http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/318965 en-US 60 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by redDUST:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>1. just sharing info on some of the cheapest place where gas are sold.</p> <p>2. malaysia is still one of the cheapest place to pump despite the correction.</p> <p>you don't have to read too deep into it....sometimes...</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>oh... ok, makes sense. anyway i think sg ppl angry cuz msian dun let them pump, not because of the price hike.</p> <p>it's the msian angry abt the price hike</p> Sat, 07 Jun 2008 02:59:33 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:318965:8146895 dumbdumb! http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/318965 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Quincey:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>Well, Malaysian oil or no Malaysian oil, oil prices will just keep on going up.&nbsp;</p> <p>I for one cannot afford the rising costs, so I just decided to keep the car at home and use transit instead. Although it is certainly a lot less glamorous, we do not feel hurt at our pockets at the end of the day. &nbsp;</p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br /> asian mentality. bred in singapore.</p> Sat, 07 Jun 2008 02:33:47 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:318965:8146871 curryman http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/318965 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by dumbdumb!:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>top 20 cheapest i guess?</p> <p>point being?</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>1. just sharing info on some of the cheapest place where gas are sold.</p> <p>2. malaysia is still one of the cheapest place to pump despite the correction.</p> <p>you don't have to read too deep into it....sometimes...</p> Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:19:52 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:318965:8145354 redDUST http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/318965 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by redDUST:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p><span style="font-family: Tahoma;">The Top Twenty list:-<br /> 1) Turkmenistan - US$0.02 per litre <em><em><span style= "font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Tahoma;">(ultra cheap, are you sure this is top grade oil?)</span></em></em></span><span style= "font-size: x-small;"><span style= "font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"><br /> 2) Venezuela - US$0.03 / litre<br /> 3) Iran - US$0.09 / litre<br /> 4) Libya US$0.13 / litre<br /> 5) Saudi Arabia - US$0.16 / litre<br /> 6) Qatar - US$0.19 / litre<br /> 7) Bahrain - US$0.21 / litre<br /> 8) Kuwait - US$0.22 / litre<br /> 9) Egypt - US$0.30 / litre<br /> 10) Yemen - US$0.30 / litre<br /> 11) Oman - US$0.31 / litre<br /> 12) Algeria - US$0.32 / litre<br /> 13) Brunei - US$0.34 / litre</span></span> <span style= "font-size: x-small;"><span style= "font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"><br /> 14) United Arab Emirates - US$0.37 / litre<br /> 15) Trinidad and Tobago - US$0.43 / litre<br /> 16) Azerbaijan - US$0.46 / litre<br /> 17) Ecuador - US$0.47 / litre<br /> 18) Angola - US$0.50 / litre<br /> 19) Nigeria - US$0.51 / litre<br /> <strong><strong><span style="font-family: Tahoma;">20) Malaysia - US$0.85 / litre</span></strong></strong></span></span> <em><strong><em><span style="font-size: xx-small;"><span style= "font-weight: bold; font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Tahoma;">(approx. RM2.70 w.e.f 4 June 2008)</span></span></em></strong></em></p> </div> </blockquote> <p>top 20 cheapest i guess?</p> <p>point being?</p> Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:17:04 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:318965:8145348 dumbdumb! http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/318965 <p><span style="font-family: Tahoma;">The Top Twenty list:-<br /> 1) Turkmenistan - US$0.02 per litre <em><em><span style= "font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Tahoma;">(ultra cheap, are you sure this is top grade oil?)</span></em></em></span><span style= "font-size: x-small;"><span style= "font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"><br /> 2) Venezuela - US$0.03 / litre<br /> 3) Iran - US$0.09 / litre<br /> 4) Libya US$0.13 / litre<br /> 5) Saudi Arabia - US$0.16 / litre<br /> 6) Qatar - US$0.19 / litre<br /> 7) Bahrain - US$0.21 / litre<br /> 8) Kuwait - US$0.22 / litre<br /> 9) Egypt - US$0.30 / litre<br /> 10) Yemen - US$0.30 / litre<br /> 11) Oman - US$0.31 / litre<br /> 12) Algeria - US$0.32 / litre<br /> 13) Brunei - US$0.34 / litre</span></span> <span style= "font-size: x-small;"><span style= "font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"><br /> 14) United Arab Emirates - US$0.37 / litre<br /> 15) Trinidad and Tobago - US$0.43 / litre<br /> 16) Azerbaijan - US$0.46 / litre<br /> 17) Ecuador - US$0.47 / litre<br /> 18) Angola - US$0.50 / litre<br /> 19) Nigeria - US$0.51 / litre<br /> <strong><strong><span style="font-family: Tahoma;">20) Malaysia - US$0.85 / litre</span></strong></strong></span></span> <em><strong><em><span style="font-size: xx-small;"><span style= "font-weight: bold; font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Tahoma;">(approx. RM2.70 w.e.f 4 June 2008)</span></span></em></strong></em></p> Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:13:47 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:318965:8145345 redDUST http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/318965 <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><img src= "http://www.pmo.gov.my/WebNotesApp/Abdullah.nsf/coatarmsicon.gif?OpenImageResource" height="16" alt="" width="20" /> <em><span style= "font-family: Verdana; font-size: xx-small;">| Pejabat Perdana Menteri | <a href="http://www.pmo.gov.my/" rel= "nofollow">http://www.pmo.gov.my</a></span></em></p> <div><img src= "http://www.pmo.gov.my/WebNotesApp/Abdullah.nsf/printButton.gif?OpenImageResource" height="14" alt="" width="17" /> <a rel="nofollow"><span style= "font-family: Verdana; font-size: xx-small;">[ Cetak | Print ]</span></a> &nbsp;&nbsp;</div> <hr /> <p>&nbsp; &nbsp; <span style= "font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">Oleh/By</span> <strong><span style= "font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">:</span></strong> <strong><span style= "font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">DATO' SERI ABDULLAH BIN HAJI AHMAD BADAWI</span></strong><br /> <strong><span style= "font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">PERDANA MENTERI MALAYSIA</span></strong> <img src= "http://www.pmo.gov.my/icons/ecblank.gif" height="1" alt="" width= "1" /> <img src="http://www.pmo.gov.my/icons/ecblank.gif" height= "1" alt="" width="1" /> <span style= "font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">Tempat/Venue</span> <strong><span style= "font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">:</span></strong> <strong><span style= "font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">PEJABAT PERDANA MENTERI</span></strong><br /> <img src="http://www.pmo.gov.my/icons/ecblank.gif" height="1" alt= "" width="1" /> <img src="http://www.pmo.gov.my/icons/ecblank.gif" height="1" alt="" width="1" /> <span style= "font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">Tarikh/Date</span> <strong><span style= "font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">:</span></strong> <strong><span style= "font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">04/06/2008</span></strong> <img src="http://www.pmo.gov.my/icons/ecblank.gif" height="1" alt= "" width="1" /> <img src="http://www.pmo.gov.my/icons/ecblank.gif" height="1" alt="" width="1" /> <span style= "font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">Tajuk/Title</span> <strong><span style= "font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">:</span></strong> <strong><span style= "font-family: Verdana; font-size: x-small;">KENYATAAN MEDIA MENGENAI PAKEJ PENSTRUKTURAN SEMULA SUBSIDI</span></strong><br /> <img src="http://www.pmo.gov.my/icons/ecblank.gif" height="1" alt= "" width="1" /></p> <hr /> <p><br /> <br /></p> <div><img src= "http://www.pmo.gov.my/WebNotesApp/Abdullah.nsf/rimau.gif?OpenImageResource" height="51" alt="" width="65" /><br /> <span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: xx-small;">Pejabat Perdana Menteri</span><br /></div> <p><img src="http://www.pmo.gov.my/icons/ecblank.gif" height="1" alt="" width="1" /> &nbsp; &nbsp;</p> <p><span style="font-family: Verdana;"><br /> KENYATAAN MEDIA MENGENAI PAKEJ PENSTRUKTURAN SEMULA SUBSIDI<br /> <br /> Kerajaan komited untuk memastikan golongan berpendapatan rendah dan sederhana tidak akan dibebani dengan kenaikan kos petrol dan makanan. Namun, kos petrol dan komoditi di peringkat global, telah mengalami kenaikan yang drastik dan subsidi perlu distruktur semula supaya bantuan dapat diagihkan dengan lebih adil. Subsidi yang distruktur semula ini akan memberi lebih manfaat kepada mereka yang memerlukannya, terutama golongan berpendapatan rendah dan sederhana.<br /> <br /> Kabinet hari ini telah meluluskan satu pakej penstrukturan semula subsidi bahan api yang turut merangkumi mekanisme untuk melindungi golongan berpendapatan rendah dan sederhana.<br /> <br /> Untuk itu, Kabinet telah memutuskan untuk mengambil langkah-langkah berikut, sebagai pakej permulaan program penstrukturan subsidi:<br /> <br /> 1. PENSTRUKTURAN SUBSIDI PETROL DAN DIESEL DI PAM<br /> Berkuatkuasa esok, 5 Jun 2008, harga petrol akan meningkat sebanyak 78 sen dan diesel sebanyak RM1.00 setiap liter. Harga baru petrol dan diesel di pam adalah RM2.70 seliter dan RM2.58 seliter.<br /> <br /> Untuk mengurangkan beban kenaikan kos petrol dan diesel ke atas golongan berpendapatan rendah dan sederhana, Kabinet juga bersetuju untuk memberi bayaran tunai kepada warga Malaysia yang memiliki kenderaan persendirian termasuk pemilik motosikal seperti berikut:<br /> <br /> a) Bagi pemilik kenderaan persendirian berkapasiti enjin sehingga 2000cc serta pick up truck dan jip berkapasiti enjin sehingga 2500cc, bayaran tunai sebanyak RM625 setahun bagi setiap kenderaan akan diberikan.<br /> <br /> b) Bagi pemilik motosikal persendirian berkapasiti enjin sehingga 250cc, bayaran tunai sebanyak RM150 setahun bagi setiap motosikal akan diberikan.<br /> <br /> Bayaran tunai ini akan diberi apabila pemilik kenderaan dan motosikal membayar atau memperbaharui lesen kenderaan bermotor (cukai jalan). Bayaran ini meliputi kenderaan dengan cukai jalan yang berkuat kuasa mulai 1 April 2008 hingga 31 Mac 2009. Bayaran tunai ini akan diberikan secara Kiriman Wang (Money Order) di pejabat Pos Malaysia, di seluruh negara, mulai 1 Julai 2008.<br /> <br /> Bagi pemilik kenderaan dan motosikal yang tidak termasuk dalam kategori bayaran tunai tersebut, Kabinet telah memutuskan untuk mengurangkan cukai jalan mengikut kadar berikut berkuatkuasa 1 Jun 2008:<br /> <br /> a) Bagi pemilik kenderaan persendirian petrol dan diesel berkapasiti enjin melebihi 2000cc, cukai jalan akan dikurangkan sebanyak RM200.<br /> <br /> b) Bagi pemilik motosikal persendirian berkapasiti enjin lebih daripada 250cc, cukai jalan akan dikurangkan sebanyak RM50, tertakluk kepada cukai jalan minima sebanyak RM2.<br /> <br /> 2. MENYELARASKAN SUBSIDI DIESEL UNTUK SYARIKAT PENGANGKUTAN YANG DILULUSKAN, SYARIKAT PENGANGKUTAN VESEL DAN NELAYAN<br /> <br /> Pada masa ini, operator pengangkutan, nelayan dan pemilik vesel menikmati harga subsidi berbeza bagi diesel. Harga diesel adalah RM1.00 seliter untuk nelayan dan RM1.20 seliter bagi pemilik vesel. Kabinet hari ini telah bersetuju untuk menyelaraskan harga diesel kepada RM1.43 seliter berkuatkuasa esok 5 Jun 2008. Harga yang diselaraskan ini tidak akan menjejaskan syarikat pengangkutan di bawah sistem fleet card kerana mereka akan terus menikmati subsidi petrol dan diesel pada harga ini.<br /> <br /> Untuk itu, Kabinet telah bersetuju untuk membayar sebahagian daripada perbezaan harga lama dan baru secara tunai kepada nelayan dan pemilik vesel seperti berikut:<br /> <br /> a) Bayaran tunai sebanyak RM200 setiap bulan bagi setiap pemilik dan pekerja vesel rakyat Malaysia yang berdaftar dengan Jabatan Perikanan<br /> <br /> b) Bayaran insentif kepada pemilik vesel pada kadar 10 sen sekilogram hasil tangkapan ikan yang didaratkan oleh vesel perikanan berdaftar di pusat pendaratan ikan di dalam Negara.<br /> <br /> Pembayaran akan diuruskan oleh Lembaga Kemajuan Ikan Malaysia (LKIM).<br /> <br /> Kabinet memutuskan pengusaha bot penumpang sungai juga akan diberi bayaran tunai sebanyak 10 sen seliter berdasarkan kuota yang diluluskan.<br /> <br /> 3. PETRONAS AKAN MENYUSUN SEMULA SUBSIDI GAS<br /> <br /> Mulai 1 Julai 2008, harga gas yang dibekalkan oleh Petronas di Semenanjung Malaysia akan diubah seperti berikut:<br /> <br /> a) Bagi sektor elektrik, harga akan dinaikkan daripada RM6.40 setiap mmBtu kepada RM14.31 setiap mmBtu;<br /> <br /> b) Bagi pengguna sektor industri yang menggunakan kurang daripada 2mmscfd, harga yang ditetapkan oleh Gas Malaysia Sdn Bhd (GMSB) akan dinaikkan daripada RM9.40 setiap mmBtu kepada RM24.54 setiap mmBtu.<br /> <br /> c) Bagi pengguna sektor industri yang menggunakan lebih daripada 2 mmscfd, harga gas yang dibekalkan oleh Petronas akan dinaikkan daripada RM11.32 setiap mmBtu kepada RM32.56 setiap mmBtu.<br /> <br /> Bagaimanapun, bantuan khas akan diberikan kepada pengguna GMSB iaitu bagi kategori Perusahaan Kecil dan Sederhana (PKS). Pengguna ini akan menghadapi kenaikan yang lebih rendah bagi kadar tarif gas.<br /> <br /> Selaras dengan dasar tenaga boleh diperbaharui (sustainable energy), Petronas akan mengurangkan subsidi bagi sektor elektrik secara progresif sejajar dengan harga pasaran semasa, sehingga tahun ke-15, apabila parasnya mencecah harga pasaran. Pada masa yang sama, subsidi bagi sektor industri akan dikurangkan secara progresif sejajar dengan harga pasaran, sehingga tahun ke-11, apabila parasnya mencecah harga pasaran.<br /> <br /> Harga minyak masak (Gas Petroleum Cecair atau LPG) dan Gas Asli bagi Kenderaan (NGV) tidak akan berubah. Harga bagi LPG dan NGV tetap pada kadar sedia ada iaitu RM1.75 setiap kg dan 63.5 sen setiap liter.<br /> <br /> 4. STRUKTUR BARU TARIF ELEKTRIK<br /> <br /> Untuk sekian lama, rakyat Malaysia termasuk sektor komersil dan industri, telah menikmati diskaun yang tinggi bagi gas yang disediakan oleh PETRONAS. Pada masa yang sama, Tenaga Nasional Berhad (TNB) terpaksa menampung kenaikan harga arang batu.<br /> <br /> Dengan penstrukturan semula subsidi gas dan kenaikan harga arang batu, Kerajaan telah meluluskan satu struktur baru tarif elektrik bagi membolehkan TNB menyerap kos bahan api bagi gas dan arang batu. Struktur tarif baru yang akan berkuatkuasa pada 1 Julai 2008 ini, akan diguna pakai oleh semua pengguna domestik (rumah), komersil dan industri di Semenanjung Malaysia sahaja. Satu struktur tarif baru akan diumumkan tidak lama lagi bagi Sabah dan Sarawak.<br /> <br /> Selaras dengan hasrat Kerajaan untuk melindungi sebaik mungkin kebajikan golongan berpendapatan rendah dan sederhana, struktur tarif elektrik yang baru ini tidak akan menjejaskan pengguna yang menggunakan 200 Kilowat Jam (kWj) ke bawah setiap bulan dengan anggaran bil elektrik adalah kurang daripada RM43.60. Ini bermakna, 59 peratus isi rumah di Semenanjung Malaysia akan membayar kadar yang sama selagi mereka mengekalkan tahap penggunaan yang sama.<br /> <br /> Pengguna komersil dan industri akan mengalami peningkatan sebanyak 26 peratus. Bagaimanapun, bagi kategori komersil dan industri, pertimbangan dibuat kepada peruncit, pekedai dan pengusaha restoran kecil, serta pengguna industri seperti perusahaan kampung yang menggunakan tidak melebihi daripada 200 Kilowat Jam (kWj) setiap bulan akan hanya mengalami kenaikan 18 peratus. (Butiran terperinci bagi tarif baru elektrik dikepilkan bersama).<br /> <br /> Langkah-langkah yang telah disebut adalah selaras dengan keputusan Kerajaan untuk menstruktur semula subsidi, yang mana usaha ini akan menuju ke arah harga pasaran yang sebenar, meningkatkan kecekapan pasaran serta menggalakkan rakyat Malaysia untuk menjimatkan sumber tenaga. Sektor komersil dan industri akan menjadi lebih bermotivasi untuk melaksanakan langkah-langkah kecekapan dalam operasinya sementara pengguna bagi isi rumah akan mengamalkan penjimatan tenaga serta mengelak daripada pembaziran.<br /> <br /> 5. SUMBANGAN SYARIKAT PENJANA TENAGA BEBAS (IPP) DAN PENGELUAR MINYAK KELAPA SAWIT (POP) KE ARAH MENGURANGKAN BEBAN RAKYAT<br /> <br /> IPP dijangka menjana keuntungan lebih daripada pulangan pasaran. Selaras dengan penstrukturan semula subsidi bagi gas, Kerajaan telah memutuskan untuk melaksanakan peruntukkan di bawah Akta Levi Keuntungan Berlebihan 1998 (Windfall Profit Levy Act 1998), ke atas IPP, sebagai sumbangan mereka terhadap kenaikan kos bahan api untuk menjana tenaga elektrik. Kuantum bagi levi itu adalah 30 peratus daripada lebihan pulangan aset pada nilai threshold melebihi 9 peratus berdasarkan akaun mereka yang diaudit.<br /> <br /> POP juga, yang telah mencatat kenaikan untung ekoran harga minyak kelapa sawit yang tinggi di pasaran dunia. Kabinet hari ini telah bersetuju untuk memansuhkan levi sistem subsidi minyak masak (COSS) yang sedia ada berkuatkuasa 1 Julai 2008. Bagi menggantikannya, Kabinet telah membuat keputusan untuk melaksanakan peruntukan di bawah Akta Levi Keuntungan Berlebihan 1998 ke atas POP. Levi berikut akan dikenakan pada peringkat pemproses (millers):<br /> <br /> i) Bagi Sabah dan Sarawak, 7.5 peratus bagi setiap tan minyak mentah kelapa sawit (CPO) yang melebihi RM2,000<br /> <br /> ii) Bagi Semenanjung Malaysia, 15 peratus bagi setiap tan CPO yang melebihi RM2,000<br /> <br /> Walaupun COSS telah dimansuhkan, harga minyak masak tetap sama kerana hasil daripada pelaksanaan levi baru ini akan digunakan untuk membiayai subsidi minyak masak.<br /> <br /> Kadar levi bagi POP di Sabah dan Sarawak adalah lebih rendah memandangkan mereka juga perlu membayar cukai kepada Kerajaan negeri (sebagai contoh 7.5 peratus ke atas CPO di Sabah dan 5 peratus ke atas CPO di Sarawak).<br /> <br /> 6. PENGAGIHAN PENJIMATAN DARIPADA PENSTRUKTURAN SEMULA SUBSIDI DAN PENDAPATAN YANG DIPEROLEH DARIPADA LEVI<br /> <br /> Kerajaan menganggarkan sejumlah RM13.7 bilion daripada penjimatan yang akan diperolehi daripada penstrukturan semula subsidi petrol, diesel dan gas serta pendapatan daripada levi yang dikenakan terhadap IPP dan POP. . Dikepilkan bersama lampiran maklumat pengagihan berkenaan.<br /> <br /> 7. MENINGKATKAN THRESHOLD CUKAI PERKHIDMATAN BAGI PERKHIDMATAN RESTORAN DI LUAR HOTEL<br /> <br /> Restoran yang terletak di luar hotel yang telah mencapai perolehan jualan tahunan (threshold) lebih daripada RM500,000 dikenakan cukai perkhidmatan pada kadar 5%. Terdapat rungutan mengenai threshold cukai perkhidmatan ini yang dianggap terlalu rendah sehinggakan gerai makanan di kawasan luar bandar kini mampu mencapainya.<br /> <br /> Bagi memastikan rakyat tidak terbeban dengan bayaran cukai perkhidmatan dalam memperoleh perkhidmatan penyediaan makanan dan minuman oleh restoran yang terletak di luar hotel, Kerajaan bersetuju threshold cukai perkhidmatan bagi restoran sebegini ditingkatkan daripada RM500,000 kepada RM3 juta.<br /> <br /> Peningkatan threshold di atas berkuat kuasa mulai 1 Julai 2008.<br /></span></p> <p><img src="http://www.pmo.gov.my/icons/ecblank.gif" height="1" alt="" width="1" /></p> Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:29:31 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:318965:8142946 yongyong http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/318965 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by idwar:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>Malaysia to ban border fuel sales to foreigners<br /> <span>Posted: 27 May 2008 1252 hrs</span></p> <p>&nbsp; <img src= "http://www.channelnewsasia.com/imagegallery/store/phpXZnHnn.jpg" alt="" /> &nbsp; Photos <span>1</span>&nbsp;of <span>1</span> <img src="http://www.channelnewsasia.com/images/dotline_240.gif" height="3" alt="" width="240" /><br /> <span>Motorists fill their cars up at a petrol station in Malaysia.</span> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><span>KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia will ban petrol stations on its borders with Thailand and Singapore from selling fuel to foreigners, in an attempt to contain the spiralling cost of subsidies, reports said on Tuesday.<br /> <br /> "It's the question of principle because you are talking about taxpayers' money, and taxpayers' money being used to subsidise petrol for those not entitled to receive the subsidy," said Deputy Prime Minister Najib Razak.<br /> <br /> "Our level of subsidy is very high," he told a press conference</span></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>================================================</p> <p>The reason why malaysia dun wanna sell to Singapore:</p> <p><img src="http://www.notcot.com/images/monkey3.jpg" height="796" alt="" width="1200" /></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>They don't want to feed the cheapskate monkeys any more.......</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>nobody is stupid or cheapskate. this is called symbiosis where 2 different kinds co-exist for mutual benefits.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:19:34 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:318965:8142913 lotus999 http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/318965 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by CannyOng:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>I think the subsidise cost more money than those singaporean spend on Malaysia. U all want cheap fuel therefore say Malaysian stupid, don't know how to do business. They spend US $14 billion on fuel subsidise. If I am Malaysia minsister, I will also do that. Singaporean got spend so much inside Malaysia meh??? Don't forget , they subsidise rice, cooking oil too and we last time go in buy buy buy.. Add another few billion.. No wonder Malaysian Gov not as rich as Spore gov.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>the us$14 billion subsidise is for all the fuel sold in msia and not for the fuel sold to sg cars only.</p> <p>i think for the fuel subsidise we received we spend more in return. we contribute quite a fair bit to the economy of johore. just look at the many eating outlets and shops that have popped up to cater to sg tourists.</p> Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:12:00 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:318965:8142889 lotus999 http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/318965 <p>The malaysia gov shouldn't impose a ban, instead it should charge the Singaporean cars the full price (without the subsidize). Make more sense this way.</p> Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:11:34 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:318965:8142887 333225520 http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/318965 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by yongyong:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>the sg ban is on next monday.&nbsp; The RM2.80 started this morning at 0:00.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>thanks for the clarification. that was what i thought but he insists that singapore cars can still fill in regardless.</p> <p>i guess come monday, it will be all quiet on the other side.</p> Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:08:56 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:318965:8142876 redDUST http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/318965 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by redDUST:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>seriously on a 3Q tank? what is a mileage per litre on a sunny? basic calculation, at a conservative 10km/l mileage, on a 3qtr tank full in a sunny, say 30litres in the tank, you can travel almost to seremban, no problem. you got a lemon!&nbsp;</p> <p>and in any case, singapore cars CAN fill up in JB, even within the 50km radius. there is no restriction per se. you just pay the rm2.80 per litre like all malaysian. my JB friend just confirmed that with me a while ago.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>the sg ban is on next monday.&nbsp; The RM2.80 started this morning at 0:00.</p> Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:01:31 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:318965:8142845 yongyong http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/318965 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by storywolf:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p><br /> Well if you ever drive a nissan Sunny !!! then you will worry about the 50km radius - driving here and there.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>seriously on a 3Q tank? what is a mileage per litre on a sunny? basic calculation, at a conservative 10km/l mileage, on a 3qtr tank full in a sunny, say 30litres in the tank, you can travel almost to seremban, no problem. you got a lemon!&nbsp;</p> <p>and in any case, singapore cars CAN fill up in JB, even within the 50km radius. there is no restriction per se. you just pay the rm2.80 per litre like all malaysian. my JB friend just confirmed that with me a while ago.</p> Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:56:28 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:318965:8142838 redDUST http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/318965 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by redDUST:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>aren't you playing by fear and contradicting yourself here?</p> <p>as a driver, i can't see how one can end up with an empty tank within a 50km radius on 3Q tank full of petrol.</p> <p>plus, we are human beings, not monkey. i think we can think and plan based on what's left in the tank accordingly.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br /> Well if you ever drive a nissan Sunny !!! then you will worry about the 50km radius - driving here and there.</p> Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:28:40 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:318965:8142584 storywolf http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/318965 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Atobe:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Driving into the Iskandar Project and not being able to return to Singapore, and exposing one's stalled cars to robbers - that will be a smart prospect to be promoted for Singapore investors to transfer money to help with&nbsp;the project.</p> <p>....Singaporean cars can top a full tank, when the gas tanks are three-quarter full before leaving Singapore ?</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>aren't you playing by fear and contradicting yourself here?</p> <p>as a driver, i can't see how one can end up with an empty tank within a 50km radius on 3Q tank full of petrol.</p> <p>plus, we are human beings, not monkey. i think we can think and plan based on what's left in the tank accordingly.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:40:55 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:318965:8142360 redDUST http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/318965 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Gackt247:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>Badawi is really shooting his own foot loh. Yes, short term, he will gain popularity by playing the "Singapore is the whipping boy" card. Longterm, when Johor's biz start dying, he has another renegade state to contend with.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>UMNO is so screwed.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>All thx to Dr M for screwing everybody up in the North. Woohoo.. Longevity to him sia..</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>what did Dr M do?</p> Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:31:39 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:318965:8142345 dumbdumb! http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/318965 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by BadzMaro:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>Dont worry. In few months time. Policy towards subsidising petrol of diesel and octane 97++ will cease. Only u92 below will be subsidised. Subsidy diesel to fishermen will still stay on the 1 dollar a litre mark . And the continuous use of 0.30cent subsidy cards on diesel will still continue. This the inside news i got last week.</p> <p>Soon , all prices will be same liaw.SG can pump in MY regardless.. cause prices will be same.&nbsp; Unless u drive a real old and sh|t car that uses regular.</p> <p>Actually i think MY should continue subsidy and scrap useless mega projects to sustain the rising costs and try to find solution to slowly easy back on subsidy. ACA should start to do its job in retrieving billions of ringgit for corruption.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>woa bro you were right on.</p> <p>damn got anymore inside tips to exploit on anot?</p> Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:02:08 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:318965:8142283 newcomer http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/318965 <div class="quote_from">So, for my johor frd sake, lets make the RM5 noodlles become RM2.50....</div> <div class="quote_from">Peace.......<br /></div> Thu, 29 May 2008 16:40:33 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:318965:8123654 yongyong http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/318965 <p>singaporeans' spending in johor is not the only income of malaysia... so, they dun care whether u go there or not...</p> <p>And, if we singaporean dun go there, the noodles will dropped from RM5 dolar to RM2.50 liaw... cheap cheap ...</p> Thu, 29 May 2008 16:39:29 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:318965:8123650 yongyong http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/318965 <p>Badawi is really shooting his own foot loh. Yes, short term, he will gain popularity by playing the "Singapore is the whipping boy" card. Longterm, when Johor's biz start dying, he has another renegade state to contend with.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>UMNO is so screwed.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>All thx to Dr M for screwing everybody up in the North. Woohoo.. Longevity to him sia..</p> Thu, 29 May 2008 14:31:47 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:318965:8123388 Gackt247 http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/318965 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Atobe:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>Was it a mistake that you called yourself - a Malaysian -&nbsp;stupid ?</p> <p>Actually, the stupidity continues, as those Malaysians owning cars with Singapore License Plates - {and commuting daily to earn Singapore Dollars, and paying also Malaysian Taxes} - also cannot purchase petrol at all petrol stations within a 50 km radius from any border crossing.</p> <p>Afterall, how many Singaporean cars can top a full tank, when the gas tanks are three-quarter full before leaving Singapore ?</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>Msian working in Singapore do not have to pay Malaysia Taxes.</p> <p>Have you seen the clip of that driver humping his Honda Civic?</p> Thu, 29 May 2008 14:29:09 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:318965:8123380 substance1983 http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/318965 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by newcomer:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p><br /> it's a politically correct answer. :thumb:</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>thank you, thank you. =)</p> <p>is that an emoticon? cannot see?</p> Thu, 29 May 2008 11:31:12 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:318965:8123043 dumbdumb! http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/318965 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by dumbdumb!:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>lol, actually i didn't. but the answer i gave was a fair one right?</p> <p>&nbsp;and speaking of getting what each other are saying. what i meant earlier was that for every law, there is a loophole, and as long as their system is corrupted, they can't enforce anything lor. =x</p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br /> it's a politically correct answer. :thumb:</p> Thu, 29 May 2008 11:29:14 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:318965:8123034 newcomer http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/318965 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by newcomer:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>well u get what i'm saying. no need for the lingo mumbo jumbo.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>lol, actually i didn't. but the answer i gave was a fair one right?</p> <p>&nbsp;and speaking of getting what each other are saying. what i meant earlier was that for every law, there is a loophole, and as long as their system is corrupted, they can't enforce anything lor. =x</p> Thu, 29 May 2008 11:27:20 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:318965:8123029 dumbdumb! http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/318965 <p>well u get what i'm saying. no need for the lingo mumbo jumbo.</p> Thu, 29 May 2008 11:19:03 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:318965:8123012 newcomer http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/318965 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by newcomer:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p><br /> can christians do that?</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>the answer to that is. can, because there is a means to, and a motive, and an opportunity.</p> <p>but i think the question should be rephrased as: <span style= "text-decoration: underline;">will we do that?</span></p> <p>then it depends on individual and their own conviction and moral standing. my family won't.</p> <p>as for me ah. i don't know. no car, no licence. =)</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>anyway, my point is, if there's a big hoo ha about malaysia being difficult, we can always fall back on their corrupted system.</p> Thu, 29 May 2008 11:16:28 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:318965:8123007 dumbdumb! http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/318965