine , but the
whole of middle east.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 10:55:24 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>One state solution for Israeli/Palestinian conflict? replied by Miracles&amp;amp;Prophecies @ Tue, 13 May 2008 10:27:54 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;IMHO 1 state solution could spark a civil war in the
future...because the Palestinians are not going to give up their
Palestinian identity just like that. The same thing that the Jewish
population will not accept their Palestinians fellow citizens as
equal.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In an ideal world that would work but we don't live in an ideal
world.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What the Jewish and the Palestinian people need is a commmon
enemy LOL. That would surely forge their unity. A common enemy that
is so powerful and frightening that would threaten the very
existence of each of the faction i.e Jewish and Palestinians.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Any country want to play this role? LOL. They need a Hitler type
leader with hatred for both the Jews and Arabs.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They need ALIENS. The little wicked green biologic&amp;nbsp; with a
thrift to exterminate Jews and Arabs. And with the mind, technology
and firepower to do what it takes.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>One state solution for Israeli/Palestinian conflict? replied by ChiBet @ Tue, 13 May 2008 09:49:16 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;I prefer Hitler's "Final Solution" but SAF is a good buddy of
MOSSAD so I'll just keep quiet&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 09:49:16 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>One state solution for Israeli/Palestinian conflict? replied by Poh Ah Pak @ Mon, 12 May 2008 23:25:11 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;If Arafat an Egyptian, than Hitler must be Austrian.&lt;img src=
"/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/set1/wink.png" alt="wink.png" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>One state solution for Israeli/Palestinian conflict? replied by googoomuck @ Mon, 12 May 2008 22:16:00 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;I repeat, there's no such thing as Palestinians.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;An Arab &lt;strong&gt;Zahir Muhsein&lt;/strong&gt; has declared. &lt;img src=
"/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/ccmathteam.com/biggrin.png" alt=
"biggrin.png" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;....and Arafat was an Egyptian, never a 'Palestinian'.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>One state solution for Israeli/Palestinian conflict? replied by Poh Ah Pak @ Mon, 12 May 2008 21:19:04 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Zuhair Mohsen is perhaps most widely known in the West for
having made the following statement in a March 1977 interview with
the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands" title=
"Netherlands" rel="nofollow"&gt;Dutch&lt;/a&gt; newspaper &lt;a href=
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trouw" title="Trouw" rel=
"nofollow"&gt;Trouw&lt;/a&gt;&lt;sup class=""&gt;&lt;a href=
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuheir_Mohsen#cite_note-0" rel=
"nofollow"&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;dl&gt;
&lt;dd&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a
&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_state" class=""
title="Palestinian state" rel="nofollow"&gt;Palestinian state&lt;/a&gt; is
only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of
&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel" title="Israel" rel=
"nofollow"&gt;Israel&lt;/a&gt; for our &lt;a href=
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab" title="Arab" rel=
"nofollow"&gt;Arab&lt;/a&gt; unity. In reality today there is no difference
between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for
political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the
existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests
demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian
people" to oppose &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism"
title="Zionism" rel="nofollow"&gt;Zionism&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/dd&gt;
&lt;dd&gt;&lt;em&gt;For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state
with defined borders, cannot raise claims to &lt;a href=
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haifa" title="Haifa" rel=
"nofollow"&gt;Haifa&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffa" title="Jaffa" rel=
"nofollow"&gt;Jaffa&lt;/a&gt;, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly
demand Haifa, Jaffa, &lt;a href=
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer-Sheva" class="" title=
"Beer-Sheva" rel="nofollow"&gt;Beer-Sheva&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem" title="Jerusalem" rel=
"nofollow"&gt;Jerusalem&lt;/a&gt;. However, the moment we reclaim our right
to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite
Palestine and Jordan.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/dd&gt;
&lt;/dl&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While this &lt;strong&gt;contravened the PLO charter&lt;/strong&gt;, which
affirms the existence of a Palestinian people with national rights,
&lt;strong&gt;it was in line with al-Sa'iqa's Syrian-Ba'thist
ideology.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuheir_Mohsen" rel=
"nofollow"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuheir_Mohsen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Zahir Muhsein a follower of Baathist ideology?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;As-Sa'iqa's political agenda is identical to that of
Ba'thist Syria, i.e. &lt;a href=
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_socialist" class="" title=
"Arab socialist" rel="nofollow"&gt;Arab socialist&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_nationalist" class="" title=
"Arab nationalist" rel="nofollow"&gt;nationalist&lt;/a&gt; and strongly
committed to &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Arab" class=
"" title="Pan-Arab" rel="nofollow"&gt;Pan-Arab&lt;/a&gt; doctrine. While
this reflects its Ba'thist programme, it has also used Pan-Arabism
as a means of supporting the primacy of its sponsor, Syria, over
the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yassir_Arafat" class=""
title="Yassir Arafat" rel="nofollow"&gt;Arafat&lt;/a&gt;-led PLO's claim to
exclusive representation of the Palestinian people. &lt;strong&gt;Thus,
it rejected "Palestinization" of the conflict with &lt;a href=
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel" title="Israel" rel=
"nofollow"&gt;Israel&lt;/a&gt;, insisting on the necessary involvement of
the greater Arab nation. This occasionally went to extremes, with
as-Sa'iqa leaders denying the existence of a separate Palestinian
people within the wider &lt;a href=
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_world" title="Arab world" rel=
"nofollow"&gt;Arab nation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; (&lt;a href=
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuheir_Mohsen#Trouw_interview" title=
"Zuheir Mohsen" rel="nofollow"&gt;quote&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As-Sa%27iqa#Ideological_profile" rel=
"nofollow"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As-Sa%27iqa#Ideological_profile&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;h3&gt;&lt;span&gt;Al-Sa'iqa&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style=
"font-family: Arial,sans-serif; font-size: small;"&gt;(Arabic)
Literally means "The Storm." It is a "&lt;a href=
"http://www.mideastweb.org/Middle-East-Encyclopedia/co/Palestine.htm"
rel="nofollow"&gt;Palestinian&lt;/a&gt;" armed group created by Syrian
&lt;a href=
"http://www.mideastweb.org/Middle-East-Encyclopedia/Ba%27ath.htm"
rel="nofollow"&gt;Ba'ath&lt;/a&gt; party in 1966. It&lt;/span&gt; is a commando
group formed by (and mostly consisting of) Syrian Ba&#8216;thists
officially in Sept 1966. It became operational only in Dec 1968 to
rival &lt;a href=
"http://www.mideastweb.org/Middle-East-Encyclopedia/Fatah.htm" rel=
"nofollow"&gt;Fatah&lt;/a&gt; and to support &lt;a href=
"http://www.mideastweb.org/Middle-East-Encyclopedia/Salah-Jadid.htm"
rel="nofollow"&gt;Salah Jadid&lt;/a&gt; in his power struggle with &lt;a href=
"http://www.mideastweb.org/Middle-East-Encyclopedia/Hafez-Assad.htm"
rel="nofollow"&gt;Hafez Assad&lt;/a&gt; for &lt;a href=
"http://www.mideastweb.org/Middle-East-Encyclopedia/co/Syria.htm"
rel="nofollow"&gt;Syrian&lt;/a&gt; leadership. The original leadership
consisted of Yusuf Zu&#8217;ayyin, Mahmud al-Ma&#8216;ayta (from November
1970); but these were replaced with Assad loyalists after the Nov
70 coup. The pro-Jadid branch remained active in Jordan until Jun
71, when its were leaders arrested and Zuhayr Muhsin was appointed
Secretary General. It was an early supporter of the 'national
authority' proposal in 1974, and was a co-sponsor of the 1974
Palestine National Council Resolution.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;It is strictly &lt;a href=
"http://www.mideastweb.org/Middle-East-Encyclopedia/Pan-Arabism.htm"
rel="nofollow"&gt;Pan-Arabist&lt;/a&gt;, denying a &lt;a href=
"http://www.mideastweb.org/Middle-East-Encyclopedia/co/Palestine.htm"
rel="nofollow"&gt;Palestinian&lt;/a&gt; identity except as a tactical
maneuver...&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=
"http://www.mideastweb.org/Middle-East-Encyclopedia/al-sa'iqa.htm"
rel=
"nofollow"&gt;http://www.mideastweb.org/Middle-East-Encyclopedia/al-sa'iqa.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;googoomuck, you a follower of As-Sa'iqa movement?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>One state solution for Israeli/Palestinian conflict? replied by googoomuck @ Mon, 12 May 2008 21:14:07 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_from"&gt;Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_body"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If Palestinians is a myth, shouldn't someone inform the
palestinians about it?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They call themselves palestinians.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Way back on March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper Trouw published
an interview with &lt;strong&gt;Palestine Liberation Organization
executive committee member Zahir Muhsein&lt;/strong&gt;. Here's what he
said:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a
Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle
against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today
there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians
and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak
today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab
national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct
"Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state
with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while
as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva
and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of
Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and
Jordan.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>One state solution for Israeli/Palestinian conflict? replied by Poh Ah Pak @ Mon, 12 May 2008 21:10:35 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;If Palestinians is a myth, shouldn't someone inform the
palestinians about it?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They call themselves palestinians.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 21:10:35 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>One state solution for Israeli/Palestinian conflict? replied by googoomuck @ Mon, 12 May 2008 21:04:22 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_from"&gt;Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_body"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Forget the two-state solution&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;em&gt;Israelis and Palestinians must share the land.
Equally.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By Saree Makdisi&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=
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&lt;p&gt;I support Israeli occupied territories of Palestine incorporated
into state of Israel to form Federal Republic of Israel and
Palestine.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think that is a fair political arrangement to resolve the
issue.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Fact: 20% of Israeli citizens are palestinians.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So why not one state solution?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=
"http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3246096,00.html" rel=
"nofollow"&gt;http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3246096,00.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If Jews afraid that Palestinians will flood their jewish cities,
they can have an arrangement to restrict arabs to only Palestinian
area of the federal republic.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There's no such a thing as Palestinians. Arabs, you mean?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>One state solution for Israeli/Palestinian conflict? replied by Poh Ah Pak @ Mon, 12 May 2008 13:31:45 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Forget the two-state solution&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div class=""&gt;&lt;em&gt;Israelis and Palestinians must share the land.
Equally.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=""&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By Saree Makdisi&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=
"http://fairuse.100webcustomers.com/itsonlyfair/latimes0284.html"
rel=
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&lt;p&gt;I support Israeli occupied territories of Palestine incorporated
into state of Israel to form Federal Republic of Israel and
Palestine.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think that is a fair political arrangement to resolve the
issue.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Fact: 20% of Israeli citizens are palestinians.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So why not one state solution?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=
"http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3246096,00.html" rel=
"nofollow"&gt;http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3246096,00.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If Jews afraid that Palestinians will flood their jewish cities,
they can have an arrangement to restrict arabs to only Palestinian
area of the federal republic.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>One state solution for Israeli/Palestinian conflict? replied by 16/f/lonely @ Fri, 09 May 2008 22:28:41 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Possible.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Already Israeli Arab population number 20% and rising.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In fact, it is more realistic.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>One state solution for Israeli/Palestinian conflict? replied by rokkie @ Fri, 09 May 2008 22:24:03 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;why stick together ,just seperate lah&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 22:24:03 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>One state solution for Israeli/Palestinian conflict? replied by googoomuck @ Fri, 09 May 2008 22:18:15 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;That's ridiculous !&lt;img src=
"/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/ccmathteam.com/biggrin.png" alt=
"biggrin.png" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>One state solution for Israeli/Palestinian conflict? replied by noob321 @ Fri, 09 May 2008 18:43:17 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;very difficult, because of religion&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>One state solution for Israeli/Palestinian conflict? replied by Poh Ah Pak @ Fri, 09 May 2008 18:24:05 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;h1&gt;For some Palestinians, one state with Israel is better than
none&lt;/h1&gt;
&lt;div class=""&gt;&lt;em&gt;Frustrated by years of failed peace talks for a
two-state solution, some are giving up hope of independence and
pushing the idea of a single democratic state with equal rights for
all.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class=""&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By Richard Boudreaux and Ashraf Khalil&lt;br /&gt;
Los Angeles Times Staff Writers&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
May 8, 2008&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
JERUSALEM &#8212; Frustrated by years of on-and-off peace talks with
Israel, Palestinians are losing hope for an independent homeland,
and some are proposing a radically different cause: a shared state
with equal rights for Palestinians and Jews.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A "two-state solution" has been the basis for Israeli-Palestinian
negotiations for nearly 15 years and remains the declared aim of
both groups' highest elected leaders and the Bush administration.
But its advocates are increasingly on the defensive, and not just
against militant Islamists and Jewish settlers who have long
opposed partitioning the land.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Majorities on both sides dismiss the current U.S.-backed peace
talks as futile. And a small but growing number of moderate
Palestinians contend that Israel's terms for independence offer
less than they could gain in a single democratic state combining
Israel, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As a result, the 60th anniversary this month of Israel's birth is a
time of insecurity and flux. Conventional wisdom about the
long-standing formula for peace is being turned on its head.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No Israeli leader accepts the idea of sharing power with
Palestinians; nor has such a plan been offered to the Israeli
government. But a collapse of the two-state effort would leave
Israel in de facto control of a region where by the next
generation, Jews probably will be a minority.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That scenario inspires Hazem Kawasmi, who recently gave up on the
two-state ideal and runs brainstorming workshops in the West Bank
on single-state proposals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sooner or later, the former Palestinian Authority official
predicts, the growing burden of occupation and threat of Islamic
extremism will make Israelis receptive to the idea of a bi-national
system that protects the rights of Jews.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
"Israel cannot be a dominating power forever," Kawasmi, 43, said
between puffs on a water pipe in a cafe in Ramallah, the West
Bank's administrative center. "Time is on our side."&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Israel captured the West Bank and Gaza in the 1967 Middle East War,
but efforts to incorporate the territories by encouraging massive
Jewish settlements fell short. It took a generation after the war
for Israeli and secular Palestinian leaders to recognize each other
and start discussing statehood for the occupied territories.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Palestinians' rethinking of that goal has been influenced by
Hamas' ascendancy. Its rise has unnerved moderate Palestinians who
don't want to be ruled by the militant Islamic group and made many
in Israel, which Hamas refuses to formally recognize, more averse
to a two-state accord.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The near-daily rocket attacks from Hamas-controlled Gaza have
turned Israel's defense minister into a powerful critic of a peace
process he once led.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, struggling to propel
peace talks between Israel and the Palestinian Authority led by the
secular Fatah movement, warned last week that the lack of progress
was causing younger Palestinians to give up on the goal of an
independent state.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
"Increasingly, the Palestinians who talk about a two-state solution
are my age," said Rice, who is 53.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The U.S. revived the peace talks in November with the aim of an
accord by the end of President Bush's term, but disillusionment set
in quickly. &lt;a href="http://www.huji.ac.il/huji/eng/" rel=
"nofollow"&gt;Hebrew University&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a href=
"http://www.pcpsr.org/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Palestine Center for Policy
and Survey Research&lt;/a&gt; reported that three-fourths of the
Palestinians and just over half the Israelis they polled in March
said the talks serve no purpose and should be halted. Other polls
show that at least one-fourth of Palestinians favor a single
state.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
"The number of people who believe in two states for two peoples is
decreasing, and that worries me," said Yasser Abed-Rabbo, a
Palestinian official involved in the talks. "And I'm talking about
a circle of rational intellectuals, people with an open mind. On
the street, the two-state idea has become a joke."&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fatah's leadership has begun a quiet, informal debate of its
options if talks for an independent state fail.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The emergence of one-state proposals, said Kadura Fares, a member
of Fatah's revolutionary council, are "a sign that the current
strategy has been exhausted and it's time to rethink all our
goals."&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Ali Jarbawi, an independent West Bank political scientist who
advises the Palestinian leadership, has urged Palestinian Authority
President Mahmoud Abbas to resign and abolish the government, which
would oblige Israel to take direct responsibility for managing the
West Bank and Gaza and paying public employees.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
"I would say, 'Be my guest. Continue your occupation. But we're
going to declare this is all one state and ask for equal rights.
Are you going to be able to keep us under control for another 40
years?' " Jarbawi said.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert cited just such a scenario last
year to make the case for shedding the territories quickly, while
the Palestinians still have leaders who want their own state.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Israel, he warned, faces a demographic threat. There are 5.7
million Jews and 1.4 million Arab citizens in Israel and its West
Bank settlements, according to Israel's Central Bureau of
Statistics; the bureau's Palestinian counterpart tallies nearly 3.8
million Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
By 2025, Israeli demographer Sergio Della Pergola predicts, Jews
will make up no more than 46% of the people living between the
Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, an area slightly smaller
than Maryland.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Rid of the territories, Olmert told reporters in November, Israel
would have a sustainable Jewish majority within its borders,
enabling it to preserve its Jewish character within a
democracy.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
"If the day comes when the two-state solution collapses and we face
a South African-style struggle for equal voting rights, the state
of Israel is finished," he said.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But resistance to a two-state accord has risen not only from
right-wing allies of Olmert who support continued Jewish settlement
in the West Bank but also from Ehud Barak, who leads the dovish
Labor Party.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As prime minister in 2000, Barak made Israel's first concrete offer
of a Palestinian state. (Yasser Arafat rejected his terms.) Now
defense minister, Barak has privately dismissed the current talks
as "a fantasy."&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Until Israel upgrades its missile defenses, which could take
several years, Barak says, he favors keeping troops in the West
Bank and continuing frequent incursions into Gaza. Israel withdrew
its army bases and civilian settlements from Gaza in 2005.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Many Palestinians take Barak's shift as a sign that independence is
unattainable.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Kawasmi, the former Palestinian Authority official, said his moment
of disenchantment came last year in June during an encounter with
Israeli peace activists at an unofficial Middle East forum in
Italy.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Jerusalem native had been campaigning 15 years for an
independent Palestinian state. The dream had brought him home from
studies in England in 1994 to help the newly created Palestinian
Authority set up a ministry of economy.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But the Israeli peaceniks dismissed two cherished Palestinian
aspirations. Like Olmert's government, they wanted to avoid talk of
giving Palestinian refugees and their families the right of return
to homes in Israel that they fled in 1948 or of sharing Jerusalem
as capital of both Israel and a Palestinian state.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At that moment, Kawasmi said, he realized "there is zero chance"
for a two-state solution. He didn't sleep well for months. Then he
embraced the single-state option, which had been debated for
several years among Palestinians living abroad, and set out to
create a buzz for it in the territories.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Several dozen intellectuals and activists are engaged in the
debate, in books, newspaper articles, seminars and discussions on
such websites as &lt;a href="http://electronicintifada.net/" rel=
"nofollow"&gt;Electronic Intifada.&lt;/a&gt; Some call for a power-sharing
government, others for a federation with separate administrations
for Palestinians and Jews.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sari Nusseibeh, president of Al Quds University in Jerusalem,
suggests that many Palestinians would feel more at home in a
democracy shared with Israelis than in a Palestinian state run by
Hamas.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A bi-national system, Nusseibeh said, would "need to come about by
consent and not by force; it will need a complete new strategy and
thinking."&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Perhaps after decades of fruitless bloodshed, he said, "we might
find ourselves having no option but to coexist within one
state."&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A single state, other proponents say, would resolve disputes that
have long bedeviled peace talks. Jews could keep their settlements,
the thinking goes, but Palestinians, now restricted to a
disproportionately small area, could live and travel anywhere the
country. So could returning Palestinian refugees.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Most Israelis dismiss single-state proposals as recipes for
dystopia or tactics in a Hamas-guided scheme to overrun the Jews
and impose Islamic rule.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
"Such an idea of one country with two peoples, it will never
happen," said Benjamin Ben-Eliezer, the infrastructure minister.
"Bloodshed will happen. The Arabs will not accept us. We will not
accept them."&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But Palestinians who favor the idea say they would have no problem
living with Jews as equals. If Jews were to give up their superior
status and allow Palestinians the right to vote and move about the
country, they say, Islamic extremists would lose their
appeal.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
"I'm envisioning a state where Jewish, Muslim and Christian
communities live equally with full rights," Kawasmi said. If
Israelis cannot accept that, "it's up to them to face an Islamic
power that will not accept them."&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It might be months or years, he acknowledges, before Palestinian
leaders embrace the single-state vision and another generation
before Israelis take it seriously. He plans to spend the year
hammering out a detailed proposal and getting it launched by a
political party, even if he has to start one himself.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Israelis, meanwhile, are weighing the choices that will shape the
country's seventh decade if the two-state talks fail: Israel could
declare that the wall it has built along the length of the West
Bank is now a border and retreat behind it, unilaterally defining
an Israel with a Jewish majority but exposing itself to rocket
fire. Or it could try to prevent the attacks by occupying the
territory more thoroughly, and re-occupying Gaza, with the risks of
long-term fatigue and international condemnation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Either option could mean years of conflict, an outlook that weighs
on Israel as it celebrates 60 years of national rebirth and
achievement.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Meron Benvenisti, a historian and former deputy mayor of Jerusalem,
is one of the few prominent Israelis who see a way out by sharing a
state with the Palestinians.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
He has proposed that Israeli Jews start debating the shape of such
a state. They could best protect Israel's gains and the haven of a
Jewish homeland, he suggests, by opting for a federal system with
autonomous administrations for Jews and Palestinians.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
"Israelis and Palestinians are sinking together into the mud of
'one state,' " he writes. "We need a model that fits this reality.
. . . The question is no longer whether it will be bi-national, but
which model to choose."&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;A Federal Republic of Israel and Palestine?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I support it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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