James Gomez is still liar, dishonest MM Lee replied by SingaporeTyrannosaur @ Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:26:12 +0800

SingaporeTyrannosaur — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:26:12 +0800

Originally posted by noisylion:

lionnoisy dared not tell sgforums cloning incidents in

sgforums web site.What a shame.

2.lionnoisy shows off his name was the most search itme in clonings in sgforums,

after he was exposed he lied that he was hacked and talk to himself thru makepeace.

What a shame.

3.Dunt create clones.u wont be so lucky.

So u see,a lionnoisy candidiate in sgforums cant make a good posts, or

if make a clone,cannot even hide it properly.

dunt blame me i dunt have too much confidences in him.

Here are the sad history:

Crimes Against the Forum

CLONING!

MAKEPEACE, MAKE CLONES?

A REPORT ON ATTEMPTED ASTROTURFING AND SOCKPUPPETING BY LIONNOISY

a lion puppet

For those who wondered what happened.

Lionnoisy created a clone called "makepeace" which he used in speakers corner to further his own agenda, trying to give people the impression that there are others out there that would agree with him.

Unfortunately he did a very poor job of hiding it.

This kind of behaviour is called sockpuppeting, ie. creating a false online identity to praise, defend or create the illusion of support for one’s self, allies or company.

A sockpuppet is an online identity used for purposes of deception within an Internet community. In its earliest usage, a sockpuppet was a false identity through which a member of an Internet community speaks while pretending not to, like a puppeteer manipulating a hand puppet.^[1]

In current usage, the perception of the term has been extended beyond second identities of people who already post in a forum to include other uses of misleading online identities. For example, a NY Times article claims that "sock-puppeting" is defined as "the act of creating a fake online identity to praise, defend or create the illusion of support for one’s self, allies or company."^[2]

The key difference between a sockpuppet and a regular pseudonym (sometimes termed an "alt") is the pretense that the puppet is a third party who is not affiliated with the puppeteer.

To "flame wars" and "phishing" we can now add "sock puppet." A sock puppet, for those still boning up, is a false identity through which a member of an Internet community speaks while pretending not to, like a puppeteer manipulating a hand puppet. Recently, a senior editor at The New Republic got in trouble for some particularly colorful sock puppetry.

When Lee Siegel began blogging for The New Republic, he found, as many others have, that Internet posters tend to be fairly outspoken — and a good number of the posters on the blog were harshly critical. An exception was ''sprezzatura,'' who regularly offered extravagant praise. After Mr. Siegel was criticized for his writing about Jon Stewart, host of ''The Daily Show,'' sprezzatura wrote: ''Siegel is brave, brilliant and wittier than Stewart will ever be. Take that, you bunch of immature, abusive sheep.'' A reader charged that sprezzatura was in fact Mr. Siegel, but sprezzatura denied it.

The reader turned out to be right. ...

After making some lame and hasty excuse about his account being hacked, lionnoisy suddenly abandoned all this threads in which him being sockpuppeting was being mentioned. Unfortunately his excuse cannot stand up to logic as he was seen responding to and talking back TO HIS OWN ACCOUNT.

This is what happened:

29th April 0932hrs a "user" called "makepeace" that had never posted before created a lionnoisy-sounding titled thread called "Oz Judge ban TV drama & interview glorify gangland wars "

Already suspisions were raised because the structure and phrasing of the title was signature of lionnoisy. The first post by this "makepeace" was as such:

Originally posted by makepeace:

Oz Supreme Judge Justice Betty King

bans TV drama serices & interviews

glorifying those in the gangland war.The bans to prevent

jurors to be affected while the trial of a murder case is in progress.

U hardly expect democratic and free country like Oz will

ban TV programmes .Right?

U wont know TV programmes on Oz gangsters

are so hot there.Right?

u wont know ganglang wars there also so frequent.Right?

1.Judge cuts down(TV) Nine's Underbelly

Milanda Rout | February 12, 2008

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23200497-7582,00.html

2.Judge bans 'crime mums' interview

Peter Gregory | April 22, 2008

Barbara Williams and Judith Moran,

the mothers of defendant Evangelos Goussis

and the widow of the murdered Lewis Moran

respectively,were interviewed.

Its damn interesting that this news was under

Entertainment section!!

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/entertainment/judge-bans-underbelly-report/2008/04/21/1208742836107.html?s_cid=rss_news

3.The Morgan family----the story of the murdered

http://www.melbournecrime.bizhosting.com/moran.family.htm

4.The story of the Boss ,Carl Williams,behind the killing

http://www.melbournecrime.bizhosting.com/carl.williams.htm

5.u can learn more by seraching Justice Betty King

in www.yahoo.com.au

6.Questions

A.Why the media want to air the interview while the trial

is still on?

B.How are the gang activities in Down Under?

C.Am i look like anti--Oz?

D.How true are the postings in 3 and 4 listed above.

i dunt expect the there are so many details about

Oz gangsters.Can any one tell me more?

Note that other then for the user name, this post is virtually indistinguishable from the countless of other lionnoisy posts we can compare it with. The excessive reliance on the media, posting of hyperlinks, using warped logic that takes issues out of their context, and most tellingly the horrible english which make typos and grammatical errors right down to what lionnoisy would EXACTLY make is exactly what you'd expect from lionnoisy.

Hence lionnoisy must have been someone disappointed because after 20 minutes still nobody bothered to reply to his post under makepeace. Hence he decided to bump his own thread.

But after a few lackluster replies, he finally decided to "talk" to makepeace

Originally posted by lionnoisy:

3.The Morgan family----the story of the murdered

http://www.melbournecrime.bizhosting.com/moran.family.htm

4.The story of the Boss ,Carl Williams,behind the killing

http://www.melbournecrime.bizhosting.com/carl.williams.htm

I cant believe there are so many killings

in the above links !!!

More excited than Holloywood movies!!

Note the bad acting, where he pretended to be "excited" and "surprised" about what he wrote himself.

Now this is the funny part, if his account was really hacked as he claimed it to be, he would certainly not be replying back to his "hacked" account so happily in such a way.

But in any case when he was exposed he made this very funny, frantic and desperate post trying to suddenly divorce himself from the actions of his sockpuppetry by claiming he was hacked. Unfortunately all a basic look at the thread will reveal what really happened, and that is nothing other then lionnoisy was caught red-handed sockpuppeting.

Originally posted by lionnoisy:

Why did u check IP and English of forumers?

i just know my acct has been hijacked and u post it!!

It seems u are faster than me?Looks so strange!!

Looks like it is a cyber crime and /or frame up.

Hv anyone(u know who i mean) hacked into my e mails and computers ?

Do i have to hire armed guards to stay outside my

pigeon hole?

I am seeking helps from ISD,CIA,FBI,MI 5 and 6,

PRC Kong Ang, etc to check who hijack my acct

and make me appearing as ''makepeace'' after

i click submit.How safe in this forum??

I will buy you Ya Kun coffee if your info can lead to

catch the criminal,

Forums owners and mods are hereby notified my formal ,written and distressing complaints to cyber crimes!!

Another paethetic, and desperate reply from him when he was cornered:

Originally posted by lionnoisy:

oh it is good.Then can help me saving time to see counsellors How to get rid of computers addicts!!bye

Those who want to see what happened can go here:

http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/315326

And some screencaps, so the evidence is preserved:

"mysterous" makepeace appears:

and of course his own excited and poorly acted "reply" to his own clone.

and his own desperate and feeble attempts to wriggle out of the situtation:

http://www.jamesgomeznews.com/article.php?AID=1

James Gomez is still liar, dishonest MM Lee replied by lionnoisy @ Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:05:50 +0800

lionnoisy — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:05:50 +0800

WP dared not tell James Gomez two forms incidents in

WP web site.What a shame.

2.Gomez shows off his name was the most search itme in 2006,

after he was exposed he lied that he had submitted the form.

What a shame.

3.Dunt frame up people.Next time u wont be so lucky.

So u see,a PhD candidiate in Opp Party cant find the right form, or

if filled out the correct one,cannot submit it properly.

dunt blame me i dunt have too much confidences in them.

Here are the sad history

http://www.jamesgomeznews.com/article.php?AID=1

In the 2001 general elections his (and his team mates’) nomination papers to contest the Aljunied Group Representation Constituency (GRC) were declared void as the statutory declaration forms were deemed to be improperly filed. (In 2005, the government amended the Parliamentary Elections Act to do away with the need for a statutory declaration.)

In 2006, he stood as a candidate for the Workers' Party as part of a five member team in the Aljunied GRC. James Gomez became the face of the 2006 general elections when the ruling party tried to make political capital out of his application for a minority certificate.

As a result, during Singapore’s General Elections held in May 2006, “James Gomez” became the most searched name in Technorati an "authority on what's going on in the world of weblogs". The volume of reportage in the local and international media on James Gomez during the nine-days of campaigning raised James’s profile to an iconic level.

James Gomez is still liar, dishonest MM Lee replied by purpledragon84 @ Wed, 04 Jun 2008 07:55:31 +0800

purpledragon84 — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 07:55:31 +0800

roflcopter!

James Gomez is still liar, dishonest MM Lee replied by Gensis @ Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:12:45 +0800

Gensis — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:12:45 +0800

This is a true story..

There was once I went to a friend's place to check out his new audio system..…..my friend was staying in the nice apartment together with his sister (who is Singapore supermodel ) and parents, who were away on that day…….....when I first arrive, nobody was there accept for my friend….....then at about 10.30 in the evening…......this tall, gorgeous looking girl walks in…that was the first time that I see his sister in person...….she was stunning, wearing this worn out jeans and white T-shirt....…..she was very friendly and sat down with us for about 15 mins before going to her room to take her shower……….(her sister room is actually linked to the common toilet that I have been using before she came back)……..and after about 20mins…..….her sister open the toilet door…..and I quickly make my way to the toilet cause I need to pee badly….

When I was enjoying my pee……….I was shock to see sometime lying on the laundry basket cover …..it was my friend sister's used panties and bra...she just remove a few minutes ago…and you can see that the stain on it is still wet....(must have forgotten that I am in the house)…..when I see that…....my heart start to pump in double quick time…and without much thinking........my hands went straight down to reach for it……..the panties that I was holding is white in color......and it comes with some yellowish stain …...…while I am holding it….....my mind was trying to picture her supermodel face together with the panties…….man it was really mind blow…...then I start to smell it……..

I know it might sound sick and crazy………but the curiosity of knowing how a supermodel pu$$y smells like is just irresistible.

Any one have the similar experience before?

James Gomez is still liar, dishonest MM Lee replied by eagle @ Tue, 03 Jun 2008 21:34:34 +0800

eagle — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 21:34:34 +0800

Originally posted by Point_blank:

Justify myself to the likes of you? lol! You think too highly of yourself, simpleton.

PS: How does it feel to be on the receiving ends of your 'flailing attempts not by reason and logic, but by insults to others? :-P

Call me anything if you wish, that's your nature anyway. What else can be expected of a pathetic lifeform like you? You do realise that no one will mind being called anything by someone as juvenile as you.

How do I feel at the receiving end of your nonsense? Just like talking to a pathetic mad man who escaped from Woodbridge lor, those that no matter who they see, will just open their mouth to showcase the filthy worms crawling around inside. How could one ever expect reason and logic coming from a pathetic lunatic like you?

PS: How does it feel to be the joke of the forum, to be look down upon as a pathetic lifeform with totally no credibility by the majority in this forum?

James Gomez is still liar, dishonest MM Lee replied by Atobe @ Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:35:15 +0800

Atobe — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:35:15 +0800

Originally posted by Point_blank:

That's all you can say? Expected i suppose, comming from you - all crap and no substance.

Perhaps you may want to consider changing your nick from Asswipe Atobe to something else, so you can continue to fool others? Or has it been done already?

What can anyone expect from your ability at understanding anything but 'Point_blank' logic ?

It is only in your own perverse way of understanding your own 'points' made in your own unique 'blank' form of the English Language that you will imagine carry any substance.

Yes, ''comming from you - all crap and no substance'' is typical 'Point_blank' juvenile ways of using the English Language.

The only fool that is hung up on my writing seems to be you, as you seem to be the only one who is returning for more swipes - after getting your ass butt kicked across each thread in this Speakers' Corner.

You are the only vain one that is intent on seeking recognition from the gallery, seeking others to judge our on-going debate, when you have nothing truly that of value - even nothing to point as to where my supposed lies exist, only general accusation and loud obscene expletives seems to be your only forte.

It is amazing that you dare take up the cudgel for your God Father, when you cannot even protect your own ass butt from getting constantly swiped.

James Gomez is still liar, dishonest MM Lee replied by Point_blank @ Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:58:39 +0800

Point_blank — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:58:39 +0800

Originally posted by eagle:

This is coming from someone who challenged others

Hypocrite, aren't you?

I do love seeing how you attempt flailingly to justify yourself not by reason and logic, but by insults. Do continue to show us your pathetic self

Justify myself to the likes of you? lol! You think too highly of yourself, simpleton.

PS: How does it feel to be on the receiving ends of your 'flailing attempts not by reason and logic, but by insults to others? :-P

James Gomez is still liar, dishonest MM Lee replied by eagle @ Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:36:47 +0800

eagle — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:36:47 +0800

Originally posted by Point_blank:

I did say you were a simpleton. As for 'throw it to the floor for judging', that wouldn't be necessary. You already had been judged since the day you joined here.

This is coming from someone who challenged others

don't chicken out

Hypocrite, aren't you?

I do love seeing how you attempt flailingly to justify yourself not by reason and logic, but by insults. Do continue to show us your pathetic self

James Gomez is still liar, dishonest MM Lee replied by lotus999 @ Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:49:39 +0800

lotus999 — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:49:39 +0800

from mm lee's comments on gomez i really find him to be petty and wanting in political grace. as a prominent senior statesman of the country he shouldn't be involved in the factional disputes and nitty-gritty issues of the gahmen.

James Gomez is still liar, dishonest MM Lee replied by Point_blank @ Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:40:31 +0800

Point_blank — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:40:31 +0800

Originally posted by eagle:

You must be joking. The record is still you were unable to handle logic. Anyway you have already lost all credibility. Do bring out the records. I challenge you to bring out the history of our exchanges in this thread, and throw it to the floor for judging.

I did say you were a simpleton. As for 'throw it to the floor for judging', that wouldn't be necessary. You already had been judged since the day you joined here.

James Gomez is still liar, dishonest MM Lee replied by Tianxiawudi @ Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:38:50 +0800

Tianxiawudi — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:38:50 +0800

From the pages of postings containing the vast mixed vegetable contents that flew from one end to the other, and may I stand corrected to deduce that the issues contended are, inter alia, political integrity, electoral honesty, and coherence (incoherence) and truth.

“Political integrity is the requirement to make the law in a way that is morally coherent.” (Dworkin in Bauman and Kahana, 2006).It is an ideal supplementing electoral honesty that includes the preclusion of Casuistry or even Act Utilitarianism. In other words, it underscores those democratic principles enshrined in the rule of law as propounded by Dicey that consequently promotes free and fair elections including unhindered space for citizenry participation. This seems to be not only a Singapore goal, but rather an international goal as there is undeniably a global move towards democratization.

However, the downside is that democracy threatens the autonomy of those in power who inevitably, through the argument of coherence or otherwise, evoke the legal tool to keep others from wrestling control through increasingly sophisticated and diversified designs to coerce the disenfranchised to comply with the rules established by those in power. This is inevitably transformed into imbalanced electoral designs to perpetuate vested interests. Some countries successfully fight electoral injustice effectively whilst others are less successful. The primary reason behind this is the type of governance of which is shaped by a country’s political, economic and cultural history and the populace’s maturity and understanding of their political autonomy. It is less a problem for countries that adhere to the rule of law where there are ministerial responsibility and accountability and that procedures are transparent; but it would be otherwise for those that do not have possess such democratic norms, especially countries in transition from authoritarianism.

The truth is that conflicts amongst interests are inevitable and whether such conflicts are dealt with progressively or regressively reflects on the type of political mentality of the people and the environment in place and time. The ultimate sovereignty lies in the hands of the people and not the servants they elect to serve them; and it is only upon the realization and exercise of their respective sovereignty that democracy is finally attained.

James Gomez is still liar, dishonest MM Lee replied by Point_blank @ Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:38:19 +0800

Point_blank — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:38:19 +0800

Originally posted by Atobe:

Hahaha... the familiar cynical laughter that your favorite God Father would have used in his reaction to this kind of insolent attitude.

Have you regained your self-confidence and assuredness in your own position after having lost it in the other thread ?

You should return to your Primary School and ask your English Languauge teacher how anyone with a reasonable grounding in English should read and interprete the meaning that you intend to convey.

If anyone is playing with semantics it seems that you are incapable of even attempting to use the English in it simplest and most basic form.

Is this any fault of mine when you print the words as shown, and expect anyone to interprete the same in the manner that you did ?

You are certainly absurd in putting the blame on someone when you have committed a simple juvenile error of carelessness.

Or could this be your slimey ways in posting dishonest views of an honest event ?

You certainly has a long way to go before the God Father's shoes fit you. Juvenile.

That's all you can say? Expected i suppose, comming from you - all crap and no substance.

Perhaps you may want to consider changing your nick from Asswipe Atobe to something else, so you can continue to fool others? Or has it been done already?

James Gomez is still liar, dishonest MM Lee replied by Atobe @ Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:13:56 +0800

Atobe — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:13:56 +0800

Originally posted by Point_blank:

Asswipe, don't chicken out and argue based on semantics. For all the crap you spew, FACTS ARE FACTS. As i had guessed, you would sacrifice WP for your own ego and ends by claiming now MP Low TK did not apologise.

How low can you go, asswipe?

Are you helping the opposition or killing them further with your kind of atrocious and malicious attitude, type that the People most fear of trusting?

Hahaha... the familiar cynical laughter that your favorite God Father would have used in his reaction to this kind of insolent attitude.

Have you regained your self-confidence and assuredness in your own position after having lost it in the other thread ?

You should return to your Primary School and ask your English Languauge teacher how anyone with a reasonable grounding in English should read and interprete the meaning that you intend to convey.

If anyone is playing with semantics it seems that you are incapable of even attempting to use the English in it simplest and most basic form.

Is this any fault of mine when you print the words as shown, and expect anyone to interprete the same in the manner that you did ?

You are certainly absurd in putting the blame on someone when you have committed a simple juvenile error of carelessness.

Or could this be your slimey ways in posting dishonest views of an honest event ?

You certainly has a long way to go before the God Father's shoes fit you. Juvenile.

James Gomez is still liar, dishonest MM Lee replied by eagle @ Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:06:33 +0800

eagle — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:06:33 +0800

Originally posted by Point_blank:

Eagle, don't make me. It is not in my nature to thrash a smaller opponent, let alone a simpleton. I would rather let you rant and seem big. But make no mistake, if i have to, the record will show you were asking for it.

You must be joking. The record is still you were unable to handle logic. Anyway you have already lost all credibility. Do bring out the records. I challenge you to bring out the history of our exchanges in this thread, and throw it to the floor for judging.

James Gomez is still liar, dishonest MM Lee replied by Point_blank @ Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:23:57 +0800

Point_blank — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:23:57 +0800

Originally posted by Atobe:

Am I the one lacking in decency to admit maliciousl mistakes, misconception, and blind irrationality even when presented the truth ?

Did I twist the facts to suit my argument ?

Am I willfully blind or as mentally challenged as you claimed ?

How ironical for you to ask me these, when these are the perfect questions that I should have posed to you - as it has been your constantly being exposed for your 'Point_blank' arguments, and yet you persist with your useless positions, only to be frustrated and agitated further by sinking deeper into juvenile vulgarity with each reply.

In your post on Page 3 of this thread - dated 2 June 2008 10.44AM you did post the following:

In your statement made and made bold, with the underscoring of the essential part - did you make clear if MP Low who read the statement of apology, or did he STOOD BESIDE 'Slimey James' who read a prepared legal drafted statement of apology ?

Do I need to twist your words, or were the words so poorly placed for anyone to discern which is what, or who did what ?

If MP Low read the prepared text - did it include the essential words that said -

"I, Low Thia Kiang, MP of Hougang Constitutency, Secretary-General of the Workers' Party, do offer my PERSONAL APOLOGY for the statements made by James Gomez" ... ?

What was the text of his apology that you failed to include despite your dubious diligence at accurately recording ad verbatim the events in Election 2006 ?

With your displayed ability to be so articulate with vulgar words and such accuracy in its spelling, surely we can depend on your for some accuracy in reporting more in details for you to substantiate your claim ?

Another 'Point_blank' juvenile effort that went blank ?

Asswipe, don't chicken out and argue based on semantics. For all the crap you spew, FACTS ARE FACTS. As i had guessed, you would sacrifice WP for your own ego and ends by claiming now MP Low TK did not apologise.

How low can you go, asswipe?

Are you helping the opposition or killing them further with your kind of atrocious and malicious attitude, type that the People most fear of trusting?

James Gomez is still liar, dishonest MM Lee replied by Atobe @ Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:16:35 +0800

Atobe — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:16:35 +0800

Originally posted by Point_blank:

ASSWIPE ATOBE, don't you even have the decency to admit your malicious mistake, misconceptions and blind irrationality even when presented the truth. Do you need psychology help or you insist on being wilfully idiotic here?

For your benefit, i repost again in reply to your question posed to me, which i at least never evade, but you, using arrogance to cover ignorance, big words, seductive lies, non-commital questions, to fool people over to your egoistical stupid side.

And when confronted with you truth, you twist your words again. You are nothing but a word whore, asswipe Atobe. Trust? only fools will trust you. Whip me? lol! You must be deluded!

Asswipe Atobe, I was at the WP rally on 29th April 2006 at Nee Soon East. MP Low TK stood beside Slimey James who read a prepared legal drafted statement of apology, address to the crowd and media.

MP Low TK then, flanked by the election hustings and paraphanelia of his party, addressed the crowd, in mandarin:-
"After the unpleasant incident between Gomez and the Election Dept, I asked Mr Gomez about the details leading to and following the incident. I think this was the PAP’s making a mountain out of a molehill. Of course, I am responsible, no problem..."

Is this an apology to us, Singaporeans, enough? Are you claiming MP Low is not assuring the citizens of an error that had occured by a member of his party? He being 'responsible' was a political dirty trick to the crowd to calm them? BUT WAIT! You will claim it is not an apology, simply because you will be willing to sacrifice WP for your own ego and ends.

Why go to the ELD office if not to file and submit the certificate? If Slimey james claims he is busy, why go there in the first place? Honest mistake? lol! what does he take us all for, fools like you, Asswipe Atobe? And why apologise to the country if he did not admit he had done wrong?

So did i change the facts, or had I once again proven your despical attempts to change facts to suit your pathetic ego? I had consistantly provided evidences to back my claims, yet you continue to talk crap and evade backing up your allegations, are you mentally challenged and need psychology help?

You are as willfully blind as you are mentally challenged, Asswipe Atobe!

Am I the one lacking in decency to admit maliciousl mistakes, misconception, and blind irrationality even when presented the truth ?

Did I twist the facts to suit my argument ?

Am I willfully blind or as mentally challenged as you claimed ?

How ironical for you to ask me these, when these are the perfect questions that I should have posed to you - as it has been your constantly being exposed for your 'Point_blank' arguments, and yet you persist with your useless positions, only to be frustrated and agitated further by sinking deeper into juvenile vulgarity with each reply.

In your post on Page 3 of this thread - dated 2 June 2008 10.44AM you did post the following:

Originally posted by Point_blank:

Asswipe Atobe, I was at the WP rally on 29th April 2006 at Nee Soon East. MP Low TK stood beside Slimey James who read a prepared legal drafted statement of apology, address to the crowd and media.

MP Low TK then, flanked by the election hustings and paraphanelia of his party, addressed the crowd, in mandarin:-
"After the unpleasant incident between Gomez and the Election Dept, I asked Mr Gomez about the details leading to and following the incident. I think this was the PAP’s making a mountain out of a molehill. Of course, I am responsible, no problem..."

In your statement made and which I have highlighted in bold, with the underscoring of the essential part - did you make clear if MP Low had read the statement of apology, or did he STOOD BESIDE 'Slimey James' who read a prepared legal drafted statement of apology ?

Do I need to twist your words, or were the words so poorly placed for anyone to discern which is what, or who did what ?

If MP Low read the prepared text - did it include the essential words that said -

"I, Low Thia Kiang, MP of Hougang Constitutency, Secretary-General of the Workers' Party, do offer my PERSONAL APOLOGY for the statements made by James Gomez" ... ?

What was the text of his apology that you failed to include despite your dubious diligence at accurately recording ad verbatim the events in Election 2006 ?

With your displayed ability to be so articulate with vulgar words and such accuracy in its spelling, surely we can depend on your for some accuracy in reporting more in details for you to substantiate your claim ?

Another 'Point_blank' juvenile effort that went blank ?

James Gomez is still liar, dishonest MM Lee replied by Point_blank @ Tue, 03 Jun 2008 10:20:57 +0800

Point_blank — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 10:20:57 +0800

Originally posted by eagle:

We continue to see this hypocrite being insistent on practicing his 'double standards' policy, whom having made an illogical comparison between the Gomez case and Mas Selamat case,

1) "don't even have the decency to admit [his] malicious mistake, misconceptions and blind irrationality"
2) "[use] arrogance to cover ignorance, big words, seductive lies, non-commital questions, to fool people "
3) "when confronted with [the] truth, [he] twist [his] words again"

Really pathetic

Eagle, don't make me. It is not in my nature to thrash a smaller opponent, let alone a simpleton. I would rather let you rant and seem big. But make no mistake, if i have to, the record will show you were asking for it.

James Gomez is still liar, dishonest MM Lee replied by maurizio13 @ Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:48:29 +0800

maurizio13 — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:48:29 +0800

Originally posted by Point_blank:

How did you arrive at such a conclusion?

Do you have anything inbetween your ears? Or were you born without a brain?

James Gomez is still liar, dishonest MM Lee replied by eagle @ Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:46:29 +0800

eagle — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:46:29 +0800

don't you even have the decency to admit your malicious mistake, misconceptions and blind irrationality even when presented the truth.

using arrogance to cover ignorance, big words, seductive lies, non-commital questions, to fool people

And when confronted with you truth, you twist your words again

We continue to see this hypocrite being insistent on practicing his 'double standards' policy, whom having made an illogical comparison between the Gomez case and Mas Selamat case,

1) "don't even have the decency to admit [his] malicious mistake, misconceptions and blind irrationality"
2) "[use] arrogance to cover ignorance, big words, seductive lies, non-commital questions, to fool people "
3) "when confronted with [the] truth, [he] twist [his] words again"

Really pathetic

James Gomez is still liar, dishonest MM Lee replied by Point_blank @ Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:36:14 +0800

Point_blank — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:36:14 +0800

How did you arrive at such a conclusion?

Do you have anything inbetween your ears? Or were you born without a brain?

James Gomez is still liar, dishonest MM Lee replied by SBS7484P @ Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:21:36 +0800

SBS7484P — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:21:36 +0800

aelop clone............................

James Gomez is still liar, dishonest MM Lee replied by Point_blank @ Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:18:45 +0800

Point_blank — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:18:45 +0800

Originally posted by Atobe:

Amazing how desparation can produce thwarted impressions to save your thin skin ass or arse from getting swiped - again, and again, and again, and again.

Amazing that you were at the WP rally during Election 2006, and yet you mention every word so clearly - and you can quote him in full after the passing of 2 years {?}

""After the unpleasant incident between Gomez and the Election Dept, I asked Mr Gomez about the details leading to and following the incident. I think this was the PAP’s making a mountain out of a molehill. Of course, I am responsible, no problem..."

Given your abilities that have been proven repeatedly to be ''Point_blank" - as well as ''Point_blank dishonest'' - can we trust you any further with the accuracy and interpretation of the events that transpired two years ago

From the piece of statement that you quoted - and which you attribute to be from WP Low Thia Kiang - where is the essential words that clearly state that

"I, Low Thia Kiang, sincerely apologise for the errors of Mr James Gomez" ?

You were diligent in underscoring his line, but was that a clear apology ?

Are you not being very slimey in the way you snake through the words that are said to be made by others ?

Another argumentative ''point'' from you that has been shown to come to another ''blank" ?

Do we need to argue your other naively thought-out reasons for James Gomez attendance at the ELD, etc, etc, etc, etc - that will surely expose your true slimey nature that has been confirmed by your sheer 'Point_blank' dishonesty ?

You are no better then an ''ASS'' - whose ''arse'' has been consistently swiped by yours truly - could this have affected your brains so badly that you cannot see things straight, but only in blanks ?

Grow up, and stop being a juvenile twirp if you think you can fit your God Father's shoes that probably fit your pompous head more then your feet.

ASSWIPE ATOBE, don't you even have the decency to admit your malicious mistake, misconceptions and blind irrationality even when presented the truth. Do you need psychology help or you insist on being wilfully idiotic here?

For your benefit, i repost again in reply to your question posed to me, which i at least never evade, but you, using arrogance to cover ignorance, big words, seductive lies, non-commital questions, to fool people over to your egoistical stupid side.

And when confronted with you truth, you twist your words again. You are nothing but a word whore, asswipe Atobe. Trust? only fools will trust you. Whip me? lol! You must be deluded!

Asswipe Atobe, I was at the WP rally on 29th April 2006 at Nee Soon East. MP Low TK stood beside Slimey James who read a prepared legal drafted statement of apology, address to the crowd and media.

MP Low TK then, flanked by the election hustings and paraphanelia of his party, addressed the crowd, in mandarin:-
"After the unpleasant incident between Gomez and the Election Dept, I asked Mr Gomez about the details leading to and following the incident. I think this was the PAP’s making a mountain out of a molehill. Of course, I am responsible, no problem..."

Is this an apology to us, Singaporeans, enough? Are you claiming MP Low is not assuring the citizens of an error that had occured by a member of his party? He being 'responsible' was a political dirty trick to the crowd to calm them? BUT WAIT! You will claim it is not an apology, simply because you will be willing to sacrifice WP for your own ego and ends.

Why go to the ELD office if not to file and submit the certificate? If Slimey james claims he is busy, why go there in the first place? Honest mistake? lol! what does he take us all for, fools like you, Asswipe Atobe? And why apologise to the country if he did not admit he had done wrong?

So did i change the facts, or had I once again proven your despical attempts to change facts to suit your pathetic ego? I had consistantly provided evidences to back my claims, yet you continue to talk crap and evade backing up your allegations, are you mentally challenged and need psychology help?

You are as willfully blind as you are mentally challenged, Asswipe Atobe!

James Gomez is still liar, dishonest MM Lee replied by eagle @ Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:02:28 +0800

eagle — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:02:28 +0800

Originally posted by abao:

LOL. Let those trolls die off by themselves :lol::lol:

This is their happy face:

James Gomez is still liar, dishonest MM Lee replied by abao @ Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:59:58 +0800

abao — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:59:58 +0800

Originally posted by eagle:

It's interesting how only the new posters give this illogical hypocrite support

LOL. Let those trolls die off by themselves :lol::lol:

James Gomez is still liar, dishonest MM Lee replied by eagle @ Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:34:52 +0800

eagle — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:34:52 +0800

Originally posted by charlize:

Welcome, welcome new posters.

Sgforums is getting more popular by the day.

It's interesting how only the new posters give this illogical hypocrite support

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