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      <title>WP should champion this replied by whiskers @ Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:22:52 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;I always thought solar use to power calculator only.... and not
very efficient at that too....&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>WP should champion this replied by zaxis @ Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:33:36 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;solar panel today need not only be those panel on roof top.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;those solar film stick on window glass, now they only repl
sun-light into building,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;new technology is they esbort the sun-light, filter light into
building, instate of repl away others lights, they work like solar
panel on roof top.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;so now is start sticking these solar film that work like solar
panel.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;even car can be solar energy, just stick the new techology solar
film that work like solar panel.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and with more battery now running on Lithum ion, those Metal hi
diut will be history.Ni-Cd or Ni-MH will be history.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and with more polymer Lithum ion, battery will be lighter,
compare to now liquid Lithum ion.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>WP should champion this replied by &#24464; &#39034; &#20840; @ Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:29:40 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Guten Tag, you should have started this thread earlier mah,
because if WP start to bring up this topic now, I am sure PAP will
say that you are already a few years too late.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=
"http://www.scandasia.com/viewNews.php?coun_code=sg&amp;amp;amp;news_id=4099"
rel="nofollow"&gt;&amp;nbsp;Norsun&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Verdana;"&gt;&lt;a href=
"http://www.solarbuzz.com/News/NewsASMA98.htm" rel=
"nofollow"&gt;SolarMorph&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=
"http://asiacleantech.wordpress.com/2008/01/12/oerlikon-solar-to-open-plant-in-singapore/"
rel="nofollow"&gt;Oerlikon Solar&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;a href=
"http://www.wildsingapore.com/news/20070910/071027-1.htm" rel=
"nofollow"&gt;Renewable Energy Corporation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>WP should champion this replied by deathmaster @ Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:19:39 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;think of the potential bird shit the gahmen have to clean up,
literally.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;every piece of bird shit effectively reduce the efficiency of
the solar panels. not really realistic.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;yeah, you will save on ur power bill, but ur conservancy charges
will also be upped, since they now have to send cleaners up to the
roof everyday to clean the panels.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:19:39 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>WP should champion this replied by FrozernFire @ Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:37:19 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;i did a simple research (2-3k words) on this last year for my
sec 4 research work. singapore's sunlight is not A LOT like what
most people think, due to frequent cloudy/rainy days. in fact if i
remember correctly singapore gets less sunshine (as in light
intensity/energy) in a year compared to perth.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;then there is also the rooftop area on hdb blocks. it isn't very
significant, i used google maps to estimate the area lol. water
tanks take up quite a large area already on the smaller blocks.
plus the fact that you cannot fully cover area available (for
maintenance), you would be lucky to cover 50% of rooftop area.
moreover, this amount of solar panels would only power a few
average size flats for each block. compared to the rest of the
block + energy consumed outside residential areas, it might be
significant in absolute numbers, but quite insignificant
relatively.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;by numbers i found around the net, solar panels also take about
15 years average to pay off. you might be earning so to speak after
the 15 year period, but it can be view as quite a long term
investment.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i emphasise again that my research was more of clobbing numbers
available in a logical way, there was minimal primary research.
large assumptions were made, but the main gist i got from it was
that solar panels on hdb blocks is not as great an idea as most
people would think it is. there is a reason why solar power plants
cover large amounts of land, land that would be hard to find in
singapore&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>WP should champion this replied by eagle @ Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:04:52 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;You know solar panels technology how expensive and terribly
inefficient a not, till it is not very economically feasible to
implement it on a large scale.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The plan is to research into ways to fabricate it cheaply and
make it more efficient. And the future vision is to have solar
trees too, not only just placing on top of roofs.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>WP should champion this replied by Gutentaginator @ Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:57:20 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_from"&gt;Originally posted by eagle:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div class="quote_body"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The govt already has such a plan, and is sponsoring PhD students
who are interested in doing research in these areas.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
That is taking too long. Solar panel is a matured technology.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What are they waiting for?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Privatisation of something?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;WP should be the catalyst to speed things up.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Both are working for the people.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;WP can speed things up. WP should demand the reason for
the&amp;nbsp;non implementation on the roofs.&amp;nbsp; Solar panels
existed since decades ago.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;HDBs are somehow priced very high even though its a leased
living space. Solar panels for&amp;nbsp;the&amp;nbsp;roof of a block of
flat is&amp;nbsp;cheap compared to the price of a block of flats. You
can even say its free.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am not surprised this is being considered.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Considering is one thing. Doing it and successful realisation of
it is another completely.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;WP has a great opportunity to contribute to society in this
aspect.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Act now WP!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;edited : "slow implementation" into "non implementation on the
roofs"&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>WP should champion this replied by eagle @ Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:54:53 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;The govt already has such a plan, and is sponsoring PhD students
who are interested in doing research in these areas.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:54:53 +0800</pubDate>
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      <title>WP should champion this replied by Gutentaginator @ Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:53:39 +0800</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp; Friends,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Singapore is a sunny island. Looking at this land from the sky,
you see roof of apartments or flats and office buildings.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In opposition wards like Potong Pasir, there are some small
implementations of solar-powered lamp-posts.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why stop there?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I urge WP to champion the implementation of solar panels on all
ROOF TOPs of HDB flats.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This power is channelled back to the grid.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Imagine whole island is covered by solar panels the amount of
free electricity that can be produced. It will be astonishing!
believe me.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know some can say that solar panels are expensive. Not as
before. Take into consideration the economies of scale, even less
expensive. Take into consideration the minimum maintenance required
for the panels,&amp;nbsp; you will start to get the picture. Consider
how long these panels can last, your eyes and minds shall begin to
open up.&amp;nbsp; Expensive? What is expensive?&amp;nbsp; Going green,
what is expensive? Longterm view, what is expensive? Waste of solar
energy, is that not a HUGE WASTE? which is worse?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hope the WP champion this and make it their contribution to
singapore.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do the needful. Do the right thing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Go for the green vote.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gutentaginator&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;*edited : the word "longtime view"&amp;nbsp; into "longterm
view"&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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