Pl take note that Ravi's arrest most likely leading to internal dispute

inside SDP,probably between CSJ and Uncle Yap.

pl read my 13.05.2008 posts.

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U can accuse PAP ,LKY or whoever doing whatever in present day

or  during Japanese occupation.Of course,u have to face the consequence.

But there is no sure ticket than insulting other religion to catch

the attention and guranteed actions of police.

I can give u Gurantee that Police will act.

But i am troubled by Uncle Yap's story that the disorderly behavior

 happened in Sri Marimman Temple.

Or did he misbehave in both?

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/366973/1/.html

Lawyer M Ravi arrested and charged with disturbing mosque prayers
By Satish Cheney, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 11 August 2008 2332 hrs

SINGAPORE : Singapore lawyer M Ravi was charged in court on Monday for disturbing a religious assembly.

The lawyer, who has represented the Singapore Democratic Party in previous civil cases, was allegedly disrupting evening prayers at the Jamae Chulia mosque on August 3 at about 7.30pm.

He is said to have been shouting and interrupting the religious proceeding and when approached by devotees, is alleged to have verbally abused them.

According to the police, this is not the first time the lawyer has behaved this way.

They said he is known to have behaved violently and abusively at places of worship, shops, the Subordinate Courts, and other public areas.

Bail has been set at S$8,000.

Police say behaviour that undermines racial and religious harmony will not be tolerated, especially when the provocative act takes place in a place of worship while prayers are being conducted. - CNA/ms

 

http://uncleyap-news.blogspot.com/2008/08/familee-leegime-arrested-charged-m-ravi.html

Monday, August 11, 2008

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famiLEE LEEgime Arrested & Charged M Ravi to White-Wash itself

This morning between 10am to 11am, human rights lawyer Mr M Ravi was arrested in his own office and charged in Court 26 at about 4pm. I was informed and attended his mentioning in Court 26 at about 5pm.

Mr. Ravi face 2 charges, including disorderly behavior and disrupting religious ceremony at Hindu Temple of Sir Marianman (Temple Street China Town). This was for an incident happened on 3.Aug.2008 (Sunday) at the Hindu Temple. However, the famiLEE LEEgime's mata did not arrest nor summoned Mr. Ravi for any such investigation during the many days lapsed including National Day. I recalled Mr. Ravi telling me last week that he was assaulted at the temple before many witnesses, as I was on trial then with Dr. CSJ daily for the last 4 weeks, I had not much idea what happened at that temple.

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2.Will Chee Soon Juan and buddies pl verify story before they post

I list below a old story that CSJ pasted a news on SDP site that Ravi was detained

by police before he flied to other country.

But in fact ,Ravi was checked into a private psychiatric and psychological

hospital.U would be naive if u think CSJ did not know

the whereabout of Ravi when he copied and pasted the news from

FaLun Gong site.

 

;;;

 

 

 

 

 

Politically motivated charges... despots.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:

Politically motivated charges... despots.

how do u know or just pure guess?

what has happened inside SDP and what happened between them and

Chia Ti Lik,arising from the arrest of lawyer M Ravi?

First,Chia deleted the link

of his blog http://chiatilik.wordpress.com/

to

http://uncleyap-news.blogspot.com/

during the day time on Tue 12 Aug.The link still valid in the morning.

secondly,CSJ appealed for correct statement

We also call on activist bloggers to refrain from exploiting this matter by posting inaccurate statements about Mr Ravi's situation and stoking sentiment against the authorities, including the police.

http://www.yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/837-sdp-warns-activists-not-to-exploit-ravis-situation

2.Damn wrong info by Uncle Yap

In his 11 Aug 2008 blog,he claimed:

Mr. Ravi face 2 charges, including disorderly behavior and disrupting religious ceremony at Hindu Temple of Sir Marianman (Temple Street China Town). This was for an incident happened on 3.Aug.2008 (Sunday) at the Hindu Temple.

3.Charges of Ravi

disrupting religion workship inside a mosque

abusive language to a workshipper

What is wrong with Uncle Yap?

According to Uncle Yap,Ravi was arrested in the morning of Monday

and appeared in court in the same afternoon.

Now Yap said Ravi had not eaten'' since the night before''.

Police could not be responsible for Ravi not taking any foods in the evening

of Sunday and Monday breakfast!!

Has Ravi requested for any drink or foods in police station?

http://uncleyap-news.blogspot.com/

12 aug 2008

Yesterday in Court 26, after he was charged with the 2 aboves, Mr. M Ravi told the judge that he had no food since the night before, and was not given any food nor drink at Cantonment Police Complex where he was arrested and detained, he had been hungry all the way until he was in court.

It's a Hindu temple lah, not a mosque.

 

ai ya!!u talk about Ravi lost passport in Sri Marianman Temple in July

2008,agrued with Temple maangement and police was called.

I am talking about his alleged disrupting religion procession

and abusing some one inside a mosque on 03 aug 2008.

We both are correct.Tx.

 

 

http://www.mosque.org.sg/jamae_chulia/index.php

Pl tell me if it is mosque or Hindu Temple?

''Asalamu alaikum Dear Brothers / sisters

There will be special bayaan for Lailathul Qadar on 8/10/07 Monday night after Tarawih prayer, subsequently Qiyamul Lail prayer will be conducted at 3.15 am,

consequently the monthly bayaan hitherto held on 3rd Sunday of every month will not be held in this month.

The bayaan topic for, Ramadhan 27, 1428 H (8 Oct 2007) is,  

 "Virtues Of Lailathul Qadar."

We welcome you to attend this special bayaan with your family and friends.

At the end of the bayan food will be distributed.

May Almighty Allah (s w t) bless us all with rewards during this holy month. Aameen.

Last Updated ( Monday, 08 October 2007 )''

Oh Now Ravi's arrest case suddenly expose more case.

http://uncleyap-news.blogspot.com/

dd 13 aug 2008

VP of Singapore Law Society,lawyer YAP TEONG LIANG

represents spouse of Ravi's client in a divorce case.

Now,this Ravi's client  claims Mr TL Yap some problem.

I dunt want to be sued.So i dunt repeat the claim here.

u read from Uncle Yap blog.

Does any one now hint or mean Ravi's arrest

arising from  his involvement in this case.

This is a serious statement.

Hey!Singapore is not ruled by KGB!!

M Ravi
Managing Partner
B.A. (NUS), LL.B (Hons) Cardiff, Dip. Sing. Law, ASI Arb
http://www.mravilaw.com/people.html

 

In Truth.We trust.

The 13.08.2008 Uncle Yap post almost confirms there is

some disciplinary problem in this once--strongest opposition

party.

Uncle Yap said it is my blog and i am the decision maker.

CSJ ''call on activist bloggers to refrain from exploiting this matter by posting inaccurate statements about Mr Ravi's situation and stoking sentiment against the authorities, including the police.''

take a good look on Yap's posts--

other postings from news releases.

http://uncleyap-news.blogspot.com/

Wednesday, August 13, 2008

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Who else had Mr M Ravi took on recently

My recent blog post on Mr. M Ravi:

It is up to you all to decide weather this matter is sensitive enough or not.

There are many different opinions and ideas around me always regarding what I should or should not post on the internet or what angle should matters be presented. I will hear these guys out but I will make my own decisions, it is my blogs and my postings after all, I must have my own final say.

''it is my blogs and my postings after all, I must have my own final say.'':Uncle Yap

who is NOT SDP member!!!

''We also call on activist bloggers to refrain from exploiting this matter by posting inaccurate statements about Mr Ravi's situation and stoking sentiment against the authorities, including the police.''---Chee Soon Juan

Oh My mistake and misunderstanding----

Uncle Yap is in fact ,IS NOT member of SDP

I hope my mistake will not lower the standing of both parties involved.

Pl accept my utmost apology for the mistake.

I retract my statement unconditionally and wholly.

Inaccuracy at the beginning /breaking stage when info available was little had already been corrected.

Against the authorities - I don't always share the same stance and position with SDP on this. I have my own strategies & directions. I am not a member of SDP

http://sammyboy.com/showthread.php?p=11048&posted=1#post11048

Re: 2 charges and No Food for Ravi at Mata-Chu

 

I suggest u read Yap postings in Sammy boy to know

more about Ravi lost his passport in Sri Marianman Temple

right before he was going to HK to attend Human Rights meeting.

Another conspiracy?More interesting than reading

John le Carrie!!

 

 

Originally posted by googoomuck:

It's a Hindu temple lah, not a mosque.

my fren,u also correct,but depending on which incident

u are talking about.

Ravi has been charged for disrupting religion procession

and verbally abusing some one inside the mosque on 03 aug 2008.

Pl also read

http://sammyboy.com/showthread.php?p=11048&posted=1#post11048

and uncle Yap blogs for another incident in

Sri Marianman Temple where he lost his passport

in July 2008 after he could not open his locker.

Therefore,he could not go to HK to attend Human Rights meeting.

Police was called and Uncle Yap was there to witness.

 

Ravi was involved in both incidents.

Anyway, as for whether it is politically motivated or not, let's remember Ravi was caught in the act in both instances. How to dispute that? Because of who he is, it suddenly becomespolitically motivated? An offence is an offence, no matter who the person doing it is. It does not suddenly becomes politically motivated when the person committing it is an opposition member. He can be another tom dick or harry and it is still an offence.

Is M Ravi a member of SDP ?

We may respect their political differences but please keep it to the political arena and not disturbing people doing their prayers...

Originally posted by yamizi:

We may respect their political differences but please keep it to the political arena and not disturbing people doing their prayers...

i think no one dared to disturb religion assembly in the past 15

years,not to mention in a workship place.

if u want to creat trouble,just disturb any one in workship,

especially during  7 th Month.

I think if u get hitted ,Judge will not pity u!!

Originally posted by lionnoisy:

i think no one dared to disturb religion assembly in the past 15

years,not to mention in a workship place.

if u want to creat trouble,just disturb any one in workship,

especially during  7 th Month.

I think if u get hitted ,Judge will not pity u!!

Ya, I just do not wish to see (any) religion to be made used in political games la.

Originally posted by t_a_s:

Is M Ravi a member of SDP ?

press never say, so maybe not. but he like their de facto lawyer and 100% supporter.

Originally posted by yamizi:

Ya, I just do not wish to see (any) religion to be made used in political games la.

who play religion in  political game?Me?

or u mean PAP?

I just stated the fact,as i can remember,no one has disturbed

religion procession in the past 15 years here.

Then i say disturbing any workships will lead u to trouble.

Ok?

Originally posted by Acidshuriken:

press never say, so maybe not. but he like their de facto lawyer and 100% supporter.

It is not a issue.

police will not check your background and passport

(your citizenship)then consider what to do.

I think some may think that it is another conspicracy

to fix opposition party.What a pity !!

Actually, the idea of bringing politics into religion is already wrong.

But then, i think that the cause is other than that.

uncleyap-news.blogspot.com/

Why did Ravi discharged Chia Ti Lik as defense lawyer?

And now,Uncle Yap said Ravi dunt have defense lawyer in court

and NOT fair!!

Ravi himself is a qualified lawyer and carrying a valid practicing certifiate.

He represents himself and will do so tomorrow.

DPP said Rave shall be sent to IMH to check up.

Uncle Yap said Ravi is not suitable to defend himself.

But Ravi said he is ok.No need to be sent to IMH for check

up.

 

Ravi will be continued kept in IMH for 2 more weeks

further observation,

after he kept there for past 2 weeks.

Pl dunt compare gavaman with KGB's tactics of keeping

dissidents in mental hospitals.

First,no one in SG is comparable with dissidents in USSR era,yet.

CNA and His fren alreday reports his case.

http://www.singaporeindianvoice.blogspot.com/

In today ST,he claimed he is Top Human Right lawyer in SG.

Ravi said his doctor in Adam Road Hospital( a private

psychiatric medical centre) can certify that he is ok.

Ravi has admitted into the Adam Rd Hosp before.

 

So,pl dunt mix up politics and his health.

 

Why people who criticise PAP regime or oppose PAP regime must go for mental check up?

What about people who praise PAP regime, do they need to go for mental checkup?

Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:

Why people who criticise PAP regime or oppose PAP regime must go for mental check up?

What about people who praise PAP regime, do they need to go for mental checkup?

Hi Poh Ah Pak,when are u free.We go together so we can

have free meals and have long talk in air--cond canteen.

I rather go parliament and hear MPs talk cock.

I not mentally ill, go IMH for fuck?