http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322659 en-US 60 <p>u hv to be in the elite few to hv <strong><em><span style= "color: #ff6600;">REAL</span></em></strong> pay increases.......</p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:26:22 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322659:8209382 Combatus http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322659 <p>according to the CNA news last night,</p> <p>salaries for certain position.</p> <p>Manager - $6000++</p> <p>Professionals - $4000++</p> <p>Technicians - $2000++ ( around 2.7k )</p> <p>Cleaners - $900++</p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:12:40 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322659:8209326 Chris1988 http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322659 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by pearlie27:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p><br /> This was due to the great leap in the ministers' salaries!</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Maybe, when you average out the "increases", with such a high increase in Ministerial salaries, no wonder they say SG wages went up...</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>On the other hand, inflation is real.</p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:05:40 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322659:8209111 AndrewPKYap http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322659 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by eagle:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>Near Hougang Mall there currently selling chicken rice for $1.50 somemore</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Malaysia cheaper... chicken rice RM2</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>If people working in town are expected to travel to "Near Hougang Mall" for $1.50 chicken rice, they expect people in woodlands to travel to JB.</p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:03:05 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322659:8209100 AndrewPKYap http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322659 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by eagle:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>Near Hougang Mall there currently selling chicken rice for $1.50 somemore</p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br /> when i travel to and fro hougang mall to eat this chicken rice, it becomes $3.50 <img src= "/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/redones/unhappy.png" alt= "unhappy.png" /><img src= "/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/redones/unhappy.png" alt= "unhappy.png" /></p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:02:09 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322659:8209095 Chris1988 http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322659 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Atobe:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>There must be a reason for the Official Propaganda machine to churn out the good news - could it be the harsh times that Singaporeans are sinking into that require an injection of desparately needed&nbsp;"good" news ?</p> <p>Was it not in&nbsp;2007 that&nbsp;the Department of Statistics again confirmed that even as Singapore achieved a First World GDP per capita of US$29,000 -&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href= "http://www.chinapost.com.tw/business/2007/11/12/130587/Singapore-income.htm" rel="nofollow">‘Singapore income gap widens with economic boom’.&nbsp;&nbsp;</a>?</p> <p>Has Singaporeans&nbsp;recovered from the shock that - <a href= "http://singaland.blogspot.com/2006_12_01_archive.html" rel= "nofollow">‘Two surveys by the Dept of Statistics, Household Expenditure Survey 2003 and General Household Survey 2005, showed that 40% of Singapore Households not only had declining incomes but were also unable to pay their monthly bills !’.&nbsp;&nbsp;</a>before being hit again by the 2007 report ?</p> <p>Singapore's Gini co-efficient, a measure of income inequality, has worsened from 42.5 in 1998 to 47.2 in 2006 - and is in league with the Philippines (46.1}, and Guatemal (48.3), and worse than China {44.7}.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> </div> </blockquote> <p><span style="color: #ff0000;">There must be a reason for the Official Propaganda machine to churn out the good news - could it be the harsh times that Singaporeans are sinking into that require an injection of desparately needed&nbsp;"good" news ?</span></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>There must be&nbsp;a reason for liars and word twisters such as you to churn out more half truths - could it be the effective policies that are preventing Singapore from sinking that requires an injection of more lies from the slanderers for a desparately needed boosts of morale support for their deluded supporters?</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Was it not in&nbsp;2007 that&nbsp;the Department of Statistics again confirmed that even as Singapore achieved a First World GDP per capita of US$29,000 -&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><a href= "http://www.chinapost.com.tw/business/2007/11/12/130587/Singapore-income.htm" rel="nofollow"><span style="color: #ff0000;">‘Singapore income gap widens with economic boom’.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></a><span style= "color: #ff0000;">?</span></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Was it not globalisation, which favours the well-educated, talented and more critically, the skilled, that created this gap? And had not our govt long exhorted all citizens to upgrade their skills, created skill specific education for our citizens?</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Has Singaporeans&nbsp;recovered from the shock that -</span> <a href= "http://singaland.blogspot.com/2006_12_01_archive.html" rel= "nofollow"><span style="color: #ff0000;">‘Two surveys by the Dept of Statistics, Household Expenditure Survey 2003 and General Household Survey 2005, showed that 40% of Singapore Households not only had declining incomes but were also unable to pay their monthly bills !’.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></a><span style= "color: #ff0000;">before being hit again by the 2007 report ?</span></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Had Singaporeans recovered from the disability to pay bills through help from CDCs and NGOs, before being hit again in 2007 by our leaders' committment to help the less unfortunate in our society through more funds and policies to create employment and opportunity?</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Singapore's Gini co-efficient, a measure of income inequality, has worsened from 42.5 in 1998 to 47.2 in 2006 - and is in league with the Philippines (46.1}, and Guatemal (48.3), and worse than China {44.7}.</span></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Gini co-efficient had long been disputed as inefficient and subjected to misinterpretation. But of course, liars and dealers in half truths such as Atobe would prefer you take her word for it, in the believe that one here would be too lazy to check for facts, or had studied it before, or ask around.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 09:42:36 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322659:8208886 DeerHunter http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322659 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Medicated Oil:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>The statistics is correct for 2007 when the inflation and recession have not hit the economy.</p> <p>Using last year's pay rise to match against the present inflation is like matching last year toto results with this year toto slip, bo bar gay.</p> <p>The media is trying to&nbsp;fool people that the impact of inflation is nothing.</p> <p>$2.50 meal may be found in primary or secondary school canteen and not in major food courts.</p> <p>It is just another round of price rise coming soon so that they have cushioned it with these kind of nonsense.</p> <p>The next round of price rise - town council, bus, MRT, taxi, school fee.......</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>Well said</p> <p>They took data of the 'good old times' to relate to you.</p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 09:12:40 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322659:8208834 eagle http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322659 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by domonkassyu:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p><br /> exactly..the CASE are idiots. using $2.50 meals to brain wash ppl..i can even find $2 meals..but what of the food quality and quantity and location? is it cost efficient to go such places..what kind of idiots we have for govt??</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>Near Hougang Mall there currently selling chicken rice for $1.50 somemore</p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 09:11:03 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322659:8208833 eagle http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322659 <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style= "color: #ff0000;">The way they push up property prices (no prizes for guessing who benefits from that and who suffers) Singaporeans will always be lagging behind and stressed out.</span></span></strong></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 08:59:26 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322659:8208815 AndrewPKYap http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322659 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Fingolfin_Noldor:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>The "$2.50 meal" article over the weekend got me sneering. Jeez.. is the media really out of things to report? What? They expect people to waste petrol or bus/MRT fare just to go look for these obscure stores?</p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br /> exactly..the CASE are idiots. using $2.50 meals to brain wash ppl..i can even find $2 meals..but what of the food quality and quantity and location? is it cost efficient to go such places..what kind of idiots we have for govt??</p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 08:45:36 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322659:8208798 domonkassyu http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322659 <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>There must be a reason for the Official Propaganda machine to churn out the good news - could it be the harsh times that Singaporeans are sinking into that require an injection of desparately needed&nbsp;"good" news ?</p> <p>Was it not in&nbsp;2007 that&nbsp;the Department of Statistics again confirmed that even as Singapore achieved a First World GDP per capita of US$29,000 -&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href= "http://www.chinapost.com.tw/business/2007/11/12/130587/Singapore-income.htm" rel="nofollow">‘Singapore income gap widens with economic boom’.&nbsp;&nbsp;</a>?</p> <p>Has Singaporeans&nbsp;recovered from the shock that - <a href= "http://singaland.blogspot.com/2006_12_01_archive.html" rel= "nofollow">‘Two surveys by the Dept of Statistics, Household Expenditure Survey 2003 and General Household Survey 2005, showed that 40% of Singapore Households not only had declining incomes but were also unable to pay their monthly bills !’.&nbsp;&nbsp;</a>before being hit again by the 2007 report ?</p> <p>Singapore's Gini co-efficient, a measure of income inequality, has worsened from 42.5 in 1998 to 47.2 in 2006 - and is in league with the Philippines (46.1}, and Guatemal (48.3), and worse than China {44.7}.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:26:48 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322659:8208649 Atobe http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322659 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by pearlie27:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p><br /> This was due to the great leap in the ministers' salaries!</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>haha I agreed.</p> <p>Their salaries certainly pushed up the overall wage increment.</p> Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:01:40 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322659:8208094 Spartans http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322659 <p><span class="">...</span> posted by HyperFocal: Total wages in <strong class="">Singapore</strong> up by 7-year high of 5.9% in<span class="">...</span>Posted: 30 June 2008 1115 hrs &nbsp; <strong class="">SINGAPORE</strong>: Despite the fact that <strong class="">Singapore</strong>'s economy grew by a lower 7.7 per cent <span class="">...</span></p> Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:59:29 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322659:8208090 pearlie27 http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322659 <p>The "$2.50 meal" article over the weekend got me sneering. Jeez.. is the media really out of things to report? What? They expect people to waste petrol or bus/MRT fare just to go look for these obscure stores?</p> Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:55:09 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322659:8208086 Fingolfin_Noldor http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322659 <p>The statistics is correct for 2007 when the inflation and recession have not hit the economy.</p> <p>Using last year's pay rise to match against the present inflation is like matching last year toto results with this year toto slip, bo bar gay.</p> <p>The media is trying to&nbsp;fool people that the impact of inflation is nothing.</p> <p>$2.50 meal may be found in primary or secondary school canteen and not in major food courts.</p> <p>It is just another round of price rise coming soon so that they have cushioned it with these kind of nonsense.</p> <p>The next round of price rise - town council, bus, MRT, taxi, school fee.......</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:23:27 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322659:8208025 Medicated Oil http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322659 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by kopiosatu:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>my pay certainly didn't increase one bit.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br /> Thats the problem. GST increase. Electricty bill, no subsidy. Water bill increase. Pay no increase. Hopefully next time pay will increase.</p> Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:35:32 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322659:8207929 Beautiful951 http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322659 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by kopiosatu:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>my pay certainly didn't increase one bit.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Who ask you never become a minister?<img src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt="icon_lol.gif" /></p> Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:33:37 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322659:8207924 charlize http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322659 <p>my pay certainly didn't increase one bit.</p> Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:28:22 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322659:8207906 kopiosatu http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322659 <p>Well, lets just hope that it does not increase again. If it does, gonna faint.</p> <p>The GST la . Not the salary. Money increase better.</p> Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:25:16 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322659:8207898 Beautiful951 http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322659 <p>how come pocket money neber increase?</p> <p><img src= "http://www.sgforums.com/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt="icon_lol.gif" />&nbsp;<img src= "http://www.sgforums.com/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt="icon_lol.gif" />&nbsp;<img src= "http://www.sgforums.com/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt="icon_lol.gif" /></p> Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:16:27 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322659:8207880 Lin Yu http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322659 <p>That's why they have to come up with those reports that there are $2.50 meals available for the poorer ah peks and ah sohs.</p> <p>Make everything sound nice, then Wham!</p> <p>Give you the Wage/Inflation report. <img src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt="icon_lol.gif" /></p> Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:14:54 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322659:8207878 charlize http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322659 <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>CPI not equivalent to Inflation meh?</p> <p>We have negative real wage growth. <img src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt="icon_lol.gif" /></p> <p>Like walking on an escalator.</p> <p>Wage growth 5.9%, but Inflation 6% to 7.5%.</p> <p>Does the wage growth include the recent one time bonus?</p> <p>Does the wage growth apply to those earning less than $1,500?</p> <p>Mee siam mai hum seller and kopi tiam uncle got 5.9% increase?</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:41:17 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322659:8207826 maurizio13 http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322659 <p>Inflation 7% - 12% depending on what item is purchase. CPI is around 5%-7%</p> Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:58:40 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322659:8207772 mistyblue http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322659 <p><strong>Total wages in Singapore up by 7-year high of 5.9% in 2007<br /> Posted: 30 June 2008 1115 hrs</strong></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>SINGAPORE: Despite the fact that Singapore's economy grew by a lower 7.7 per cent in 2007 compared to 8.2 per cent in 2006, wages grew strongly last year.</p> <p>Total wages – basic wages plus bonuses – of private sector employees rose by a seven-year high of 5.9 per cent in 2007, higher than the increase of 4.5 per cent the year before.</p> <p>Although inflation was higher in 2007, resulting in a lower increase of real basic wage, the real total wage increase of 3.8 per cent last year was still higher than 2006's 3.5 per cent.</p> <p>Labour productivity growth, however, declined from 1.5 per cent in 2006 to -0.9 per cent in 2007, partly due to record employment gains last year.</p> <p>The National Wages Council (NWC), in its recommendation of wage guidelines this year, said companies should grant built-in wage increase commensurate with the companies' performance as well as business prospects so that such increments are sustainable.</p> <p>It added that companies which have done exceptionally well should consider granting workers a higher variable payment.</p> <p><br /> - CNA/so</p> Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:49:13 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322659:8207755 HyperFocal http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322659