http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322806 en-US 60 <p>Lee Kuan Yew, I love you because you are the unbeatable cockroach dictator.</p> Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:35:21 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322806:8211297 Fantagf http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322806 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by eagle:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>I still think some international politics are involved... And it is something that cannot really be publicised.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>I think the US called Singapore, ' eh Lee arh...buy our banks leh, later we cut trade ties with you.'</p> <p>CitiGroup say, 'eh Lee arh...brush up our coffers, later we pock (bankrupt), you sia suay sia...you are the special advisor of us leh...'</p> <p>Lee thinking, 'die liao...better buy.. dont need consider the price...'</p> <p>Calls GIC management, 'eh you guys better buy $XXBil of XXX US bank, i dont care what price you pay, just buy!'</p> <p>GIC management, ' but..but...ex leh the price...later will confirm go down wan..we got the statistics...'</p> <p>Lee, ' don't care, you better buy..later i sack you then you know arh!'</p> <p>Lee thinking, 'phew..my ass saved..give US a few Billlions nvm lah...can put there forever dont need cash out...people also wont know how much GIC annual returns anyway...CPF money confirm enough 1, at most increase minimum sum lor....'</p> <p>Then at the end of the month Lee thinking, 'wah money come in already!...eh Mr broker arh...help me short XXX US bank.' Sit at Own mansion near Plaza Singapura kiao ka drink tiger bear watch soccer.</p> <p>A joke for everyone to share. LOL</p> <p>Anyone read the Economic Hit Man? <img src= "/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/redones/biggrin.png" alt= "biggrin.png" /></p> Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:24:35 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322806:8211268 Evangel http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322806 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by eagle:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>I love LKY for</p> <p>playing an important role to Singapore's independence, both from British and Malaysia</p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br /> Share with you something from the past which is in Francis Seow's book "To Catch a Tartar".</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>In 1959, Singapore was granted limited self-government with a fully elected legislature with full powers to run its own internal affairs, save on matters of foreign policy and defence, (which included internal security) which remained in the hands of the British government expressed through the governor. In June that year, the general election saw teh P4P under LKY returned with an overwhelming majority to form the government. <strong>But LKY ostentatiously refused to take office unless until all his pro-communist colleagues, who had been detained without trial by the Labour Front government under the Preservation of Public Security Ordinance (PPSO) (a law enabling the government to detain persons, without trial, for subversive activities) had been unconditionally released from prison. A number of them were accordingly released.</strong></p> <p>Amongst them was <strong>C.V. Devan Nair, who was destined to become the future president of the Republic of Singapore</strong>. However, his tenure as such was to prove as uneasy as it was short-lived. <strong>He was a founder-member of P4P and a trusted confidant of LKY. And, until he fell out with him, enjoyed considerable influence over government policy directions.</strong></p> <p>In 1961, the inevitable P4P split occured; the breakaway faction, calling itself Barisan Socialis (Socialist Front), joined the ranks of the opposition. They comprised many of the selfsame person for whom LKY had so pretentiously refused to pick up the reins of government, unless they were released from prison. And, whom he was to arrest and put back behind bars with no trace of guilt or irony.</p> <p><strong>In August 1963, notwithstanding internal opposition to merger, Singapore became a constituent state within the Federation of Malaysia.</strong> Early in February the same year, the Internal Security Council, (consisting of the representatives of governments of Singapore, Malaya, and Great Britain) had ordered the arrest and detention of over hundred dissidents, including leading opposition Barisan Socialis members of parliament and trade union activist, "to safeguard national defence and the security of Singapore and the other territories of Malaysia." The mass arrest eased the entry of Singapore into the Federation of Malaysia and crippled a formidable parliamentary opposition. It does not require much imagination to fathom the posture adopted by the Singapore representatives, of whom LKY was one, at that fateful Internal Security Council meeting.</p> <p>Under the new constitutional arrangements, the powers hitherto exercised by the governor were transferred to the federal government. But Singapore shrewdly retained for itself certain powers relating to, among other things, finance, education, labour, and communications. <strong>This union with Malaya, which was intended "to endure for the next hundred years," was doomed to failure from its very inception owing to the political psyche and ambition of several leading personalities on either side of the causeway. It was a troubled union.</strong></p> <p><strong>In over zealously promoting Singapore's political philosophy of union with Malaysia, Lee clashed repeatedly with the federal government. Given his abrasive political style, he appeared fractious, blligerent, and insultingly intolerant and provocative in his dealings with federal ministers, which seriously offended the sensitivity of the Malay people. It was not long before tension built on political tension seriously threatened the stability and integrity of the new Federation.</strong></p> <p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">The benign and princely Prime Minister of Malaysia, Tungku Abdul Rahman Putra al-Haj, intervened. Rather than yielding to the strident cries of the Malay <em>ultras</em> to detain Lee under the Internal Security Act for instigating and inciting communal unrest, he decided to boot Lee and Singapore out of the Federation.</span> British Prime Minister Harold Wilson had apparently warned the Tungku that the British government would not take it too kindly if Lee were arrested and detained. Lee later rather overstated the situation: "Mr. Wilson who is a personal friend cannot see me languishing in jail for ever." Thus Singapore became a sovereign and independent nation.</strong></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Francis Seow was educated at Saint Joseph's Institution in Singapore and at the Honorable Society of the Middle Temple, London. He joined the Singapore Legal Service in 1956, serving as a deputy public prosecutor until 1972, when he entered private law practice. Prime Minister LKY approved his appointment as senior counsel to a Commission of Inquiry which "successfully exposed communist tactics" in the Secondary IV examination boycott by Chinese students. Seow received the award of the Public Administration (Gold) Medal for his work on the Commission, and was ultimately appointed Solicitor General of Singapore. Seow dates the beginnings of political friction between himself and LKY's government from 1986 when Seow was elected president of the Law Society. Seow was appointed the first Orville Schell Fellow, Yale Law School, in 1989, and in 1990, a Fellow of East Asian Legal Studies, Harvard Law School. A widower, Seow now lives with his daughter, Ingrid Annalisa, in Arlington, Massachusetts.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>I know very little of this great person Francis Seow, I've spoke to older folks, they said that he used to be the Mentor of LKY.</p> <p>Has the student surpassed the teacher?</p> Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:00:10 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322806:8211204 maurizio13 http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322806 <p>I love Lee Kuan Yew for his state propaganda media.</p> <p>I can save some money to avoid his bullshit.</p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:34:41 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322806:8211142 Poh Ah Pak http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322806 <p>Ok,where is my thread "Lee Kuan Yew,when are u going to die?"^^</p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:34:38 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322806:8211141 drawer http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322806 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by maurizio13:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>I love LKY too, without LKY we would have a stronger opposition&nbsp;and more balanced distribution of power in parliament.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>I love LKY for</p> <p>playing an important role to Singapore's independence, both from British and Malaysia</p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:28:23 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322806:8211115 eagle http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322806 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by maurizio13:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>actually should be fan lee fu ming. <img src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_mrgreen.gif" alt= "icon_mrgreen.gif" /></p> </div> </blockquote> <p>Fan Lee Fan <a href= "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lim_Chin_Siong" rel= "nofollow">Lim</a></p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:23:45 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322806:8211101 Agenda http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322806 <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>I love LKY too, without LKY we would have a stronger opposition&nbsp;and more balanced distribution of power in parliament.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:23:01 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322806:8211094 maurizio13 http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322806 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by redDUST:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>we all have to thank LKY's foresight on ubs, who else but lky could have thought of such masterstroke. now, another uniquely singapore achievement&nbsp;is waiting in the wing&nbsp;as ubs stands to `win' this year 2008 coveted award as the worst performer in the swiss market index. hands down if one might add.</p> <p>there are talks of a parade in orchard road to showcase this trophy to all singaporeans. afterall, we all have a share in ubs. we should be out in force to celebrate this. and don't worry, no arrest will be made as PAP is exempted from getting a permit.</p> <p>to compound this achievement, ubs is like to announced writedowns and losses of billions in the 2q quarterly result announcement next month. i hope lky can be there in the analysts briefing to share the good news with fellow singaporeans. cna should telecast this `live' since we should hear this news.</p> <p>so far, ubs is only $37b down the drain. small longkang according to lky. we must be patient as it is the canal we are targeting in 50 years.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>I still think some international politics are involved... And it is something that cannot really be publicised.</p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:20:12 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322806:8211088 eagle http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322806 <p>actually should be fan lee fu ming. <img src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_mrgreen.gif" alt= "icon_mrgreen.gif" /></p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:09:35 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322806:8211062 maurizio13 http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322806 <p><span class="">FAN QING FU MING</span>, <span class="">FAN QING FU MING</span>, <span class="">FAN QING FU MING</span><br /> <span class="">FAN QING FU MING</span>, <span class="">FAN QING FU MING</span>, <span class="">FAN QING FU MING</span><br /> <span class="">FAN QING FU MING</span>, <span class="">FAN QING FU MING</span>, <span class="">FAN QING FU MING</span><br /> <span class="">FAN QING FU MING</span>, <span class="">FAN QING FU MING</span>, <span class="">FAN QING FU MING</span><br /> <span class="">FAN QING FU MING</span>, <span class="">FAN QING FU MING</span>, <span class="">FAN QING FU MING</span><br /> <span class="">FAN QING FU MING</span>, <span class="">FAN QING FU MING</span>, <span class="">FAN QING FU MING</span><br /> <span class="">FAN QING FU MING</span>, <span class="">FAN QING FU MING</span>, <span class="">FAN QING FU MING</span></p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:07:00 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322806:8211055 Playstation 2 http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322806 <p>we must also `kowtow' to the gahmen because of them, singapore now has a presence in the bpl.</p> <p>manchester city, as some knows, was paid for by thaksin using the shincorp purchase money by our own `investment gurus'. i love to see ronaldinho (minus the pouch) plays for the blues next season because we can claim of him to be one of&nbsp;our own. maybe, he can also grace our s-league since he is after all a foreign talent, a sought after species in this part of the island.</p> <p>we must also lay claim to be virtual owners of queens park ranger fc. not long after singapore parted US$100m+ to bernie ecclestone for the right to host a f1 race here, bernie used this to buy QPR. i used to hate the hoops, but now, i cannot. it is rumored that QPR will send a feeder squad to the s-league as the 4th foreign team in the league. i must make it a point to buy the s-league seasons ticket next year if this happens.</p> <p>haiz....malaysia cup is but a distant memory.</p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:02:29 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322806:8211041 redDUST http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322806 <p>&lt;3 this thread.</p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:52:01 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322806:8211002 Midlusionz http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322806 <p>we all have to thank LKY's foresight on ubs, who else but lky could have thought of such masterstroke. now, another uniquely singapore achievement&nbsp;is waiting in the wing&nbsp;as ubs stands to `win' this year 2008 coveted award as the worst performer in the swiss market index. hands down if one might add.</p> <p>there are talks of a parade in orchard road to showcase this trophy to all singaporeans. afterall, we all have a share in ubs. we should be out in force to celebrate this. and don't worry, no arrest will be made as PAP is exempted from getting a permit.</p> <p>to compound this achievement, ubs is like to announced writedowns and losses of billions in the 2q quarterly result announcement next month. i hope lky can be there in the analysts briefing to share the good news with fellow singaporeans. cna should telecast this `live' since we should hear this news.</p> <p>so far, ubs is only $37b down the drain. small longkang according to lky. we must be patient as it is the canal we are targeting in 50 years.</p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:51:54 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322806:8211000 redDUST http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322806 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Playstation 2:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>I read Temasek holdings bought 9% of swiss bank (UBS) at around $45 per share…..now is $19.80….LKY can you please share with me how did you do it please because I belive our <span>LKY</span> is even better than Warren Buffett so I am willing to learn from the best. Even Warren Buffett chicken out on banking stocks</p> <p><a href= "http://nicholasmong.com/markets/singapore-to-invest-almost-us10b-in-swiss-bank-ubs/" rel= "nofollow">http://nicholasmong.com/markets/singapore-to-in…</a></p> </div> </blockquote> <p>Not that true... I believe Warren Buffett recently bought Wells Fargo &amp; Co</p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:41:14 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322806:8210955 eagle http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322806 <p>Yes, Singaporeans love Lee Kuan Yew and are so tamed by him.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:41:03 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322806:8210954 Dondontan http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322806 <p>Oeiii why u laugh?? Correct wat I think LKY should build more ERP what so when we go home, we can do our part too. We can contribute to our country economy. Like the who ah wat kennedy guy say "it's not what the country can do for you and what you can do for your country"</p> <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by a-Lost-9uY:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p><br /> wakakakaka</p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br /></p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:40:44 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322806:8210953 Playstation 2 http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322806 <p>According to my calculations which I could be wrong. Temasek lose more than <span class="">US4</span> billion right? But but there is a chance <span class="">UBS</span> might go up right? I also buying <span class="">UBS</span> but cheaper price <img title= "Very Happy" src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_biggrin.gif" alt= "Very Happy" /></p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:37:25 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322806:8210941 Playstation 2 http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322806 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Evangel:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>LKY help me build a new ERP gantry in front of my carpark entrance pls! I think its very fashionable hahahahhahahaa.....</p> <p>I think we need to increase CPF contributions and the CPF minimum sum some more. GIC need more money to buy more US banks leh, their earnings are "improving" more than DBS, OCBC and UOB banks lor. Can raise COE prices also? I wana trade COE earn pocket money, in the mean time help garmen earn more money also.</p> <p>Increase your minister's pay somemore also pls. Once GST up to 15%, GDP will look better mah. More garmen revenue. Income tax and corporate tax adjust down. Then ministers dont have to worry about being taxed more. Good right? <img src= "/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/redones/biggrin.png" alt= "biggrin.png" /></p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br /> wakakakaka</p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:37:04 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322806:8210939 a-Lost-9uY http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322806 <p>I read Temasek holdings bought 9% of swiss bank (UBS) at around $45 per share…..now is $19.80….LKY can you please share with me how did you do it please because I belive our <span class="">LKY</span> is even better than Warren Buffett so I am willing to learn from the best. Even Warren Buffett chicken out on banking stocks</p> <p><a href= "http://nicholasmong.com/markets/singapore-to-invest-almost-us10b-in-swiss-bank-ubs/" rel= "nofollow">http://nicholasmong.com/markets/singapore-to-in…</a></p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:29:13 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322806:8210921 Playstation 2 http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322806 <p>LKY help me build a new ERP gantry in front of my carpark entrance pls! I think its very fashionable hahahahhahahaa.....</p> <p>I think we need to increase CPF contributions and the CPF minimum sum some more. GIC need more money to buy more US banks leh, their earnings are "improving" more than DBS, OCBC and UOB banks lor. Can raise COE prices also? I wana trade COE earn pocket money, in the mean time help garmen earn more money also.</p> <p>Increase your minister's pay somemore also pls. Once GST up to 15%, GDP will look better mah. More garmen revenue. Income tax and corporate tax adjust down. Then ministers dont have to worry about being taxed more. Good right? <img src= "/images/emoticons/kde-3.5.8/redones/biggrin.png" alt= "biggrin.png" /></p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:12:16 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322806:8210890 Evangel http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322806 <p>pirated games not out yet how to upgrade?</p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:06:20 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322806:8210881 Poh Ah Pak http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322806 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Playstation 2:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>Long live Lee Kuan Yew. Do you guys love Lee Kuan Yew as much as I do? By the way, can we have the freedom of speech in Singapore please?</p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br /> Time to upgrade to playstation 3</p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:59:11 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322806:8210856 £ Ĭ €ڰ http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322806 <p>When is <span class="">GST</span> going to be 10% Mr Lee? <img title="Very Happy" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_biggrin.gif" alt= "Very Happy" /></p> <p>We need higher <span class="">GST</span> to curb inflation.</p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:53:53 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322806:8210843 Playstation 2 http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322806 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Playstation 2:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>Long live Lee Kuan Yew. Do you guys love Lee Kuan Yew as much as I do? By the way, can we have the freedom of speech in Singapore please?</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>I really appretiate LKY for building Singapore from scratch to what Singapore is today...</p> <p>BTW, we do have freedom of speech... its in our constitution...</p> <p><a href= "http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/non_version/cgi-bin/cgi_retrieve.pl?&amp;amp;actno=Reved-CONST&amp;amp;date=latest&amp;amp;method=part" rel= "nofollow">http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/non_version/cgi-bin/cgi_retrieve.pl?&amp;actno=Reved-CONST&amp;date=latest&amp;method=part</a></p> <h3><strong><strong>CONSTITUTION OF THE REPUBLIC OF SINGAPORE</strong></strong></h3> <p>Sec 14 (1) Subject to clauses (2) and (3) —</p> <p>(a) every citizen of Singapore has the right to freedom of speech and expression;</p> <p>However,</p> <p>(2) Parliament may by law impose —</p> <p>(a) on the rights conferred by clause (1) (<em>a</em>), <span style="color: #ff0000;">such restrictions as it considers necessary</span> or expedient in the <span style= "color: #ff0000;">interest of the security of Singapore</span> or any part thereof, <span style="color: #ff0000;">friendly relations with other countries</span>, <span style="color: #ff0000;">public order or morality</span> and restrictions designed to <span style= "color: #ff0000;">protect the privileges of Parliament</span> or to <span style="color: #ff0000;">provide against contempt of court</span>, <span style="color: #ff0000;">defamation</span> or <span style="color: #ff0000;">incitement to any offence</span>;</p> <p>In short, you can have your freedom of speech as long as you don't be a public nuisance, don't threaten the secuity of S'pore, don't offend our friendly relation with other countries, don't be immoral, don't create contempt of court, don't start a coup, don't lie and don't be racist.</p> Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:53:28 +0800 sgforums.com:10:322806:8210842 MohamedF http://sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322806