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  • Civilgoh's Avatar
    783 posts since Jun '08
    • Below is extracted from the article from the interview by Arnaud De Borchgrave.   Too long to include the whole text.  

      Will life in Singapore improve if the head/the leader of the country view the nation as losers?   Seems PAP, lky, lhl are the only winners in this country.  

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      An Interview With Lee Kuan Yew 2008

      Singapore's Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew (Wikipedia Image) by Arnaud De Borchgrave
      Singapore (UPI) Feb 8, 2008
      UPI Editor at Large Arnaud de Borchgrave interviewed Singapore's Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew on Feb. 2. The following is the text of the interview.

       

      Q: In fact, democracies don't produce great statesmen anymore. Why?

      A: You now have, and I don't know how long this phase will last, mass media domination, owned by a group of media barons who want constant change for their balance sheets.

      Q: So how do you see the future of capitalism?

      A: As chairman of the equivalent of our Sovereign Wealth Fund, we examine and decide where to invest our money, in equities or bonds or what have you. Our fund managers are paid five times what I get. Why? Because they have had good track records in growing our fund and we know what they could command in the private sector. They are dealing with billions of dollars every day and must be compensated accordingly.

      Unbridled capitalism, winner takes all like in America, does not work unless you can cope with an underclass. So here we also stay with the losers, make sure they have enough to live on, with healthcare, equal education opportunities for their children whose parents can no longer afford it. It's very important they not feel abandoned. So we have workfare and ingenuous ways to keep them working as we don't want layabouts doing nothing. We also subsidize homes which they would not be able to buy. A society can only survive if there is a sense of equity and fair play.

       

       

  • maurizio13's Avatar
    10,536 posts since Sep '06
  • Civilgoh's Avatar
    783 posts since Jun '08
    • Originally posted by maurizio13:

       

      This point I totally agree with LKY, Singaporean are losers. icon_lol.gif


      What is your definition of losers?    I see you love to live among the losers, so I suppose you are one of the losers.

  • Civilgoh's Avatar
    783 posts since Jun '08
    • Losers are those who don't agree with the way PAP runs the country and yet go against their conscience to vote for PAP.   ---> 66.6% voters

  • InnoHippo's Avatar
    19,505 posts since Jun '04
  • Civilgoh's Avatar
    783 posts since Jun '08
    • Originally posted by InnoHippo:

      majority who buy toto are losers ...... dont u agree? icon_lol.gif

       

      He is not refering to those only, he is referring to Singaporeans as a whole.   Thus base on this I consider lky a loser himself.  

  • InnoHippo's Avatar
    19,505 posts since Jun '04
    • Originally posted by Civilgoh:

      He is not refering to those only, he is referring to Singaporeans as a whole.   Thus base on this I consider lky a loser himself.  

      he is trying to convince the rich to share their wealth with the poor lah .....

      i dont mind being the "loser" if the rich share their wealth ....

       

  • Civilgoh's Avatar
    783 posts since Jun '08
    • Originally posted by InnoHippo:

      he is trying to convince the rich to share their wealth with the poor lah .....

      i dont mind being the "loser" if the rich share their wealth ....

       


      No I don't think I agree with you.   So you want PAP ,lky to share his wealth with you and you be their loser?

  • jojobeach's Avatar
    3,901 posts since Apr '07
    • Originally posted by InnoHippo:

      he is trying to convince the rich to share their wealth with the poor lah .....

      i dont mind being the "loser" if the rich share their wealth ....

       

      Harlow.. grow some diginity lah.

      The wealthy will still be willing to share wealth without calling the poor "Losers"

      You know what is philanthropist anot ? You think SG don have meh ? Please lah.

       

  • domonkassyu's Avatar
    939 posts since Sep '07
    • did he meant losers as in people who lost out in this rat race or losers that are good for nothing people?

      if the latter, den i say some major changes need to be done.

      its one thing that the people who are to be served are serving the servants instead. its another thing, in fact an outrage for the people who are to be served are serving the servants instead and being called degradtory names by the insolent servants.

  • lotus999's Avatar
    616 posts since Apr '05
    • Originally posted by Civilgoh:

      Below is extracted from the article from the interview by Arnaud De Borchgrave.   Too long to include the whole text.  

      Will life in Singapore improve if the head/the leader of the country view the nation as losers?   Seems PAP, lky, lhl are the only winners in this country.  

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      An Interview With Lee Kuan Yew 2008

      Singapore's Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew (Wikipedia Image) by Arnaud De Borchgrave
      Singapore (UPI) Feb 8, 2008
      UPI Editor at Large Arnaud de Borchgrave interviewed Singapore's Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew on Feb. 2. The following is the text of the interview.

       

      Q: In fact, democracies don't produce great statesmen anymore. Why?

      A: You now have, and I don't know how long this phase will last, mass media domination, owned by a group of media barons who want constant change for their balance sheets.

      Q: So how do you see the future of capitalism?

      A: As chairman of the equivalent of our Sovereign Wealth Fund, we examine and decide where to invest our money, in equities or bonds or what have you. Our fund managers are paid five times what I get. Why? Because they have had good track records in growing our fund and we know what they could command in the private sector. They are dealing with billions of dollars every day and must be compensated accordingly.

      Unbridled capitalism, winner takes all like in America, does not work unless you can cope with an underclass. So here we also stay with the losers, make sure they have enough to live on, with healthcare, equal education opportunities for their children whose parents can no longer afford it. It's very important they not feel abandoned. So we have workfare and ingenuous ways to keep them working as we don't want layabouts doing nothing. We also subsidize homes which they would not be able to buy. A society can only survive if there is a sense of equity and fair play.

       

       

      if lky thinks that those who lives in hdb flats are losers, then he is the mother of all losers for he is their leader! he is also responsible for shaping or closing their minds of singaporeans as he controls the education system and the mass media.

  • freedom4ever's Avatar
    2,371 posts since May '05
    • Originally posted by lotus999:

      if lky thinks that those who lives in hdb flats are losers, then he is the mother of all losers for he is their leader! he is also responsible for shaping or closing their minds of singaporeans as he controls the education system and the mass media.

      i got a feeling that some clones are going to come here and tell you that he is not responsible.

  • lotus999's Avatar
    616 posts since Apr '05
    • Originally posted by freedom4ever:

      i got a feeling that some clones are going to come here and tell you that he is not responsible.

      that's to be expected and what else can they say.

  • fishbuff1's Avatar
    83 posts since Jun '08
  • Melbournite's Avatar
    635 posts since Mar '08
    • Quite disturbed and offended by this statement?...

      Singaporeans are not losers, they are the hard working country man who served NS, law abiding and educated as well...

      if there are any losers, its those foreign workers...

  • Melbournite's Avatar
    635 posts since Mar '08
    • Just remember, losers are not born , they are made. With such a system of tight contraints, people are not realising their potential.

  • crimsontactics's Avatar
    134 posts since Jun '07
    • Originally posted by Civilgoh:

      Below is extracted from the article from the interview by Arnaud De Borchgrave.   Too long to include the whole text.  

      Will life in Singapore improve if the head/the leader of the country view the nation as losers?   Seems PAP, lky, lhl are the only winners in this country.  

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      An Interview With Lee Kuan Yew 2008

      Singapore's Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew (Wikipedia Image) by Arnaud De Borchgrave
      Singapore (UPI) Feb 8, 2008
      UPI Editor at Large Arnaud de Borchgrave interviewed Singapore's Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew on Feb. 2. The following is the text of the interview.

       

      Q: In fact, democracies don't produce great statesmen anymore. Why?

      A: You now have, and I don't know how long this phase will last, mass media domination, owned by a group of media barons who want constant change for their balance sheets.

      Q: So how do you see the future of capitalism?

      A: As chairman of the equivalent of our Sovereign Wealth Fund, we examine and decide where to invest our money, in equities or bonds or what have you. Our fund managers are paid five times what I get. Why? Because they have had good track records in growing our fund and we know what they could command in the private sector. They are dealing with billions of dollars every day and must be compensated accordingly.

      Unbridled capitalism, winner takes all like in America, does not work unless you can cope with an underclass. So here we also stay with the losers, make sure they have enough to live on, with healthcare, equal education opportunities for their children whose parents can no longer afford it. It's very important they not feel abandoned. So we have workfare and ingenuous ways to keep them working as we don't want layabouts doing nothing. We also subsidize homes which they would not be able to buy. A society can only survive if there is a sense of equity and fair play.

       

       

      TS are you singaporean?

      So does that makes you a loser too?

  • will4's Avatar
    2,919 posts since Oct '05
    • If local are losers, mayb they should start migrating to other countries n give up their local citizenship so as not to be said as losers.

  • Pink Leftie with child bearing hips and fertile eggs
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    19,386 posts since Dec '99
  • Poh Ah Pak's Avatar
    3,044 posts since Aug '07
    • Unbridled capitalism, winner takes all like in America, does not work unless you can cope with an underclass. So here we also stay with the losers, make sure they have enough to live on, with healthcare, equal education opportunities for their children whose parents can no longer afford it.

      As long as Singaporeans are under the rule of this man, we can never be happy.

      That is why I want Lee Kuan Yew to die.

      Lee Kuan Yew, don't make me wait too long.

      I get impatient.

      VERY IMPATIENT.

      When can I take a look at your dead face, Lee Kuan Yew?

      Edited by Poh Ah Pak 19 Jun `08, 6:44PM
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