Sg charges 19 for protest on rising prices replied by Poh Ah Pak @ Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:27:04 +0800

Poh Ah Pak — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:27:04 +0800

Isn't PAP a democratic party?

No they are not.

Go and check out constitution of PAP.

Only a small clique of people wields power in PAP.

The ringleader is Lee Kuan Yew.

Sg charges 19 for protest on rising prices replied by Sialution @ Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:22:35 +0800

Sialution — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:22:35 +0800

Originally posted by 2cansam:

One of the solutions to the problem can be, the government should encourage everyone to donate food items to the poor, when they are the ones severely affected by the rise in rising prices.

Maybe high paying leaders should take the lead. "everyone" had already donated to ERP, SMRT, Comfortdelgro etc in the recent hikes.. who still have money to donate? Not me... Me have to save money to pay for increase in electricity bills so I can surf net at home and not only in office.

Sg charges 19 for protest on rising prices replied by Short Ninja @ Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:07:39 +0800

Short Ninja — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:07:39 +0800

Super Tulan people will do anything to let the World be aware of what Singapore Garmen does at home and so in turn makes the PAP Tulan.The rest of us are just plain Tulan.Unfortunately,you can count with your fungers who are the first group of people.

Sg charges 19 for protest on rising prices replied by Vendettus @ Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:02:54 +0800

Vendettus — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:02:54 +0800

Uh...Where, may I ask, is the 'democracy' in all this?

Isn't PAP a democratic party? That's what I heard people say, that is.

If even peaceful protests are disallowed, then it certainly leaves one wondering what kind of political system we have here in our country. Dictatorship? Totalism? Or simply I-give-orders-as-I-like kind of system?

Sg charges 19 for protest on rising prices replied by Fantagf @ Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:56:16 +0800

Fantagf — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:56:16 +0800

Originally posted by 2cansam:

Singaporeans are not afraid of the government , if we're afraid, wouldn't we be pissing our pants or holding our breath when Parliamentary session is televised during our night time TV schedules?

If we're afraid, wouldn't there be substantial votes for PAP MP's during the last GE to throw opposition members off balance?

Come on, I feel our government has done an excellent job in ensuring our path is littered with few garbage ( eg . SARS crisis, 9/11 and Iraq War ). In comparison to other countries where political problem arises every few months, there's a 0.001 % chance of that occurring in Singapore. when was the last time a political crises with a magnitude comparable to that during the 1960's occurred (the MCP vs PAP)? Political problems inevitably leads to economic problems, they're just like siamese twins.

Maybe we can refer to it as a blessing in disguise, however I feel that the recent price hikes is unavoidable. With rising global food prices, which government would be willing to subsidise the increase in costs? in the end, even if they do, policies will be brought forward to increase GST ( which haven't happen to us ever since the earliest rise in food prices were announced )

One of the solutions to the problem can be, the government should encourage everyone to donate food items to the poor, when they are the ones severely affected by the rise in rising prices.

Another blind lackey on board.

Sg charges 19 for protest on rising prices replied by 2cansam @ Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:44:55 +0800

2cansam — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:44:55 +0800

Singaporeans are not afraid of the government , if we're afraid, wouldn't we be pissing our pants or holding our breath when Parliamentary session is televised during our night time TV schedules?

If we're afraid, wouldn't there be substantial votes for PAP MP's during the last GE to throw opposition members off balance?

Come on, I feel our government has done an excellent job in ensuring our path is littered with few garbage ( eg . SARS crisis, 9/11 and Iraq War ). In comparison to other countries where political problem arises every few months, there's a 0.001 % chance of that occurring in Singapore. when was the last time a political crises with a magnitude comparable to that during the 1960's occurred (the MCP vs PAP)? Political problems inevitably leads to economic problems, they're just like siamese twins.

Maybe we can refer to it as a blessing in disguise, however I feel that the recent price hikes is unavoidable. With rising global food prices, which government would be willing to subsidise the increase in costs? in the end, even if they do, policies will be brought forward to increase GST ( which haven't happen to us ever since the earliest rise in food prices were announced )

One of the solutions to the problem can be, the government should encourage everyone to donate food items to the poor, when they are the ones severely affected by the rise in rising prices.

Sg charges 19 for protest on rising prices replied by Fantagf @ Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:46:09 +0800

Fantagf — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:46:09 +0800

Originally posted by domonkassyu:

nonononono..they jus dun wan dirty linen be washed in public..imagine outside world knws sg finally allow demostrations..again..harry lee will say the protests are groundless or induced insanity..the gst hike is after to benefit poor people....my azz..

NO news about using GST to help the poor. GST hike benefits the PAP for salary increment.

Sg charges 19 for protest on rising prices replied by domonkassyu @ Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:22:01 +0800

domonkassyu — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:22:01 +0800

Originally posted by Cowbaycowboo:

they worried cannot control cos they know our forces are not that competent .....they should allow protest to be held...say inside police compound or changi prison....sure can control one ..

nonononono..they jus dun wan dirty linen be washed in public..imagine outside world knws sg finally allow demostrations..again..harry lee will say the protests are groundless or induced insanity..the gst hike is after to benefit poor people....my azz..

Sg charges 19 for protest on rising prices replied by Short Ninja @ Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:45:58 +0800

Short Ninja — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:45:58 +0800

Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:

Last time only Chee.

Now 19.

Next time hundred.

Than thousand.

Than PAP can go and die.

It wont happen cuz Singaporean Bo Chee ...Ok,only one Chee.

19 is the all time record and as long as PAP is in power it would take a few more decade to break this record.

Sg charges 19 for protest on rising prices replied by Fantagf @ Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:21:28 +0800

Fantagf — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:21:28 +0800

Originally posted by jgho83:

WTF!!! Did I read correctly? Anyone who wants to prot**t need a permit??? Tell moi tis is a jok*.

Just imagine...

"Eh, excuse me Mr Man-in-blue-uniform-who-slack-like-e garmen... I want to apply for a permit to prot**t against something... can you pass me the form to be filled up?"

to which the reply could be...

"Ok sure, this is the form to be filled up."

Next thing u knw, the paper flys to the dustbin and few days later u receive a letter asking u to wash ur butt and get ready to squat.

YOu read correctly, nothing wrong with you. It is one of the many selfish, stupid stuff from the gahmen to protect their selfish interest. A dumb, wicked gahmen at work.

Sg charges 19 for protest on rising prices replied by jgho83 @ Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:20:29 +0800

jgho83 — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:20:29 +0800

WTF!!! Did I read correctly? Anyone who wants to prot**t need a permit??? Tell moi tis is a jok*.

Just imagine...

"Eh, excuse me Mr Man-in-blue-uniform-who-slack-like-e garmen... I want to apply for a permit to prot**t against something... can you pass me the form to be filled up?"

to which the reply could be...

"Ok sure, this is the form to be filled up."

Next thing u knw, the paper flys to the dustbin and few days later u receive a letter asking u to wash ur butt and get ready to squat.

Sg charges 19 for protest on rising prices replied by -_sky_- @ Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:34:08 +0800

-_sky_- — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:34:08 +0800

u guys shud google “citizen online mda seize” keyword on google got this article about a vid the sdp made that was seize by the mda halfway into the showing they posted this vid there

Sg charges 19 for protest on rising prices replied by shade343 @ Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:05:33 +0800

shade343 — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:05:33 +0800

Originally posted by Evangel:

Another foolish act by CSJ, know the law and yet defy the law.

Only 19 people, the numbers are not significant enough. Get at least a few hundreds or thousands then say. 19 people is just plain foolish.

Foolish and not charismatic enough to gather enough people also.

Think of more creative ways to communicate with the citizens, keep breaking the law just turn us off!

Disclaimer: I'm not a PAP supporter of whatsoever, I read widely from the net and is not influenced by PAP progapanda. I support change and not foolish acts by opposition.

Is the government's action even constituitional to begin with? What? A permit needed to protest? Hows that constituitional ?

Sg charges 19 for protest on rising prices replied by drawer @ Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:30:59 +0800

drawer — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:30:59 +0800

Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:

Last time only Chee.

Now 19.

Next time hundred.

Than thousand.

Than PAP can go and die.

LOL.

When thousands appear,the crowds will storm into LKY's house n ripped him apart^^

Sg charges 19 for protest on rising prices replied by Fantagf @ Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:20:54 +0800

Fantagf — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:20:54 +0800

Originally posted by Midlusionz:

No one wan their homeland to be gone but look at how things are going now ..

Do your part to help in the next election.

Sg charges 19 for protest on rising prices replied by Fantagf @ Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:19:13 +0800

Fantagf — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:19:13 +0800

Originally posted by 00011000:

It doesn't work this way. Last time the opp. protested in 4. All of of them in diff locations but at the same time. All of them got charged.

Protest itself is offense here, regardless of number.

And this antique law needs to be changed.

LKY and party make it an offence because they are afraid of threat when there are large number of people gather for one purpose. Almost everything they do, they do it mostly for their own selfish reasons than for the good of the people. Indeed, we don't need such a self serving govt to continue to serve the public.

Sg charges 19 for protest on rising prices replied by Midlusionz @ Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:18:51 +0800

Midlusionz — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:18:51 +0800

Originally posted by Beautiful951:

Really, Do you want SG to fall? I don't. Don't we all live here?

No one wan their homeland to be gone but look at how things are going now ..

Sg charges 19 for protest on rising prices replied by Fantagf @ Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:15:57 +0800

Fantagf — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:15:57 +0800

Protests in Singapore are rare and an assembly of five or more people requires a permit from the police. Singapore says it needs tough laws on assembly for the maintenance of peace and stability.

Main reason is LKY is fearful protest will pose threat to him and party. It is also for self serving reason why evil LKY and party refuse to allow protests in Singapore. If protest means no peace and stability, Hong Kong by now would have been a chaotic country. LKY and party needs to have tight control over the people to keep their rice bowls.

Sg charges 19 for protest on rising prices replied by Beautiful951 @ Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:36:41 +0800

Beautiful951 — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:36:41 +0800

Originally posted by Midlusionz:

Seriously, LKY can do all he want .. I hope he live to see SG fall.

Really, Do you want SG to fall? I don't. Don't we all live here?

Sg charges 19 for protest on rising prices replied by 00011000 @ Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:25:21 +0800

00011000 — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:25:21 +0800

Look at podcast. This medium was harnessed by the opp. during the last election. If I recall correctly, it was started by Chee's party.

The govt came down hard on the opp. But as this technology was new, the law was somewhat inadequate. The opp. was lucky to get away. Now the PAP govt is thinking of using podcast. They know that if they can't beat these new tools, they have to use or to control them.

My point is this. If there are no ppl, whether opp. or ordinary citizen, to push the boundary of freedom of expression, will thing get moving? Will the govt ever bother?

Sg charges 19 for protest on rising prices replied by jgho83 @ Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:35:39 +0800

jgho83 — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:35:39 +0800

They can restrict anything they want, but this only make us grow more hatred.

Sg charges 19 for protest on rising prices replied by Poh Ah Pak @ Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:35:15 +0800

Poh Ah Pak — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:35:15 +0800

keep breaking the law just turn us off!

Activities like these against PAP regime turns me ON.

Sg charges 19 for protest on rising prices replied by googoomuck @ Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:30:23 +0800

googoomuck — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:30:23 +0800

Originally posted by Evangel:

Another foolish act by CSJ, know the law and yet defy the law.

Only 19 people, the numbers are not significant enough. Get at least a few hundreds or thousands then say. 19 people is just plain foolish.

Foolish and not charismatic enough to gather enough people also.

Think of more creative ways to communicate with the citizens, keep breaking the law just turn us off!

Disclaimer: I'm not a PAP supporter of whatsoever, I read widely from the net and is not influenced by PAP progapanda. I support change and not foolish acts by opposition.

If you can make the PAP listen by simply tapping on their shoulders, I salute you.

Sg charges 19 for protest on rising prices replied by Midlusionz @ Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:12:04 +0800

Midlusionz — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:12:04 +0800

Seriously, LKY can do all he want .. I hope he live to see SG fall.

Sg charges 19 for protest on rising prices replied by 00011000 @ Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:09:57 +0800

00011000 — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:09:57 +0800

Originally posted by annoy-you-must:

We have Youtubes. We have Facebooks. We have Emails. The opposition parties have their own websites.

So what if the local media is controlled by the government?

These are not mass communication tools in the right sense. What you mentioned are communication tool and not mass communication tool.

Not the one-to-one channels. Mainly, the one-to-many channels, with the action and reaction being instance and stimultaneous. Mass communication involves newspaper, magazine, TV, rally, public speech etc. PAP is still afraid of the people gaining access to such means.

But I hear they may change the law to allow for podcast. With the kind of budget and network, who you think have the edge?

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