Penalties for fare evasion on buses and MRT trains kick in . replied by jayh272416 @ Sun, 06 Jul 2008 12:19:46 +0800

jayh272416 — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 12:19:46 +0800

bs. I was on a 105 once. There was a lady alight that time say "Tap at entrance". This should get $20 fine right away leh. But the bc just ask her to tap at front, then tap at rear and go.

Penalties for fare evasion on buses and MRT trains kick in . replied by googoomuck @ Sun, 06 Jul 2008 11:58:10 +0800

googoomuck — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 11:58:10 +0800

I wonder how the $9m losses were calculated or estimated? If the cheats were caught by the inspectors, they would have been made to pay more for the ride. Isn't the losses been recovered straight away, plus with a little 'profit'.

If there are fare cheats but they are not caught, how does one know how much is lost.

There's no loss. Only targeted profits not achieved.

Penalties for fare evasion on buses and MRT trains kick in . replied by eagle @ Sun, 06 Jul 2008 07:45:04 +0800

eagle — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 07:45:04 +0800

Originally posted by monoslayer:

frankfurt is €80

I thought it is €40?

Penalties for fare evasion on buses and MRT trains kick in . replied by 00011000 @ Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:10:32 +0800

00011000 — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:10:32 +0800

knn fine fine fine

They think everyone who cheats are rich falla. If got money wouldn't cheat in the first place - only falla no money than cheat, wat.

Penalties for fare evasion on buses and MRT trains kick in . replied by 798 @ Sat, 05 Jul 2008 00:15:19 +0800

798 — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 00:15:19 +0800

Originally posted by Pitot:

oh i have seen people board from the back but all did so after they tap their cards on the front becos people simply refuse to move back.

i have already done dat twice. the bus machiam at the back got ghost so no choice but board from the back since the bloody driver refuse to open the front door.

Penalties for fare evasion on buses and MRT trains kick in . replied by TooFree @ Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:01:30 +0800

TooFree — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:01:30 +0800

Can the recovered loss be use to stem further increment in bus fare instead?

In my humble opinion, why dont they try fine-tuning the current system to be more robust than having more officials to conduct frequent check on the bus commuters as I am concern that the latter might expend additional overhead compared to a one time rectify cost.

Penalties for fare evasion on buses and MRT trains kick in . replied by monoslayer @ Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:34:36 +0800

monoslayer — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:34:36 +0800

Originally posted by kramnave:

NSW AU$100 fine on the spot

frankfurt is €80

Penalties for fare evasion on buses and MRT trains kick in . replied by FireIce @ Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:31:11 +0800

FireIce — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:31:11 +0800

they overcharge or charge wrongly will they compensate?

Penalties for fare evasion on buses and MRT trains kick in . replied by purpledragon84 @ Fri, 04 Jul 2008 09:00:14 +0800

purpledragon84 — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 09:00:14 +0800

Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:

I drive, so I take bus occasionally and therefore unfamiliar with the charges and what if I ask the bus driver the fare and he gives me the incorrect fare?

If I am over-charged, does the bus company gets a fine like the commuters that under pay?

no la andrew.. lol.. u board bus tap, alight bus tap.. den the amount is deducted accordingly la..ppl cheat on the fare by tapping the ezlink card WAY before they alight, so they pay less..

unless u are saying u put coin la.. den i duno..

Penalties for fare evasion on buses and MRT trains kick in . replied by AndrewPKYap @ Fri, 04 Jul 2008 08:26:41 +0800

AndrewPKYap — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 08:26:41 +0800

I drive, so I take bus occasionally and therefore unfamiliar with the charges and what if I ask the bus driver the fare and he gives me the incorrect fare?

If I am over-charged, does the bus company gets a fine like the commuters that under pay?

Penalties for fare evasion on buses and MRT trains kick in . replied by hamidisaidi @ Fri, 04 Jul 2008 08:17:00 +0800

hamidisaidi — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 08:17:00 +0800

Hmm...let me get this straight...

Previously, reasons and justification for increasing fares is due to losses made by cheats. So are not all these 'losses' covered by the increase in fares? Surely, all these issues of cheats etc; the risk and projected losses have been calculated. They can't be working on perfect scenarios situation right? No business does that.

Even so, it is claimed they made a loss of 9 million due to cheats. Nothing is said about the overall profit/loss of the bus company. For all we know, even after this '$9 million loss', they could still be ending up with a positive annual turnover; due to the increase in fares.

And are they not punishing the drivers as well for these losses? How bout rewarding them with higher pay should fare increases? I will gladly pay a bit extra if our bus drivers are properly rewardly but alas; the richer gets richer, the poorer gets poorer.

Penalties for fare evasion on buses and MRT trains kick in . replied by Atobe @ Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:29:44 +0800

Atobe — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:29:44 +0800

Why has the government pass a legislation to protect the business of some selected private enterprise and not others ?

If evading paying of fares to the privatised transport companies is considered a crime, why has the government not pass similar legislations that makes it a crime for defaulters of commercial transactions ?

Is this not an abuse of the legal system to protect the enterprises that still belong to the Government for all intent and purposes except in name ?

This clearly confirms the pseudo nature of the entire privatisation scheme of the various public monopolies.

Penalties for fare evasion on buses and MRT trains kick in . replied by Pitot @ Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:06:16 +0800

Pitot — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:06:16 +0800

oh i have seen people board from the back but all did so after they tap their cards on the front becos people simply refuse to move back.

Penalties for fare evasion on buses and MRT trains kick in . replied by whiskers @ Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:50:33 +0800

whiskers — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:50:33 +0800

The new system is meant to help stem the loss of about nine million Singapore dollars each year from fare evasion. - CNA/vm

Does it mean after introducing this system, the fare price will adjust accordingly?

Penalties for fare evasion on buses and MRT trains kick in . replied by BrUtUs @ Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:46:24 +0800

BrUtUs — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:46:24 +0800

waste of resource...

Penalties for fare evasion on buses and MRT trains kick in . replied by whiskers @ Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:45:22 +0800

whiskers — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:45:22 +0800

Originally posted by pigsticker:

live by the sword, die by the sword...

退出江湖·already

Penalties for fare evasion on buses and MRT trains kick in . replied by whiskers @ Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:44:47 +0800

whiskers — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:44:47 +0800

Originally posted by Pitot:

u mean u rather take out ur fare card and slide it into the machine? waste of time.

how long since u last took a bus?

can squeeze on board without tapping? share how u do that leh.

morning peak hours... bus very crowded... driver cant notice ma so many beep beep beep.. so u can squeeze into the ppl without tapping.... done it once or twice only lah long time ago... cos too frustrated by the crowd...

Some ppl even board from the exit... cos the front door is all jammed up... bo bian if nt late for work...

But still if bus nt crowded, very hard to cheat....

Penalties for fare evasion on buses and MRT trains kick in . replied by pigsticker @ Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:33:08 +0800

pigsticker — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:33:08 +0800

live by the sword, die by the sword...

Penalties for fare evasion on buses and MRT trains kick in . replied by Pitot @ Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:32:04 +0800

Pitot — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:32:04 +0800

u mean u rather take out ur fare card and slide it into the machine? waste of time.

how long since u last took a bus?

can squeeze on board without tapping? share how u do that leh.

Penalties for fare evasion on buses and MRT trains kick in . replied by whiskers @ Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:29:52 +0800

whiskers — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:29:52 +0800

Everymorning the bus so crowded.... they can squeeze and find me nvr tap I say them good....

When they first launched the EZ link card that year,they said this card can solve the fare cheating problem....?then now...

.... hai they are like sunwukong got 72 bian.... maybe nxt up is implanted ezlink... liddat sure cannot escape.

Penalties for fare evasion on buses and MRT trains kick in . replied by Frogleg888 @ Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:35:17 +0800

Frogleg888 — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:35:17 +0800

When they first launched the EZ link card that year,they said this card can solve the fare cheating problem....?then now...

Penalties for fare evasion on buses and MRT trains kick in . replied by hloc @ Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:53:30 +0800

hloc — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:53:30 +0800