http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322849 en-US 60 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by 4getmenot:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>oh, any decent country would riot/protest as well if you knew the imported meats contained possible traces of mad cow diseases... and they riot or protest simply because they know its wrong..the whole gov cabinet relating to the incident resigned acknowledging the mistake.. wat would you have if it happened here... 'honest mistake?' 'lets move on'? yea i bet those two sentence is etched right into the heads of newborn babies the moment they are born in singapore.. :P but then again..you wouldn;t know becuz the media of yours just prefer painting pictures of the whole wide world in chaos and unrest...whiles yours is a blissful..peaceful... not to mention robotic society.. xD</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>unfortunately i've to agree with you that if our children grow up reading only the safe times they would be brainwashed to think that is the way all govts work.</p> Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:44:59 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:322849:8215458 lotus999 http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322849 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Yuminanako:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>I agree completely.</p> <p>In Spore we gotta pay GST 7%, Tax, COE, ERP, even TV also need licence fee etc.</p> <p>Everything is increasing but our salary never increase. my friend those low to medium&nbsp;rank public servant pay is also lower than market value but but gotta pay tax as well even money not enuf and now no more pension or whatsoever...</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>My sis pay less than 30k a year, not even enuf for a credit card but still need to pay tax.....</p> <p>I like to at at Restaurant but nowadays the GST+Svc charge&nbsp;really kills me about 10 dollar already</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>But I take pride of Singaporeans as they still can survive without complaining like other country (riot etc just bcos of imported meat...)</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>oh, any decent country would riot/protest as well if you knew the imported meats contained possible traces of mad cow diseases... and they riot or protest simply because they know its wrong..the whole gov cabinet relating to the incident resigned acknowledging the mistake.. wat would you have if it happened here... 'honest mistake?' 'lets move on'? yea i bet those two sentence is etched right into the heads of newborn babies the moment they are born in singapore.. :P but then again..you wouldn;t know becuz the media of yours just prefer painting pictures of the whole wide world in chaos and unrest...whiles yours is a blissful..peaceful... not to mention robotic society.. xD</p> Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:47:41 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:322849:8214904 4getmenot http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322849 <p>Ops sorrie but i just have that though when reading this...</p> <p>I am sick easily so feel the suffering, think u r right, i kiasi, hehe</p> Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:03:19 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:322849:8214189 Yuminanako http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322849 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Yuminanako:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>Now everything need money. Gotta buck up to earn more to survive.</p> <p>Just hope we r healthy then happy, If we have illness then how much money also never enuf!!! : )</p> <p>terminal illness cost not only urself but will be a burden to your family etc too esp in singapore since cost of living are so high</p> </div> </blockquote> <p><br /> YOu are talking stuff off topic.&nbsp;&nbsp; Are you a Singaporean?&nbsp;&nbsp; You sound like those kiasu kiasi type.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:29:06 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:322849:8214123 Fantagf http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322849 <p>Now everything need money. Gotta buck up to earn more to survive.</p> <p>Just hope we r healthy then happy, If we have illness then how much money also never enuf!!! : )</p> <p>terminal illness cost not only urself but will be a burden to your family etc too esp in singapore since cost of living are so high</p> Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:25:40 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:322849:8214114 Yuminanako http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322849 <p>Pee M Lee Hsien Loong is "fang chang xian tiao da yu".&nbsp;</p> Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:03:43 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:322849:8214067 Fantagf http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322849 <p>I agree completely.</p> <p>In Spore we gotta pay GST 7%, Tax, COE, ERP, even TV also need licence fee etc.</p> <p>Everything is increasing but our salary never increase. my friend those low to medium&nbsp;rank public servant pay is also lower than market value but but gotta pay tax as well even money not enuf and now no more pension or whatsoever...</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>My sis pay less than 30k a year, not even enuf for a credit card but still need to pay tax.....</p> <p>I like to at at Restaurant but nowadays the GST+Svc charge&nbsp;really kills me about 10 dollar already</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>But I take pride of Singaporeans as they still can survive without complaining like other country (riot etc just bcos of imported meat...)</p> Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:30:03 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:322849:8213929 Yuminanako http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322849 <p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;"><br /></span></strong></p> <p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;"><br /></span></strong></p> <p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;"><br /></span></strong></p> <p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;"><br /></span></strong></p> <p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;"><br /></span></strong></p> <p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">If they don't tax, they cannot take so much public money for their salaries and they cannot go shopping in europe and US, losing so much money to the foreigners.</span></strong></p> <p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;"><br /></span></strong></p> <p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">If they don't give back a little, their ass-sniffing dogs have nothing to sell their propaganda.</span></strong></p> <p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;"><br /></span></strong></p> <p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">So if you do not want them to take, you have to weaken their power and to do that, youi have to support Dr Chee Soon Juan. Otherwise, don't bother. It is a waste of time giving feedback to dishonorable people.<br /></span></strong></p> <p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;"><br /></span></strong></p> <p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;"><br /></span></strong></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:12:16 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:322849:8213753 AndrewPKYap http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322849 <p>we have shit here and taxes..</p> Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:08:41 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:322849:8213748 domonkassyu http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322849 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Melbournite:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>its true of what one forumite here said, Taxation is higher in other &nbsp;coutries but the disable income and purchasing power is higher in those countries. In addition, u get pension social /unemployment benefits and subsidised care.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>He speak the truth.</p> Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:21:35 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:322849:8213656 Midlusionz http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322849 <p>its true of what one forumite here said, Taxation is higher in other &nbsp;coutries but the disable income and purchasing power is higher in those countries. In addition, u get pension social /unemployment benefits and subsidised care.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:02:40 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:322849:8213603 Melbournite http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322849 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by ribo:</div> <div class="quote_body"> <p>You people are all nuts complaining.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>OUR TAX ARE one of the lowest among developed countries.</p> <p>Not that i like the government</p> <p>.</p> </div> </blockquote> <p>Other countries don't have COE, nor do people who take taxis need to pay ERP</p> <p>In addition, after their supposedly higher tax rate, their final disposable income is still higher than that of Singapore's for the same education standards and experience.</p> Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:28:10 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:322849:8213564 eagle http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322849 <p>You people are all nuts complaining.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>OUR TAX ARE one of the lowest among developed countries.</p> <p>Not that i like the government</p> <p>.</p> Thu, 03 Jul 2008 04:02:59 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:322849:8213463 ribo http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322849 <p>but Sg gov is&nbsp;stingy. &nbsp;</p> Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:17:43 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:322849:8213311 Arapahoe http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322849 <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>let's put is this way .... it's only understandable neh ? ... since our goverment would never be in a money loosing business (okieeeee, that's not entirely accurate, but let's forget about temasek holdings and our soverign fund for now) ......</p> <p>if they are just going to increase the GST (and the ERP, utilities, transport costs, and everything else), but they'll offset it all by giving everything back to the people, then the whole exercise is rather pointless, no ? .... may as well don't increase at all eh ...</p> <p>so .... don't expect too much ...</p> <p>if you're not happy about things, about the constantly rising costs of living, while the fat cats live it up with million dollar salaries, about your deflating pay checks in the face of hordes of cheap foreign labour, about your CPF which soon won't even belong to you anymore .... then you know what to do at the next elections, neh ? ...</p> <p>I know what to do .... do you ? ... would you ? ...</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:16:44 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:322849:8213207 Fatum http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322849 <p>Its just like they collect from us $3 a month for the rest of your life.Then they give you&nbsp;2 dollar for 1 to&nbsp;3&nbsp;times only.so therefore&nbsp;it will be ($2 to $6)&nbsp;vs $36 in a year.&nbsp;So if u tink for long term,it isnt really usefull. Btw the newspaper nor the TV&nbsp;isnt always that accurate anymore,as they are controlled and fed by the P4P.They mostly post news that favors the P4P and their motives.</p> Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:09:09 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:322849:8213187 Sjabsucks http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322849 <p>Sg govt has been over-taxing us. It is now returning a very little bit of the huge amount of tax it collects from us.</p> Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:11:02 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:322849:8212082 pearlie27 http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322849 <p>in a way, sg is better then other countries that only take but nv give..at least sg bothered to wayang abit..give us some loose change to tide over GST increase.</p> Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:42:56 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:322849:8211979 domonkassyu http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322849 <p>Fully agree wit U......It's time to wake up Singaporean........</p> Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:09:10 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:322849:8211806 taylee http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322849 <p>like mentioned before liao.</p> <p>they give us $1 to vote for them.</p> <p>we give them back $3 because we voted for them.</p> <p>i hope the upcoming generations know what to do during the next GE.</p> Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:04:51 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:322849:8211802 Chris1988 http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322849 <p>nothing wrong mah</p> <p>The GST credits were supposed to help you pay off the increase in tax</p> <p>so in the end, for the poor who spend less, it is very beneficial, and for the rich who spend much more, they get taxed more</p> Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:03:12 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:322849:8211798 eagle http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322849 <p>"GOV" are giving us the second GST credits on 1st July 08, but also increase of Electrical bill on this day.......U collect little $ from them and have to&nbsp;paid back to their pocket $$$$ triple or even more????</p> <p>We rather "GOV" dun't give us any $ becos how much they give to their citizen, they will collect back triple or even more&nbsp;by increasing in "TAX"&nbsp;,"ERP" N "Bill"......</p> <p>(BU NA BAI BU NA)Right!!!!!</p> <p>Did Singaporean realise that when "GOV" giving so call big $$$ to their citizen, news paper will post up the "TOPS" news to the whole world telling "Wow" Singapore "GOV" giving so so much $$$ to their citizen ...??!!!. And you guys think again ,why the so&nbsp;call the "NEWS" paper&nbsp;not even report&nbsp;any figure amount&nbsp;being "TAX" from the citizen itself compare to "GOV" giving amount....??????</p> <p>Of course "Revenue"&nbsp;figure will be much much higher then "Giving" figure.........so what's the point of showing "TOPS NEWS" for it!!! Laughing stock to the world......</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:52:12 +0800 www.sgforums.com:10:322849:8211784 taylee http://www.sgforums.com/forums/10/topics/322849