PAP ruling SG for 49 years!!Cheer!! replied by Tianxiawudi @ Sat, 07 Jun 2008 12:29:24 +0800

Tianxiawudi — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 12:29:24 +0800

What I see are three forces in play:

1. Change resisters;

2. Change seekers; and

3. Change procrastinators.

As mentioned earlier, those who enjoy specific returns, especially those who stand to reap benefits from the current status quo, will practically resist any innovation that threatens their power-hold and therefore property rights that bring large rewards; be it real or apparent. They are prone to ignore the developments and changes in their environment that demand innovations, particularly those that will result in a redistribution of powers and rewards; especially if those changes are initiated by the change seekers that form the significant others within the society. However, this withholding and denial of changes inevitably develops into a blindness that subjects the bureau to considerable inertia.

Malaysia is a good example. Umno’s inertia led to the development of blindness and arrogance; and despite clear signs of deterioration in its support base and demand for more equitable treatment amongst the masses, it took no action to remedy those faults. Years of manipulative politics had led Umno to the belief that it is indispensable and the people cannot survive without it. However, the recent election results spoke otherwise; rudely awakening them from their sweet dreams. Thence, corrective actions were taken but only to be proven faulty as problems kept multiplying and thereby putting the coalition in a stage of crisis.

Change resisters may suppress the need for innovations for only a limited period of time, even if attempts to eliminate change seekers are undertaken, it still does not produce an elixir that accords eternality. External pressure will proliferate under unavoidable factors such as demographic and socio-political changes that eventually even the change procrastinators will find that aversion is no longer a means of survival and they will be coerced into coalescing the change seekers. Ultimately, the scenario as depicted by Michael Young in his famous work “The Rise of Meritocracy” materializes. Social and political conflicts will reach irreparable heights that a new order will replace the old with much wounds to heal. The old Chinese saying has it that there is "no everlasting dynasty".

PAP ruling SG for 49 years!!Cheer!! replied by SingaporeTyrannosaur @ Sat, 07 Jun 2008 02:50:39 +0800

SingaporeTyrannosaur — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 02:50:39 +0800

more clones?

PAP ruling SG for 49 years!!Cheer!! replied by Hd88tv @ Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:49:03 +0800

Hd88tv — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:49:03 +0800

More GST increases

More pay raise for govt

More SG Inc GST Tax surpluses collected from poor citizens

More hidden taxes like TV license, 30% water tax, etc

Be prepare to Pay And Pay

PAP ruling SG for 49 years!!Cheer!! replied by Civilgoh @ Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:47:27 +0800

Civilgoh — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:47:27 +0800

Originally posted by Spartans:

One vital ingredient for a change is a strong, well-supported and organised Opposition party.

However, from the look today, only Workers Party is capable of doing so.

I thought so too in the past, but now I think they are just interested to be present just as opposition party in parliament and nothing more than that.

PAP ruling SG for 49 years!!Cheer!! replied by Spartans @ Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:45:11 +0800

Spartans — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:45:11 +0800

Originally posted by Civilgoh:

I, too, don't forsee there is going to be much change in the next election. Though there are much talk about how the govt is running the country, many are still conservative and fearful to do anything to allow change.

It is not impossible for a change of political party in running of this country, but it is going to take a long time before a new political party will take over from the ruling party. People here just simply lack commitment to fight for what they deserve and want.

One vital ingredient for a change is a strong, well-supported and organised Opposition party.

However, from the look today, only Workers Party is capable of doing so.

PAP ruling SG for 49 years!!Cheer!! replied by Civilgoh @ Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:40:47 +0800

Civilgoh — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:40:47 +0800

I, too, don't forsee there is going to be much change in the next election. Though there are much talk about how the govt is running the country, many are still conservative and fearful to do anything to allow change.

It is not impossible for a change of political party in running of this country, but it is going to take a long time before a new political party will take over from the ruling party. People here just simply lack commitment to fight for what they deserve and want.

PAP ruling SG for 49 years!!Cheer!! replied by Spartans @ Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:34:36 +0800

Spartans — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:34:36 +0800

Originally posted by Civilgoh:

No deny about their contribution, LKY's contribution. However, a political party can't always base on the past results and claim credit all to themselves. Without the people who vote for them, they are nothing.

Indeed.

I detest watching how the young generation of PAP members, such as LHL, used the contributions of the older generations of PAP members during the election.

The ones who are running for election is LHL and his team, NOT the old PAP generations who had done so well for Singapore.

PAP ruling SG for 49 years!!Cheer!! replied by balance_else_complacent @ Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:29:38 +0800

balance_else_complacent — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:29:38 +0800

The people are as apathetic as 40 years ago.

I do not foresee much change in the next elerction given that it is around 3.5 years away. That is very short time for change.

Having said this, I must and can only say, this will be 'good good' lor. what do you think I will say?

This forum is very well-known Not! to most young working poreans I spoke to.

They are oblivious about the on-goings like GN, Chee, the 1 nat under L vid and Cath Lim and her blog and views and vid, TOC, the Yawning Bread and I would not mind mentioning Kum S K blog and of course Sammyboy , Mr Brown and HWzone.

How much facts do the youths really know?

Is there sense of Justice and Righteousness in today's Youths?

Are people too Pragmatic to the extent of being merc?

Not that I support Chee or SDP, but having read his final speech in the court, I say that I believe Chee is really not acting.

I have too much respect for this guy now. I used to also suspicious that he is acting and weird. It takes time to understand Brilliant people . His linguistic ability is stunning. More impressive is his never say die spirit which i think religion has a part to play.

Having said the above, I must say that this does not prove I am anti-incumbent.

For all you know, I may be supporting the incumbents to improve. Dah shi teng , mah shi ai.

No one will ever know who I support. For my personal wellbeing, I must keep this a secret.

PAP ruling SG for 49 years!!Cheer!! replied by Civilgoh @ Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:27:11 +0800

Civilgoh — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:27:11 +0800

Originally posted by Spartans:

But he is not Gazelle.

PAP has done a lot for Singapore for the past 40 years. However, time has come for a need to change.

No deny about their contribution, LKY's contribution. However, a political party can't always base on the past results and claim credit all to themselves. Without the people who vote for them, they are nothing.

PAP ruling SG for 49 years!!Cheer!! replied by Spartans @ Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:15:58 +0800

Spartans — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:15:58 +0800

Originally posted by Civilgoh:

Threadstarter is an ardent supporter of PAP.

But he is not Gazelle.

PAP has done a lot for Singapore for the past 40 years. However, time has come for a need to change.

PAP ruling SG for 49 years!!Cheer!! replied by Civilgoh @ Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:13:55 +0800

Civilgoh — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:13:55 +0800

Threadstarter is an ardent supporter of PAP.

PAP ruling SG for 49 years!!Cheer!! replied by kiekergaard @ Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:02:57 +0800

kiekergaard — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:02:57 +0800

I yawned at the anal nitpicking on terms. A dictator by any other name is still a dictator.

Archaic definitions aside, I wonder what good this thread does. Is there a reason for reminding us of such a thing? What benefits does making such a thread gives, one wonders.

One also wonders what kind of school of thought threadstarter adheres to and whether ts is genuinely obtuse/blind or just purposely being a troll.

I eat trolls for breakfast. Yum yum.

PAP ruling SG for 49 years!!Cheer!! replied by Hawk Eye @ Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:45:52 +0800

Hawk Eye — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:45:52 +0800

WTF???

They cheated (ruled) us for 49 yrs ah?

Make the 50th year the last!

PAP ruling SG for 49 years!!Cheer!! replied by LazerLordz @ Fri, 06 Jun 2008 02:31:35 +0800

LazerLordz — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 02:31:35 +0800

Originally posted by Tianxiawudi:

(1) that the voters had endorsed and adopted it as legitimate and good; or

(2) that the voters are suffering from political deindividuation.

Situation 1 tends to foster a climate for 2, if and where there is little perceived avenue for independent analysis of an "experienced" climate of messages and communication that are geared towards diffusion of opinions backing the concept of legitimacy.

It is also evident that depoliticisation is also entrenched and comprehensively adopted through various schemes that are influential from formative years of a citizen.

PAP ruling SG for 49 years!!Cheer!! replied by Tianxiawudi @ Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:41:14 +0800

Tianxiawudi — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:41:14 +0800

Look at things from a business perspective, maybe that will make you feel better. When one considers himself to be the pioneer in the market, he damn wishes to dominate the market, if not to monopolize it eternally. But when competition creeps up, it calls for innovation, and some takes it to mean “whatever it takes to win”. This gives rise to social conflicts that were insofar best defined by Karl. You may find it morally repulsive, but others, especially those who get to share a bite of the cake without having to subject to public approval and/or endorsement would think that it is their entitlement. However, as you have mentioned, that the game-rule had been in place for some 20 years and still existing, then there can only be two possibilities:

(1) that the voters had endorsed and adopted it as legitimate and good; or

(2) that the voters are suffering from political deindividuation.

PAP ruling SG for 49 years!!Cheer!! replied by eagle @ Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:11:44 +0800

eagle — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:11:44 +0800

Originally posted by lionnoisy:

In 1988, the ruling People's Action Party amended the Parliamentary Elections Act to create GRCs and to move away from the single member constituency system. GRCs started out at a size of 3 in 1988 but have steadily grown bigger in subsequent elections.

The current act enables the President, who is generally under advice of the Elections Department, to create a GRC from 3 to 6 electoral wards. In each GRC, at least one candidate or MP must be from a minority race — either a Malay, Indian or Other. The lack of transparent separation of powers between the Elections Department and the ruling party has led the opposition to accuse the government of gerrymandering.

GRCs operate with a plurality voting system, meaning that the party with the largest share of votes wins all seats in the GRC. (This means that even with a one-vote plurarity or majority, the winning team gets to win the whole GRC.) All Singaporean GRCs have had a People's Action Party (PAP) base. Some opposition parties have won seats in SMCs, but never in a GRC.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_Representation_Constituency

PAP ruling SG for 49 years!!Cheer!! replied by Tianxiawudi @ Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:07:50 +0800

Tianxiawudi — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:07:50 +0800

Thank you for your correction, brother eagle.

PAP ruling SG for 49 years!!Cheer!! replied by eagle @ Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:06:15 +0800

eagle — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:06:15 +0800

49 years ruling with 20 years of GRC!

PAP ruling SG for 49 years!!Cheer!! replied by Tianxiawudi @ Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:01:36 +0800

Tianxiawudi — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:01:36 +0800

Dun ask your ah kong to explain to her, later my Ah kong very jealous and sad.

Mmmm….I sincerely apologize to your Ah Kong for my insensitivity. After 45 years of soaking in a culture that meanings are often inferred into plain sentences, it must logically follow that the same would apply to plain socialization. This mistake is mine.

PAP ruling SG for 49 years!!Cheer!! replied by Tianxiawudi @ Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:53:38 +0800

Tianxiawudi — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:53:38 +0800

Singapore politics is very simple, it just PAP, PAP and PAP from my kindergarden to U.

I am agreeable and have no quarrel with that. Political freedom including political bargaining and negotiation came to an end as early as in 1959 whence the freedom of choice in economic, social, and political arenas were utterly erased; thereby putting an end to pluralistic liberal democracy and open negotiations between competing parties. There is no doubt why you hear only “just PAP, PAP and PAP from my kindergarden to U” (and you should be glad to be envied by many, including me, to be able to receive your tertiary education); and many thanks to our propagandized local media too. Therefore, borrowing from Mahatma Gandhi, if you want changes then “(you) must be the change (you) want to see in the world”.

PAP ruling SG for 49 years!!Cheer!! replied by Hogzilla @ Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:34:21 +0800

Hogzilla — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:34:21 +0800

Originally posted by angel7030:

Singapore politics is very simple, it just PAP, PAP and PAP from my kindergarden to U.

Dun ask your ah kong to explain to her, later my Ah kong very jealous and sad.

No wonder I cannot get into NTU or NUS. Because my parents support the oppositions....

T_T

PAP ruling SG for 49 years!!Cheer!! replied by angel7030 @ Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:51:30 +0800

angel7030 — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:51:30 +0800

Originally posted by Tianxiawudi:

Use simple english. My ah ma cannot understand you. She said if you are one of the candidate in the election, you sure lost.

Fine, maybe I can get my Ah Kong to explain to her later. And a toss? Loosing can at times invoke much sensation.

Singapore politics is very simple, it just PAP, PAP and PAP from my kindergarden to U.

Dun ask your ah kong to explain to her, later my Ah kong very jealous and sad.

PAP ruling SG for 49 years!!Cheer!! replied by Tianxiawudi @ Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:48:57 +0800

Tianxiawudi — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:48:57 +0800

Use simple english. My ah ma cannot understand you. She said if you are one of the candidate in the election, you sure lost.

Be simple ya

Fine, maybe I can get my Ah Kong to explain to her later. And a toss? Loosing can at times invoke much sensation.

PAP ruling SG for 49 years!!Cheer!! replied by angel7030 @ Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:35:13 +0800

angel7030 — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:35:13 +0800

Originally posted by Tianxiawudi:

Brother, using words like "to rule" or "to govern" are semantically archaic and rhetorical. In a true democracy, these volcabularies are as odd and out of place as self-proclaimed elitism. It would be ironical or seemingly unimaginable that any person in a stable state of mind would vote to be dominated by another saved that of fumblemindedness. People elect their "representatives" (and not rulers or governors) to serve their interests on the macro-level, but the risk of slipping into self-voluntary slavery is eminent and real if they are intellectually feeble. As a result thereof, we will see an inversion of wit and folly.

Use simple english. My ah ma cannot understand you. She said if you are one of the candidate in the election, you sure lost.

Be simple ya

PAP ruling SG for 49 years!!Cheer!! replied by Tianxiawudi @ Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:16:02 +0800

Tianxiawudi — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:16:02 +0800

Brother, using words like "to rule" or "to govern" are semantically archaic and rhetorical. In a true democracy, these volcabularies are as odd and out of place as self-proclaimed elitism. It would be ironical or seemingly unimaginable that any person in a stable state of mind would vote to be dominated by another saved that of fumblemindedness. People elect their "representatives" (and not rulers or governors) to serve their interests on the macro-level, but the risk of slipping into self-voluntary slavery is eminent and real if they are intellectually feeble. As a result thereof, we will see an inversion of wit and folly.

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