Tharman says S’pore not headed for a recession replied by Atobe @ Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:05:18 +0800

Atobe — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:05:18 +0800

Originally posted by Bentsb05:

deerhunter,

we can all see that, obviously he has very shallow views on subject matters like this, to him trade has to be a win-lose situation, failing to see the wider, wholesome picture.......we can gain insight into the man by reading his postings and the comical way he argues without any reliable references. ....afterall these have been the pathectic state of critics here, a lot of self views, distortion of facts but with little references of credibility (wish they can let us refer to some credible sources in their postings to back up)......just take all these as the enchanting bedtime stories by some illusionists lah

Originally posted by £Ĭ€ڰ:

x2

The June sock-puppets seems to be rabidly replicating itself to support the failed master copy that is helplessly struggling to redeem a poorly planned adventure - which is based on some false and untenable political idiot-logy learnt erroneously by bastardising the facts in some regurgitated forms.

Tharman says S’pore not headed for a recession replied by £Ĭ€ڰ @ Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:58:28 +0800

£Ĭ€ڰ — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:58:28 +0800

Originally posted by Bentsb05:

deerhunter,

we can all see that, obviously he has very shallow views on subject matters like this, to him trade has to be a win-lose situation, failing to see the wider, wholesome picture.......we can gain insight into the man by reading his postings and the comical way he argues without any reliable references. ....afterall these have been the pathectic state of critics here, a lot of self views, distortion of facts but with little references of credibility (wish they can let us refer to some credible sources in their postings to back up)......just take all these as the enchanting bedtime stories by some illusionists lah

Tharman says S’pore not headed for a recession replied by Atobe @ Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:30:08 +0800

Atobe — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:30:08 +0800

Originally posted by DeerHunter:

As usual, what can one expect from a village idiot like you Atobe? If you refuse to learn but continue to talk rubbish and heap insults, it is your loss, not mine. Have fun back your rubbish bin.

Hahahaha.... the Great Mentor Shepherd will love to see the Hunter turned into a Prey.

Has the DeerHunter become a meek deer ?

Tsk,tsk,tsk,tsk... resorting to insults will get you no where when you are playing to your larger audience in this Speakers' Corner.

Are you not ashamed at being trounced by one whom you will disrespectfully call a Village idiot ?

How ironical that you cannot even protect your political idiot-logy with your over glorifed claim as a DeerHunter with a wimp gun ?

The $27 gargabe bin is waiting and will provide your the warmth to sulk and regain your composure to respond to the other threads that you have left, and attempt to plagiarise my style and words - {that you claim to be half-baked} - to attack others.

Tharman says S’pore not headed for a recession replied by DeerHunter @ Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:10:54 +0800

DeerHunter — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:10:54 +0800

Originally posted by Atobe:

Only a DeerHunter will attempt unlicensed buskering acts in this Speakers' Corner, with a never failing efforts to hustle public opinions to reinforce a weak position.

Have conveniently forgotten that China's population is not your Population of 1, and if you can get a bulk discount for purchasing 3 chairs - why did you not include any bulk discounts demanded by China for the bulk purchase of the tables that you produce ?

Your example is only an analogy of a perfect market that only exist in your own fantasy to reinforce a juvenile view of a tougher business world.

Can you be the only person manufacturing the table, when China has the ability to make chairs - do you think they cannot make the table any better than you ?

Why will Indonesia or Australia purchase from you when they can make direct purchase and other deals direct with China - and with the types of commodities needed by China that China will surely desire without going through another layer in the distribution chain of middle-men like you ?

Do you think that the World revolves around the Middle Kingdom only ?

Have you conveniently forgotten the evolution of mankind before the complexities of trade was even known ?

Now that you have displayed your vanity in a hollow fantasy of a perfect world, do you know the costs of inventories of raw materials and finished products before orders are confirmed and the distribution is effected ?

Have you considered the high costs of land and labor in Singapore - as well the other factors of competition from cheaper alternative sources available to China that will give them room to negotiate and drive your prices even lower ?

Is it not simply BS that the bank will provide the capital to any start-up ?

Was CSJ given the political space even to make his moves without LKY claiming that damages for his own self-inflicted injury to his pride and ego ?

Can LKY have the idiocy of a DeerHunter to develop such a business model that is based on pure fantasy ?

Was this the cause for the failure of the Suzhou Industrial Park - and over-assumption of the perfect business model that fell apart simply due to over-reaching oneself ?

How conceited a DeerHunter can you be to believe that the poor are never a target market to earn money from ?

Where were you on August 2007, when it was reported that a Mexican by the name of ‘Carlos Slim – son of a Mexican storekeeper - is the World Richest Person’ - and his captive markets were the poorer Mexicans than the northern gringos in the USA ?

The only thing that people need - in good or bad times - is food, as it is the single and most important resource for one's survival.

Can global trade continue when the world is in recession - as in a Global Meltdown similar to the World Depression in the early 1900s ?

Do you know how your grand-parents and parents survived during the Great Depression before WW-1; and the conditions that caused the Global Trade to suffer during WW-2 ?

Surely you do not expect your audience to have minds that think like a Deer, and waiting blindly to get shock by an impotent flashy DeerHunter ?

Are you still disputing my stated position with your lame understanding of the Global Trade ?

Have you conveniently mixed up your Bilateral Trade with the Entrepot Trade in your fantasy analogy of an ideal Global Trade environment ?

Incidentally, do you expect anyone to know what your ''prize'' is for the various car makes that you have brilliantly given that is causing further opportunities to castrate you with ?

Do you seriously expect anyone to understand the workings of a retarded DeerHunter's mind when reading your ''Prize'' as stated by you - when you did not even make clear which currency or source of your article that you have depended for your argument ?

Thank God for only one foolish DeerHunter - so if you wish to

Will you be honest enough to be impartial again, and perhaps even attempt to get a free subscription to read the continuing details of this work ?

As usual, what can one expect from a village idiot like you Atobe? If you refuse to learn but continue to talk rubbish and heap insults, it is your loss, not mine. Have fun back your rubbish bin.

Tharman says S’pore not headed for a recession replied by Arapahoe @ Wed, 18 Jun 2008 06:53:09 +0800

Arapahoe — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 06:53:09 +0800

Originally posted by HyperFocal:

Singapore's key exports down 10.5% in May on-year
Posted: 17 June 2008 1528 hrs

SINGAPORE - Singapore's key exports fell 10.5 percent in May compared with a year earlier, with pharmaceutical shipments down nearly half amid lower exports to the United States and Europe, the government said on Tuesday.

The fall in non-oil domestic exports (NODX) was the largest since December 2006 when they dropped 14 percent, Fortis Bank economist Joseph Tan told Dow Jones Newswires.

NODX fell in May after a 5.3 percent gain in April, said the trade promotion body, International Enterprise (IE) Singapore.

On a month-on-month seasonally adjusted basis, NODX dropped 9.8 percent last month, compared with a gain of 1.6 percent in April, it said.

That fall was much greater than the 0.4 percent drop forecast in a poll of economists by Dow Jones Newswires.

"The degree of weakness (for Singapore) is pretty striking," Robert Prior-Wandesforde, an economist at HSBC in Singapore, said. "Most other countries in Asia have seen exports pick up over the last few months."

IE Singapore said NODX to the European Union dropped 28.0 percent year-on-year in May after a 16.8 percent rise the previous month, while shipments to the United States fell 22.3 percent, exceeding the 16.9 percent drop in April.

Singapore's export-reliant economy grew slower than estimated in the year's first quarter, at 6.7 percent, as demand weakened due to a slowdown in the United States and other key markets, the government said last month.

The country's de facto central bank in April said it had further tightened monetary policy in a bid to address a sharp rise in inflation. The bank's move sent the local dollar to record highs, making exports more costly for buyers.

Monthly NODX figures are a closely watched barometer of the health of Singapore's economy.

Non-electronic shipments shrank by 11.8 percent, led by pharmaceuticals, which dropped 48.5 percent compared with the same month a year earlier, IE Singapore said.

Domestic exports of electronic goods continued the decline started in February last year with a further shrinkage of 8.5 percent overall. The consumer electronics segment was down 30.6 percent, IE Singapore said.

"With the harsh reality of a US-led slowdown in demand weighing on export performance, the manufacturing sector will need to brace itself for the difficult times ahead," DBS Group Research said ahead of the data release.

Total trade rose 15.6 percent to S$78.6 billion, compared with 21.2 percent growth in April, IE Singapore said.

The government of Singapore, Southeast Asia's most advanced economy, has stuck to its full-year GDP growth estimate of four to six percent. - AFP/ir

I thought that was a bigger number than expected.

Tharman says S’pore not headed for a recession replied by Atobe @ Wed, 18 Jun 2008 06:39:15 +0800

Atobe — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 06:39:15 +0800

Originally posted by DeerHunter:

China Singapore Bilateral Trade made simple:-

This post is for the benefit of readers to discern facts from half truths and lies. Simple analogies would be used for simpler understanding, for village idiots like Atobe still exists in Singapore.

Only a DeerHunter will attempt unlicensed buskering acts in this Speakers' Corner, with a never failing efforts to hustle public opinions to reinforce a weak position.

1.Imports and Exports

----------------------------

A. ) Exports to China:

I purchase materials, made a table and exported it to China. China pays me S$43 dollars.

B.) Import from China:-

I saw online China had 3 chairs to sell. I don't need 3 chairs, as i am only 1 person, but there is a bulk discount if i buy all 3. So I paid S$48 dollars for all 3 chairs. I kept 1 and sold the other 2 to Indonesia and Australia, countries further away at a slightly higher price from me for a profit.

On paper, it looks like I paid $5 more than i buy from China. But in actual fact, i didn't, for i don't need so many chairs as i am only a population of 1. I sold the other 2 China chair and made a small profit.

Multiply those chair a billion times and you will see how important bilateral trade with the factory of the world is to our entreport country.

Have conveniently forgotten that China's population is not your Population of 1, and if you can get a bulk discount for purchasing 3 chairs - why did you not include any bulk discounts demanded by China for the bulk purchase of the tables that you produce ?

Your example is only an analogy of a perfect market that only exist in your own fantasy to reinforce a juvenile view of a tougher business world.

Can you be the only person manufacturing the table, when China has the ability to make chairs - do you think they cannot make the table any better than you ?

Why will Indonesia or Australia purchase from you when they can make direct purchase and other deals direct with China - and with the types of commodities needed by China that China will surely desire without going through another layer in the distribution chain of middle-men like you ?

B. Service and support for trade

--------------------------------------

To make those table, i would need wood, glue, nails, tools, varnish, banks to give me capital, factory space, exports agents, etc. These are the organisations that facilitate my trade. They gain as well, for i have to pay for such services, which i will include into my costings for the S$43 table i sold to China.

Now multiply the level of support for my trade in billions and you will see how much it had benefitted the supporting industries. IF there is no China trade, factory of the world, can you imagine how many people would be out of job?

Do you think that the World revolves around the Middle Kingdom only ?

Have you conveniently forgotten the evolution of mankind before the complexities of trade was even known ?

Now that you have displayed your vanity in a hollow fantasy of a perfect world, do you know the costs of inventories of raw materials and finished products before orders are confirmed and the distribution is effected ?

Have you considered the high costs of land and labor in Singapore - as well the other factors of competition from cheaper alternative sources available to China that will give them room to negotiate and drive your prices even lower ?

Is it not simply BS that the bank will provide the capital to any start-up ?

And this businessmodel is what the govt is attempting to replicate in modern Russia. What had CSJ and the political opposition done except to waste time, cast slander and maligned the honour of our super salesmen who are scouting the world for opportunites for us citizens so that we can put food on the table for our kids

Was CSJ given the political space even to make his moves without LKY claiming that damages for his own self-inflicted injury to his pride and ego ?

Can LKY have the idiocy of a DeerHunter to develop such a business model that is based on pure fantasy ?

Was this the cause for the failure of the Suzhou Industrial Park - and over-assumption of the perfect business model that fell apart simply due to over-reaching oneself ?

No matter how high or low the volume of trade becomes even in recession times, there will always be trade, for there will always be something people will need and people will produce. No country is self-sufficient, except the poor. But then they are never a target market to earn money from.

How conceited a DeerHunter can you be to believe that the poor are never a target market to earn money from ?

Where were you on August 2007, when it was reported that a Mexican by the name of ‘Carlos Slim – son of a Mexican storekeeper - is the World Richest Person’ - and his captive markets were the poorer Mexicans than the northern gringos in the USA ?

The only thing that people need - in good or bad times - is food, as it is the single and most important resource for one's survival.

Can global trade continue when the world is in recession - as in a Global Meltdown similar to the World Depression in the early 1900s ?

Do you know how your grand-parents and parents survived during the Great Depression before WW-1; and the conditions that caused the Global Trade to suffer during WW-2 ?

27 billion both ways

------------------------

When one chat with another person on prize of cars, one would usually give general views, eg: around $30k for Chinese makes, $50k for korean makes, $70k for japanese makes and above $100k for european models even when there are variations in between.

It is only when one goes into specifics, such as type, engine capacity, fuel consumption, etcs, does one give a better accounting.

My mention of $27 billion (international trade currency is in US dollars) both ways meant around S$40 billion ( dec 07 rate) each for China and for Singapore. It was only a general figure to give the size of trade, for example if it was Korea, it would be (US)$10 billion.

But Atobe stupidly use this general figure to prove her further ignorance.

Idiocy from Atobe

-----------------------

Can Singapore's bilateral trade with China be considered healthy when China exports more to Singapore than it does importing Singapore manufactured goods ?

With China's main market also tied to the US market - as also with every major countries on earth, let alone Singapore - do you think that China can be immune to any recession in the USA ?

Can Singapore depend on China's economy when it imports less than what it sells to Singapore ?

Was it not your own grand idea in attempting to project China as an engine for Singapore's continued economic growth ?

And much more astounding stupidity only an ignorant idiot Atobe can contribute for your reading pleasure with the past pages.

Surely you do not expect your audience to have minds that think like a Deer, and waiting blindly to get shock by an impotent flashy DeerHunter ?

Are you still disputing my stated position with your lame understanding of the Global Trade ?

Have you conveniently mixed up your Bilateral Trade with the Entrepot Trade in your fantasy analogy of an ideal Global Trade environment ?

Incidentally, do you expect anyone to know what your ''prize'' is for the various car makes that you have brilliantly given that is causing further opportunities to castrate you with ?

Do you seriously expect anyone to understand the workings of a retarded DeerHunter's mind when reading your ''Prize'' as stated by you - when you did not even make clear which currency or source of your article that you have depended for your argument ?

Thank God for only one foolish DeerHunter - so if you wish to

‘Analysing International Trade Data in a Small Open Economy’

This article analyses the issue of differences in the measurement of international trade flows at a bilateral level in the context of Singapore. Using the Trade Difference (TD) Statistic a la Blades and Ivanov (1985), discrepancies in reported international trade data for Singapore's trade with some important trading partners have been analysed.

The analysis suggests that the bilateral trade data of highly trade-oriented economies like Singapore needs to be interpreted carefully, and there is a need to separate out Singapore's entrepot trade function when analysing the bilateral trade data, ...

Read the rest of this article with a Free Trial at HighBeam Research.

Will you be honest enough to be impartial again, and perhaps even attempt to get a free subscription to read the continuing details of this work ?

Tharman says S’pore not headed for a recession replied by HyperFocal @ Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:55:54 +0800

HyperFocal — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:55:54 +0800

Singapore's key exports down 10.5% in May on-year
Posted: 17 June 2008 1528 hrs

SINGAPORE - Singapore's key exports fell 10.5 percent in May compared with a year earlier, with pharmaceutical shipments down nearly half amid lower exports to the United States and Europe, the government said on Tuesday.

The fall in non-oil domestic exports (NODX) was the largest since December 2006 when they dropped 14 percent, Fortis Bank economist Joseph Tan told Dow Jones Newswires.

NODX fell in May after a 5.3 percent gain in April, said the trade promotion body, International Enterprise (IE) Singapore.

On a month-on-month seasonally adjusted basis, NODX dropped 9.8 percent last month, compared with a gain of 1.6 percent in April, it said.

That fall was much greater than the 0.4 percent drop forecast in a poll of economists by Dow Jones Newswires.

"The degree of weakness (for Singapore) is pretty striking," Robert Prior-Wandesforde, an economist at HSBC in Singapore, said. "Most other countries in Asia have seen exports pick up over the last few months."

IE Singapore said NODX to the European Union dropped 28.0 percent year-on-year in May after a 16.8 percent rise the previous month, while shipments to the United States fell 22.3 percent, exceeding the 16.9 percent drop in April.

Singapore's export-reliant economy grew slower than estimated in the year's first quarter, at 6.7 percent, as demand weakened due to a slowdown in the United States and other key markets, the government said last month.

The country's de facto central bank in April said it had further tightened monetary policy in a bid to address a sharp rise in inflation. The bank's move sent the local dollar to record highs, making exports more costly for buyers.

Monthly NODX figures are a closely watched barometer of the health of Singapore's economy.

Non-electronic shipments shrank by 11.8 percent, led by pharmaceuticals, which dropped 48.5 percent compared with the same month a year earlier, IE Singapore said.

Domestic exports of electronic goods continued the decline started in February last year with a further shrinkage of 8.5 percent overall. The consumer electronics segment was down 30.6 percent, IE Singapore said.

"With the harsh reality of a US-led slowdown in demand weighing on export performance, the manufacturing sector will need to brace itself for the difficult times ahead," DBS Group Research said ahead of the data release.

Total trade rose 15.6 percent to S$78.6 billion, compared with 21.2 percent growth in April, IE Singapore said.

The government of Singapore, Southeast Asia's most advanced economy, has stuck to its full-year GDP growth estimate of four to six percent. - AFP/ir

Tharman says S’pore not headed for a recession replied by Bentsb05 @ Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:28:15 +0800

Bentsb05 — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:28:15 +0800

deerhunter,

we can all see that, obviously he has very shallow views on subject matters like this, to him trade has to be a win-lose situation, failing to see the wider, wholesome picture.......we can gain insight into the man by reading his postings and the comical way he argues without any reliable references. ....afterall these have been the pathectic state of critics here, a lot of self views, distortion of facts but with little references of credibility (wish they can let us refer to some credible sources in their postings to back up)......just take all these as the enchanting bedtime stories by some illusionists lah

Tharman says S’pore not headed for a recession replied by DeerHunter @ Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:21:18 +0800

DeerHunter — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:21:18 +0800

China Singapore Bilateral Trade made simple:-

This post is for the benefit of readers to discern facts from half truths and lies. Simple analogies would be used for simpler understanding, for village idiots like Atobe still exists in Singapore.

1.Imports and Exports

----------------------------

A. ) Exports to China:

I purchase materials, made a table and exported it to China. China pays me S$43 dollars.

B.) Import from China:-

I saw online China had 3 chairs to sell. I don't need 3 chairs, as i am only 1 person, but there is a bulk discount if i buy all 3. So I paid S$48 dollars for all 3 chairs. I kept 1 and sold the other 2 to Indonesia and Australia, countries further away at a slightly higher price from me for a profit.

On paper, it looks like I paid $5 more than i buy from China. But in actual fact, i didn't, for i don't need so many chairs as i am only a population of 1. I sold the other 2 China chair and made a small profit.

Multiply those chair a billion times and you will see how important bilateral trade with the factory of the world is to our entreport country.

B. Service and support for trade

--------------------------------------

To make those table, i would need wood, glue, nails, tools, varnish, banks to give me capital, factory space, exports agents, etc. These are the organisations that facilitate my trade. They gain as well, for i have to pay for such services, which i will include into my costings for the S$43 table i sold to China.

Now multiply the level of support for my trade in billions and you will see how much it had benefitted the supporting industries. IF there is no China trade, factory of the world, can you imagine how many people would be out of job?

And this businessmodel is what the govt is attempting to replicate in modern Russia. What had CSJ and the political opposition done except to waste time, cast slander and maligned the honour of our super salesmen who are scouting the world for opportunites for us citizens so that we can put food on the table for our kids?

No matter how high or low the volume of trade becomes even in recession times, there will always be trade, for there will always be something people will need and people will produce. No country is self-sufficient, except the poor. But then they are never a target market to earn money from.

27 billion both ways

------------------------

When one chat with another person on prize of cars, one would usually give general views, eg: around $30k for Chinese makes, $50k for korean makes, $70k for japanese makes and above $100k for european models even when there are variations in between.

It is only when one goes into specifics, such as type, engine capacity, fuel consumption, etcs, does one give a better accounting.

My mention of $27 billion (international trade currency is in US dollars) both ways meant around S$40 billion ( dec 07 rate) each for China and for Singapore. It was only a general figure to give the size of trade, for example if it was Korea, it would be (US)$10 billion.

But Atobe stupidly use this general figure to prove her further ignorance.

Idiocy from Atobe

-----------------------

Can Singapore's bilateral trade with China be considered healthy when China exports more to Singapore than it does importing Singapore manufactured goods ?

With China's main market also tied to the US market - as also with every major countries on earth, let alone Singapore - do you think that China can be immune to any recession in the USA ?

Can Singapore depend on China's economy when it imports less than what it sells to Singapore ?

Was it not your own grand idea in attempting to project China as an engine for Singapore's continued economic growth ?

And much more astounding stupidity only an ignorant idiot Atobe can contribute for your reading pleasure with the past pages.

Tharman says S’pore not headed for a recession replied by ☺☺ @ Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:47:15 +0800

☺☺ — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:47:15 +0800

http://www.iesingapore.gov.sg/wps/portal/MI_NorthAsia_China

Singapore-China trade statistic. Our trade balance with China is still negative, however please note that about 40% of the goods we import from China are re-exported.

Tharman says S’pore not headed for a recession replied by Bentsb05 @ Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:09:09 +0800

Bentsb05 — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:09:09 +0800

china-singapore trade up in 2005 to reach 33.15 billion us dollars

http://english.sina.com/business/1/2006/0228/67467.html

Tharman says S’pore not headed for a recession replied by DeerHunter @ Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:50:09 +0800

DeerHunter — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:50:09 +0800

Originally posted by Atobe:

Has the DeerHunter woke up to a bad Sunday, and dreamed that he had debunked my arguments ?

You can try harder at convincing yourself but you still cannot get over those very expensive straws - which you depended on so overwhelmingly to build up your lame arguments that got you embarrassed time and again.

The straws that you claimed that I have grabbed were worth a dubious sum of US$27 Billion according to your rough estimate about the China-Singapore Trade - BOTH WAYS, how did you debunked what economic theories that you claimed exist in my replies to you ?

Only a DeerHunter can be deluded and not able to see an object that he had so expertly over inflated, and you claim that you can appreciate my ego ?

Should it not be the truth that you envy the confidence with simple logic in my position taken that had your arguments demolished time and time again - and you can only depend as your last rebuttal that it is all about my ego ?

If that is the case, what is driving your efforts to return when you have nothing else to offer, and only to receive more bruising hits for your infantile stupidity in nursing a bruised and deflated ego ?

The $27 garbage bin was a product of your bankrupt imagination, and you are most welcome to keep an overprice product to be used to hide your sore feelings; and if you feel that you do not want to be ''embarrass to be arguing with a fool'' - what could be driving you back again, and again ?

Is it more then a bruised ego, or simply a DeerHunter that is impotent at performing anything of substance - let alone being a true hunter ?

Again you talk rubbish. Instead of backing up your claims with facts to support your lack of knowledge in economics, you use insults to futher your ownstupidity.

Thus is there a need to discuss with you further, more so with one like you whose only facts are slander, scorn, mocks, slur and taunts instead of intelligence? Your only claim to rabid notoriety are ridiculous attempts to humilate and revile others whom are rational and thinks differently from you.

Continue with your thrash. It suits me well that you do so, so that readers of this forum may know your kind well and what grid-locking and time wasting opposition politics will be like, with rabid imbecile hypocrites of the likes such as you.

Either that, or crawl quietly back to your rubbish bin where you belong, and no one will say you are dumb.

Tharman says S’pore not headed for a recession replied by Atobe @ Mon, 16 Jun 2008 00:57:43 +0800

Atobe — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 00:57:43 +0800

Originally posted by DeerHunter:

So you wish to re-open your various economic theories that was thoroughly debunked by me?

No, as i had mentioned, I have no wish to argue with a fool that you truly are. Let others follow the thread and read what had been posted. What they believe is no concern of mine, except the truth must be told.

The problem with you is that you love to grab at straws to prove your over-inflated deluded ego. I will allow that, for others will be able to discern.

As far as i am concerned, you belong to the rubbish bin. Stay there and learn economics from your bin before you even attempt to figure out your own expenses.

Has the DeerHunter woke up to a bad Sunday, and dreamed that he had debunked my arguments ?

You can try harder at convincing yourself but you still cannot get over those very expensive straws - which you depended on so overwhelmingly to build up your lame arguments that got you embarrassed time and again.

The straws that you claimed that I have grabbed were worth a dubious sum of US$27 Billion according to your rough estimate about the China-Singapore Trade - BOTH WAYS, how did you debunked what economic theories that you claimed exist in my replies to you ?

Only a DeerHunter can be deluded and not able to see an object that he had so expertly over inflated, and you claim that you can appreciate my ego ?

Should it not be the truth that you envy the confidence with simple logic in my position taken that had your arguments demolished time and time again - and you can only depend as your last rebuttal that it is all about my ego ?

If that is the case, what is driving your efforts to return when you have nothing else to offer, and only to receive more bruising hits for your infantile stupidity in nursing a bruised and deflated ego ?

The $27 garbage bin was a product of your bankrupt imagination, and you are most welcome to keep an overprice product to be used to hide your sore feelings; and if you feel that you do not want to be ''embarrass to be arguing with a fool'' - what could be driving you back again, and again ?

Is it more then a bruised ego, or simply a DeerHunter that is impotent at performing anything of substance - let alone being a true hunter ?

Tharman says S’pore not headed for a recession replied by DeerHunter @ Sun, 15 Jun 2008 11:09:02 +0800

DeerHunter — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 11:09:02 +0800

Originally posted by Atobe:

No use trying to shoo the attention that you have been seeking to your DeerHunting abilities - you have already made your 'point blank' fame with all your 'blank point' shots.

To save you the trouble in jumping to both threads in which you have suddenly decide to display a flash of ingenuine genuis with you US$ reason - you sound alot more credible with your continued effort in giving me a blind eye in not reading what I have written.

Have you also decided to identify the $27 Billion trade between China-Singapore in US Dollars ?

If we were to believe your numbers from your given 'singstat.gov' - Singapore Export to China was S$43,549.5 Million; while Singapore's Import from China was S$48.013.4 Million - and taking an exchange rate of USD1.00 to SGD 1.48 as at end-2007 : both numbers hardly come any where near your US$27 Billion.

What exchange rate were you using in making your estimate to conclude that the China-Singapore Trade - BOTH WAYS had amounted to US$27 Billion ?

Do you need the Hubble Telescope to improve your DeerHunting skills ?

It is Sunday, and Hubble is probably available for your efforts to redeem your credibility by looking for some new stars to add dazzle to your sudden brilliance.

So you wish to re-open your various economic theories that was thoroughly debunked by me?

No, as i had mentioned, I have no wish to argue with a fool that you truly are. Let others follow the thread and read what had been posted. What they believe is no concern of mine, except the truth must be told.

The problem with you is that you love to grab at straws to prove your over-inflated deluded ego. I will allow that, for others will be able to discern.

As far as i am concerned, you belong to the rubbish bin. Stay there and learn economics from your bin before you even attempt to figure out your own expenses.

Tharman says S’pore not headed for a recession replied by Atobe @ Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:46:15 +0800

Atobe — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:46:15 +0800

Originally posted by DeerHunter:

Shoo! Crawl back to your rubbish bin, even if it is near the sea as you claim. And continue to remind everyone of the estimated $27 billion trade, in US dollars, the currency of international commerce. It only shows your utter ignorance on the international trade.

No use trying to shoo the attention that you have been seeking to your DeerHunting abilities - you have already made your 'point blank' fame with all your 'blank point' shots.

To save you the trouble in jumping to both threads in which you have suddenly decide to display a flash of ingenuine genuis with you US$ reason - you sound alot more credible with your continued effort in giving me a blind eye in not reading what I have written.

Have you also decided to identify the $27 Billion trade between China-Singapore in US Dollars ?

If we were to believe your numbers from your given 'singstat.gov' - Singapore Export to China was S$43,549.5 Million; while Singapore's Import from China was S$48.013.4 Million - and taking an exchange rate of USD1.00 to SGD 1.48 as at end-2007 : both numbers hardly come any where near your US$27 Billion.

What exchange rate were you using in making your estimate to conclude that the China-Singapore Trade - BOTH WAYS had amounted to US$27 Billion ?

Do you need the Hubble Telescope to improve your DeerHunting skills ?

It is Sunday, and Hubble is probably available for your efforts to redeem your credibility by looking for some new stars to add dazzle to your sudden brilliance.

Tharman says S’pore not headed for a recession replied by DeerHunter @ Sun, 15 Jun 2008 09:36:56 +0800

DeerHunter — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 09:36:56 +0800

Originally posted by Atobe:

Do you need to guess if it is lonely, when you are the permanent inhabitant with a puppet Green Monster for company ?

Is this where you learn to take on different Point_blank characters - in Gazelle, Aelop, Pekei and how many more - when you need to find solace after being repeatedly being trounced from one thread to another ?

I am enjoying a wonderful weekend by the sea, while all you can do is to sulk and shoo others from your $27 garbage bin that is stuffed with your "$27 Billion China-Singapore Trade - BOTH WAYS".

Shoo! Crawl back to your rubbish bin, even if it is near the sea as you claim. And continue to remind everyone of the estimated $27 billion trade, in US dollars, the currency of international commerce. It only shows your utter ignorance on the international trade.

Tharman says S’pore not headed for a recession replied by Atobe @ Sun, 15 Jun 2008 07:22:26 +0800

Atobe — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 07:22:26 +0800

Originally posted by DeerHunter:

I guess your rubbish bin can be pretty lonely. Go on and spout, but just crawl back into the only place where you belong once you finished.

Do you need to guess if it is lonely, when you are the permanent inhabitant with a puppet Green Monster for company ?

Is this where you learn to take on different Point_blank characters - in Gazelle, Aelop, Pekei and how many more - when you need to find solace after being repeatedly being trounced from one thread to another ?

I am enjoying a wonderful weekend by the sea, while all you can do is to sulk and shoo others from your $27 garbage bin that is stuffed with your "$27 Billion China-Singapore Trade - BOTH WAYS".

Tharman says S’pore not headed for a recession replied by SingaporeTyrannosaur @ Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:16:39 +0800

SingaporeTyrannosaur — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:16:39 +0800

Actually I think gazelle is kinda sad now, he must be really frazzled trying to switch inbetween multiple accounts thinking it actually makes it look like he has more support then he has, but unfortuntately it's fooling nobody.

The funnier part is that he even tries to speak out in support of himself, but only manages to

To paraphrase a fictional persona, "his only victory is in furthering his own stupidity.

ROLFCOPTER

Tharman says S’pore not headed for a recession replied by Civilgoh @ Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:39:16 +0800

Civilgoh — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:39:16 +0800

Originally posted by Pin Head:

Who is this joker Deerhunter?
Newly registered poster and talk so much rubbish with the main intention of starting a flame war.

He is not new. He is using new nick. He is gazelle, Aelop, Point_blank.

Tharman says S’pore not headed for a recession replied by Pin Head @ Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:03:12 +0800

Pin Head — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:03:12 +0800

Who is this joker Deerhunter?
Newly registered poster and talk so much rubbish with the main intention of starting a flame war.

Tharman says S’pore not headed for a recession replied by DeerHunter @ Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:18:57 +0800

DeerHunter — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:18:57 +0800

Originally posted by Atobe:

Hello Clone, Have you given up on your $27 Billion Trade between China-Singapore - BOTH WAYS - and now proposing to bunk it into a $27 garbage bin ?

Surely Sesame Street need not pay for such an expensive bin even for a budget kids' show that you seem to have got your ideas from ?

How would you know that one need to crawl into a bin ?

Must be a practised habit each time you get yourself debunked for your poorly gathered facts ?

Must you ask - ''What's the prize for many of the economic rubbish you attempt to throw before everyone face here ?''

It depends which economic rubbish you have offered that require me to debunk and throw away into your $27 rubbish bin before everyone's face that you choose as your audience.

The biggest prize will be to see a pompous over-confident DeerHunter shooting his own Gazelle butt - after blindly charging to support a losing proposition that he continue on-behalf of his master clone : the Gazelle.

You did say that you have been observing my style of claiming victory when others have left the argument - how did you come to such a definite conclusion ? Was it inferred or were you deluded in seeing firewords placed in those threads to celebrate the victory that you have awarded to my arguments observed by you ?

Have you not been a consistent debater that have persistently lost your arguments based on your own juvenile mistakes made, and blaming others for the silly and helpless argumentative position that you chose that was never winnable - as in your claim for the $27 Billion China-Singapore Trade.

Go back to Sesame Street and be the Green Monster in the garbage bin - you will have more fun entertaining the kids than succeeding to be a DeerHunter in SGP.

I guess your rubbish bin can be pretty lonely. Go on and spout, but just crawl back into the only place where you belong once you finished.

Tharman says S’pore not headed for a recession replied by Atobe @ Sat, 14 Jun 2008 06:39:46 +0800

Atobe — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 06:39:46 +0800

Originally posted by DeerHunter:

Victory? What's your prize for many of the economic rubbish you attempt to throw before everyone face here? Oh..yes, the rubbish bin. Crawl back and revel in your $27.00 ( S$40.00, '07 rate) rubbish bin. Enjoy your self proclaimed 'victory'. Your only victory is in furthering your own stupidity.

Hello Clone, Have you given up on your $27 Billion Trade between China-Singapore - BOTH WAYS - and now proposing to bunk it into a $27 garbage bin ?

Surely Sesame Street need not pay for such an expensive bin even for a budget kids' show that you seem to have got your ideas from ?

How would you know that one need to crawl into a bin ?

Must be a practised habit each time you get yourself debunked for your poorly gathered facts ?

Must you ask - ''What's the prize for many of the economic rubbish you attempt to throw before everyone face here ?''

It depends which economic rubbish you have offered that require me to debunk and throw away into your $27 rubbish bin before everyone's face that you choose as your audience.

The biggest prize will be to see a pompous over-confident DeerHunter shooting his own Gazelle butt - after blindly charging to support a losing proposition that he continue on-behalf of his master clone : the Gazelle.

You did say that you have been observing my style of claiming victory when others have left the argument - how did you come to such a definite conclusion ? Was it inferred or were you deluded in seeing firewords placed in those threads to celebrate the victory that you have awarded to my arguments observed by you ?

Have you not been a consistent debater that have persistently lost your arguments based on your own juvenile mistakes made, and blaming others for the silly and helpless argumentative position that you chose that was never winnable - as in your claim for the $27 Billion China-Singapore Trade.

Go back to Sesame Street and be the Green Monster in the garbage bin - you will have more fun entertaining the kids than succeeding to be a DeerHunter in SGP.

Tharman says S’pore not headed for a recession replied by Civilgoh @ Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:51:24 +0800

Civilgoh — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:51:24 +0800

Recession? Feedback from sales staff that unlike before this year they see fewer people shopping during GSS.

Tharman says S’pore not headed for a recession replied by DeerHunter @ Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:40:35 +0800

DeerHunter — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:40:35 +0800

Originally posted by Atobe:

Has the DeerHunter lost patience waiting for the Gazelle to appear, and decide to hang-up the gun ?

Surely I did not disturb your hunt and scared the Gazelle from your sight - as the sound in my tune remained the same ?

You do not have to leave the hunting ground, simply to allow me to claim victory in your absence - as you claimed in your observations of my style.

Or have you exhausted your intellectual capacity in explaining your brilliant $27 Billion in the value of the China-Singapore Trade - "both ways" ?

Good thing that you are faking your own advise, and do retire to Sesame Street where the garbage bin tenant will surely welcome your company.

Victory? What's your prize for many of the economic rubbish you attempt to throw before everyone face here? Oh..yes, the rubbish bin. Crawl back and revel in your $27.00 ( S$40.00, '07 rate) rubbish bin. Enjoy your self proclaimed 'victory'. Your only victory is in furthering your own stupidity.

Tharman says S’pore not headed for a recession replied by Atobe @ Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:12:10 +0800

Atobe — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:12:10 +0800

Originally posted by DeerHunter:

Shoo! Crawl back to your rubbish bin where you belong.

Has the DeerHunter lost patience waiting for the Gazelle to appear, and decide to hang-up the gun ?

Surely I did not disturb your hunt and scared the Gazelle from your sight - as the sound in my tune remained the same ?

You do not have to leave the hunting ground, simply to allow me to claim victory in your absence - as you claimed in your observations of my style.

Or have you exhausted your intellectual capacity in explaining your brilliant $27 Billion in the value of the China-Singapore Trade - "both ways" ?

Good thing that you are faking your own advise, and do retire to Sesame Street where the garbage bin tenant will surely welcome your company.

Recent Posts in 'Tharman says S’pore not headed for a recession' | sgForums.com