Sg males lagging behind in education standards due to Ns? replied by purpledragon84 @ Sat, 17 May 2008 01:49:24 +0800

purpledragon84 — Sat, 17 May 2008 01:49:24 +0800

Originally posted by eagle:

like that say, might as well right from the start don't do -.-"

talking about hungry lion, I feel hungry now :(

aiyah.. young that time the parents will tell the child he/she is not going to make it big meh? but ltr in life they find out themselves not everyone can drive a bmw.. a scania will be their lifelong transport, at best is toyota crown or mercedes..

and im tired.. continue tmr.. lol..

Sg males lagging behind in education standards due to Ns? replied by bryanw @ Sat, 17 May 2008 01:49:19 +0800

bryanw — Sat, 17 May 2008 01:49:19 +0800

Originally posted by eagle:

like that say, might as well right from the start don't do -.-"

talking about hungry lion, I feel hungry now :(

now is sleeping time. eat now very hard 2 sleep later.

Sg males lagging behind in education standards due to Ns? replied by eagle @ Sat, 17 May 2008 01:44:35 +0800

eagle — Sat, 17 May 2008 01:44:35 +0800

Originally posted by purpledragon84:

hmm.. i say liao.. some ppl can do until damn good one.. but wun get far one.. u can run from the lion in a car, one day the lion will still reach u..

like that say, might as well right from the start don't do -.-"

talking about hungry lion, I feel hungry now :(

Sg males lagging behind in education standards due to Ns? replied by purpledragon84 @ Sat, 17 May 2008 01:37:45 +0800

purpledragon84 — Sat, 17 May 2008 01:37:45 +0800

hmm.. i say liao.. some ppl can do until damn good one.. but wun get far one.. u can run from the lion in a car, one day the lion will still reach u..

Sg males lagging behind in education standards due to Ns? replied by eagle @ Sat, 17 May 2008 01:34:36 +0800

eagle — Sat, 17 May 2008 01:34:36 +0800

Originally posted by purpledragon84:

Fact is, outside the 3 unis, finances become a problem for poor families planning to support a child's uni education..

and u should know the drill by now.. not everybody who works hard gets to the end.. some do, some don't.. those that do, good, they can be the examples.. those who cant, die trying..

not everybody who works hard gets to the end.. some do, some don't

Doing sufficiently well isn't about talent at all. It's about consistency and hard work with the right mindset and strategies.

Working hard with the wrong tools will never get you far. Eg, you run away from a hungry lion using your hands instead of using your legs.

Sg males lagging behind in education standards due to Ns? replied by purpledragon84 @ Sat, 17 May 2008 01:31:41 +0800

purpledragon84 — Sat, 17 May 2008 01:31:41 +0800

Originally posted by balance_else_complacent:

Why the Swiss do 6 months and the PORE do 2 years and last timers do 2.5 years?

Any Gazelle types like to reply?

because different countries?

Sg males lagging behind in education standards due to Ns? replied by balance_else_complacent @ Sat, 17 May 2008 01:28:14 +0800

balance_else_complacent — Sat, 17 May 2008 01:28:14 +0800

Originally posted by jojobeach:

The Swiss do 6 months national service , enough for them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_Switzerland

But Singaporean males are not so smart.. so I think 1 year is just nice.

Why the Swiss do 6 months and the PORE do 2 years and last timers do 2.5 years?

Any Gazelle types like to reply?

Sg males lagging behind in education standards due to Ns? replied by purpledragon84 @ Sat, 17 May 2008 01:26:58 +0800

purpledragon84 — Sat, 17 May 2008 01:26:58 +0800

Fact is, outside the 3 unis, finances become a problem for poor families planning to support a child's uni education..

and u should know the drill by now.. not everybody who works hard gets to the end.. some do, some don't.. those that do, good, they can be the examples.. those who cant, die trying..

Sg males lagging behind in education standards due to Ns? replied by eagle @ Sat, 17 May 2008 01:14:35 +0800

eagle — Sat, 17 May 2008 01:14:35 +0800

I have tuition students who no matter how they studied, they couldn't score. But after I tuitioned them, they can improve to ranging from B3s to A1s for Os within half a year. These improvements are then considered tried hard enough. It is all about studying methods; one can easily pick this up from the better students. Isn't that how one is supposed to improve? You emulate the best.

Then how about my ex-ITE friend? You think he got good grades last time? He seriously worked hard for what he has today.

Even if you quit uni... I have one friend who did badly for year 1 engineering, and quitted => in 2004/2005 year. Last I heard about half a year ago, he had written a computer software which has the capability of tagging videos, then sold it first to one company where he continued to develop it, then to another company, making him a millionaire (without a degree). He has sinced married and moved to Australia to stay.

Fact is, when there's a will, there's definitely a way for realistic goals. Doing sufficiently well isn't about talent at all. It's about consistency and hard work with the right mindset and strategies.

Sg males lagging behind in education standards due to Ns? replied by purpledragon84 @ Sat, 17 May 2008 01:04:40 +0800

purpledragon84 — Sat, 17 May 2008 01:04:40 +0800

sometimes ah.. not say fault fault fault one la.. some ppl can study, some ppl cannot study.. but cant study, oso want to study, but cant get good grades, u think they nvr try hard enuf?

and there's those, not say they slack and play and eng eng cheng cheng den fail to get in.. they study, learn, do swee swee, get nice results, but too many students, too little slots, surely u know 3 universities oso cannot contain all good students.. some with decent grades oso kena byebye..

Sg males lagging behind in education standards due to Ns? replied by eagle @ Sat, 17 May 2008 00:58:40 +0800

eagle — Sat, 17 May 2008 00:58:40 +0800

Originally posted by purpledragon84:

i mean sim, psb academy and etc..

and u can easily see that sometimes u cant go to the one u can best afford.. there are ppl who can afford the 3 unis becoz they have cpf, but they cant get in, and they dun have money..

Again, whose fault is it if they can't get in? There are things in life which once missed, cannot be repeated.

And if my friend who went ITE (where most pple think they are doomed), can progress to poly and finally end up at NUS, why not others? The best part of the story which he told me was, when he was at Dover ITE, he told his classmates that he will be a student in the school opposite (NUS). They all laughed at him. See where he is now.

Sg males lagging behind in education standards due to Ns? replied by purpledragon84 @ Sat, 17 May 2008 00:15:58 +0800

purpledragon84 — Sat, 17 May 2008 00:15:58 +0800

i mean sim, psb academy and etc..

and u can easily see that sometimes u cant go to the one u can best afford.. there are ppl who can afford the 3 unis becoz they have cpf, but they cant get in, and they dun have money..

Sg males lagging behind in education standards due to Ns? replied by youyayu @ Sat, 17 May 2008 00:15:28 +0800

youyayu — Sat, 17 May 2008 00:15:28 +0800

just run to other country and study.. wad can they do.... when u get ur cert then get ur ass back to the country and serve....

Sg males lagging behind in education standards due to Ns? replied by eagle @ Sat, 17 May 2008 00:10:02 +0800

eagle — Sat, 17 May 2008 00:10:02 +0800

Originally posted by purpledragon84:

try not going to nus/ntu/smu..

isn't it a duh that you should go to the one that you can best afford?

kay kiang go overseas uni for what if cannot afford?

Sg males lagging behind in education standards due to Ns? replied by Chelzea @ Fri, 16 May 2008 23:48:34 +0800

Chelzea — Fri, 16 May 2008 23:48:34 +0800

aiyah, they shld allow capable male sporeans to complete pri sch in 5 yrs n sec sch in 3 yrs.

think dat 10 yrs u spend in pri n sec sch is excessive. can complete in 8yrs for most peeps

Sg males lagging behind in education standards due to Ns? replied by purpledragon84 @ Fri, 16 May 2008 23:45:05 +0800

purpledragon84 — Fri, 16 May 2008 23:45:05 +0800

Originally posted by eagle:

http://www.cpf.gov.sg/cpf_info/publication/educatn.asp#q10

Yes, a guarantor is required and he must:

be a Singapore citizen or permanent resident;

be gainfully employed with a monthly income of at least $500;

be between 21 and 60 years old; and

not be an undischarged bankrupt

Or for bank loan

http://www.ntu.edu.sg/admissions/financialassistance/tuitionfee/tuition+fee+loan.htm

One guarantor above 21 years but below 60 years is required.

·      There is no income qualification.

·      Singaporean students to provide Singaporean guarantors.

·      Non-Singaporean guarantors are acceptable for SPR and foreign students

try not going to nus/ntu/smu..

Sg males lagging behind in education standards due to Ns? replied by redDUST @ Fri, 16 May 2008 23:25:19 +0800

redDUST — Fri, 16 May 2008 23:25:19 +0800

Originally posted by jojobeach:

Really !!

Where ? I cannot find it online leh. Scan a copy of the news and upload here lor.

That boy is Singaporean or foreign talent ?

i scan thru' the papers this morning. it is true. i just browse thru' about the article about how at home he was handling test tubes with older poly students in his class. i think he is not-singaporean.

i could be wrong.

Sg males lagging behind in education standards due to Ns? replied by eagle @ Fri, 16 May 2008 23:20:15 +0800

eagle — Fri, 16 May 2008 23:20:15 +0800

Originally posted by purpledragon84:

600/mth cannot..

2k..

and u can say that u factor in this factor in that with NS in mind therefore u wun be delaying ur life.. but when u factor this and dat, NS is already thwarting ur original plans which doesn't look at NS.. and thats what the topic is abt..

http://www.cpf.gov.sg/cpf_info/publication/educatn.asp#q10

Yes, a guarantor is required and he must:

be a Singapore citizen or permanent resident;
be gainfully employed with a monthly income of at least $500;
be between 21 and 60 years old; and
not be an undischarged bankrupt

Or for bank loan

http://www.ntu.edu.sg/admissions/financialassistance/tuitionfee/tuition+fee+loan.htm

One guarantor above 21 years but below 60 years is required.

· There is no income qualification.

· Singaporean students to provide Singaporean guarantors.

· Non-Singaporean guarantors are acceptable for SPR and foreign students

Sg males lagging behind in education standards due to Ns? replied by jojobeach @ Fri, 16 May 2008 22:49:20 +0800

jojobeach — Fri, 16 May 2008 22:49:20 +0800

Originally posted by oxford mushroom:

Wake up! Children have been skipping grades since I was in school. Read the papers: a 9-year old boy has just entered poly.

Really !!

Where ? I cannot find it online leh. Scan a copy of the news and upload here lor.

That boy is Singaporean or foreign talent ?

Sg males lagging behind in education standards due to Ns? replied by hiphop2009 @ Fri, 16 May 2008 21:23:23 +0800

hiphop2009 — Fri, 16 May 2008 21:23:23 +0800

dats why, i always pray dat i will strike my 50 cent toto soon~

no money no talk. LOL.

Sg males lagging behind in education standards due to Ns? replied by oxford mushroom @ Fri, 16 May 2008 20:46:01 +0800

oxford mushroom — Fri, 16 May 2008 20:46:01 +0800

Originally posted by jojobeach:

Actually, Sg has a very rigid system.

In other countries, when a child shows potential or surpasses the other classmates in academic and intellectual performances, the child is allowed to skip grades and grow according to his ability. Imagine a 15yo with a degree. A teenage maths genius taking his MBA. Can it happen in SG ?

Unlike SG, even if you are smarter and learn faster, you are dumbed down and not allowed to fast forward.

Goal is one thing. That is the final destination. The question is .. can you achieve it faster/sooner so you may yield more from it in your lifetime ?

Wake up! Children have been skipping grades since I was in school. Read the papers: a 9-year old boy has just entered poly.

Sg males lagging behind in education standards due to Ns? replied by purpledragon84 @ Fri, 16 May 2008 19:01:19 +0800

purpledragon84 — Fri, 16 May 2008 19:01:19 +0800

Originally posted by eagle:

Relatives who earn $600 a month already qualify.

So you are saying that poor families do not have integrity? Mind you, a uni grad will earn enough nowadays to support a 'poor' family easily.

600/mth cannot..

2k..

and u can say that u factor in this factor in that with NS in mind therefore u wun be delaying ur life.. but when u factor this and dat, NS is already thwarting ur original plans which doesn't look at NS.. and thats what the topic is abt..

Sg males lagging behind in education standards due to Ns? replied by eagle @ Fri, 16 May 2008 09:52:36 +0800

eagle — Fri, 16 May 2008 09:52:36 +0800

Originally posted by jojobeach:

Uh huh.

You very smart lor. Ok ? Happy ?

Again, I have already mentioned to you "I firmly believe everyone is equal. I'm not smart; everyone has the same potential."

Really dunno what you are doing.... -.-"

Sg males lagging behind in education standards due to Ns? replied by jojobeach @ Fri, 16 May 2008 09:48:16 +0800

jojobeach — Fri, 16 May 2008 09:48:16 +0800

Originally posted by eagle:

To those that are hardworking, I have already expressed how impressed I was.

Which part of my posts are 'demeaning to people who are genuinely hardworking but due to circumstances are not able to be what you think is so "achievable"'?

I have already told you "I'm giving a thumbs up for your friend" and that "I'm directing my posts to those who complained, yet do nothing when they book out or during resting time in army". Are you acting dumb or?

And

is so different from

I didn't say he was doing it to earn extra money. If his dad can't do it, it is either the son does it, or the dad employs someone else to do it. That is why it is 'saved'. You seriously have a comprehension problem.

Uh huh.

You very smart lor. Ok ? Happy ?

Sg males lagging behind in education standards due to Ns? replied by eagle @ Fri, 16 May 2008 09:39:06 +0800

eagle — Fri, 16 May 2008 09:39:06 +0800

Originally posted by jojobeach:

No, my fwen do delivery for his dad is not to earn extra money. He is trying to help out so his father who is already sufferring from arthritis takes a break during his bookout weekends. And his father also had to work double shift just so his son can go uni because the father also no want his son fall behind his peers. Yes it all pays off in the end, but you can imagine the kind of hardship they had to go through to ensure his future is secured.

2 years to you, may be chicken feed, but to others it's a big deal.

You may be directing your dissapointment at the losers and slackers. But have you also considered your postings may also be demeaning to people who are genuinely hardworking but due to circumstances are not able to be what you think is so "achievable"?

And excwees me again.. perhaps it is not me having comprehension problem, it is maybe YOu have problems expressing yourself ?

To those that are hardworking, I have already expressed how impressed I was.

All in all, I'm just damn impressed by people who worked substantially before graduating.

Which part of my posts are 'demeaning to people who are genuinely hardworking but due to circumstances are not able to be what you think is so "achievable"'?

I have already told you "I'm giving a thumbs up for your friend" and that "I'm directing my posts to those who complained, yet do nothing when they book out or during resting time in army". Are you acting dumb or?

And

my fwen do delivery for his dad is (not) to earn extra money.

is so different from

So you mean doing deliveries is not helping his dad earn money? That few bucks per hour saved can add up to quite an amount for his dad over 2 years

I didn't say he was doing it to earn extra money. If his dad can't do it, it is either the son does it, or the dad employs someone else to do it. That is why it is 'saved'. You seriously have a comprehension problem.

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