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  • fishbuff1's Avatar
    144 posts since Jun '08
    • http://newpaper.asia1.com.sg/news/story/0,4136,...?
      Karung guni woman refuses to give students her empty cans

      By Genevieve Jiang
      August 14, 2008

      IT was all over a drink can. And an empty one at that.

      1. Students approach karung guni woman at Jurong hawker centre. They ask her for her cans.

      The debate: Who should have it?

      It began when a group of students went out to look for empty drink cans for a TV challenge.

      Their task was to collect at least 8,500 empty cans so they can be painted and stringed together to form a gigantic Singapore flag.

      The aim was to get into the Singapore Book of Records, by breaking the last record of 8,470 cans set in 2006.

      Groups of students from Fuhua Secondary, Hwa Chong Institution, Innova Primary and Townsville Primary fanned out to look for the cans.

      Their search was filmed in last Tuesday’s episode of The Records Challenge on Channel 8.

      Students from Fuhua were filmed asking a karung guni woman for some empty cans, but she refused.

      Later, the students also had to give up some empty cans they had found to the woman.

      2. Karung guni woman refuses to hand over her cans. She says her livelihood depends on the cans.

      One of the students cried.

      Some viewers said it was wrong of the students to ask the woman for the cans.

      A 31-year-old business development manager, Foo Tze Wei, said: ‘To the students, the cans were to break a record. But for the woman, every can contributes to her three meals.’

      Housewife Lee Yew Huang, 63, agreed, adding that it was insensitive of them to ask the woman for the empty cans.

      She said: ‘They must realise that it’s not easy for old people to make a living this way. It was not justified for the student to cry just because she couldn’t get the cans.’

      But another viewer, a 24-year-old undergraduate Darren Tan, did not think the students did anything wrong.

      He said: ‘The students were just trying to complete their assignment. And it’s not like they snatched the cans from the woman or were rude to her.

      ‘I think it’s commendable that they gave up the cans that they found to her, and even gave her some money.’

      The programme’s host Pornsak also defended the students.

      He told The New Paper that the students had gone to several coffee shops before finding the empty cans.

      3. She asks students to give her cans which they found. Students agree. —Pictures: LIANHE WANBAO

      Pornsak said: ‘It was a weekday afternoon and there were very few customers at the coffee shops and hawker centres. The students were doing this after class, so they could have been tired.

      ‘One of the students had set herself a target of 500 to 600 cans within an hour. She thought it was going to be an easy task at first, but it turned out otherwise.

      ‘She could have wept out of tiredness and disappointment.’

      He added that the students, together with the filming crew, even bought noodles for the woman.

      During filming, students from Fuhua were scouring a Jurong hawker centre for cans when a male student saw the woman, in her 50s, collecting cans.

      He asked her for some of her cans but she refused, saying that she depended on the cans for a living. The students then continued their search within the hawker centre.

      When they finally found some empty cans, the same woman approached them and asked them to let her have them.

      The woman said: ‘Can you let me have the cans, please? Have a kind heart. If I don’t collect enough cans, I won’t have food to eat today.

      ‘You are still young and can continue to hunt for cans. And there are so many of you, whereas I’m alone.’

      When contacted, a spokesman for Fuhua said: ‘The students gave away the six cans they found to the old woman.

      ‘Before the students went out to collect cans, they didn’t know how hard it was for these elderly people. Now, they do.’

      Chinese evening daily Lianhe Wanbao interviewed several karung guni women and they said that collecting cans was a difficult living.

      A 80-year-old woman, who wanted to be known only as Madam Feng, collects cans at the Chong Pang market every afternoon.

      She said she works seven hours a every day, but earns just between $10 and $20 a week.

      Another woman in her 70s, who sources at Sengkang, said she sometimes has to compete with students and other welfare groups who are trying to raise money or collect materials for recycling.

      Madam Feng said: ‘These young people are strong and energetic. How do we compete with them?’

  • pearlie27's Avatar
    868 posts since Nov '04
    • i thought Sg is in golden period? How come our old folks still have to work 7 hrs every day to earn $10 to $20 a week?

      Our undergrad’s priorities is also worrying. He thinks it is more important to complete some silly assignment than to be bothered about others’ livelihood!

  • maurizio13's Avatar
    12,381 posts since Sep '06
    • Originally posted by pearlie27:

      i thought Sg is in golden period? How come our old folks still have to work 7 hrs every day to earn $10 to $20 a week?

      Our undergrad’s priorities is also worrying. He thinks it is more important to complete some silly assignment than to be bothered about others’ livelihood!


      Are you sure those statistics are correct, because according to LKY there are no poor in Singapore. icon_lol.gif

       

  • pearlie27's Avatar
    868 posts since Nov '04
    • Originally posted by maurizio13:


      Are you sure those statistics are correct, because according to LKY there are no poor in Singapore. icon_lol.gif

       


      Don't know leh. Never studied statistics in school because teachers said statistics all bluff.

  • maurizio13's Avatar
    12,381 posts since Sep '06
    • Originally posted by pearlie27:


      Don't know leh. Never studied statistics in school because teachers said statistics all bluff.


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  • pearlie27's Avatar
    868 posts since Nov '04
    • Not say i want to say, but why our student like that one? Can not get cans only cry. Hope our boys and girls here are not like that.

  • maurizio13's Avatar
    12,381 posts since Sep '06
    •  

      Lack of empathy in kids these days.

       

      Folks these days get so engrossed with living their lives in their own little box, they forget about the plight of less than ordinary folks.

       

      Edited by maurizio13 14 Aug `08, 9:42PM
  • redDUST's Avatar
    1,936 posts since Mar '08
    • my in-laws actually bag the cans at home after drinking them and pass them on to the old ladies down their block once a week.

      i thought it was a nice gesture on their part. i just don't know why they drink so many canned drinks.

  • maurizio13's Avatar
    12,381 posts since Sep '06
    • i recycle my plastic bottles but don't think they collect plastic bottles.

       

      but whenever i buy new stuff i will pass the cardboard boxes to the Singaporean elderlies collecting them. the last time i left them outside my house, the stupid PRC man came over took the cardboard box and left all the plastic and foam packing on the floor for me to pick. how selfish and irresponsible. these days i never put cardboard boxes outside.

       

  • Quincey's Avatar
    604 posts since Jun '05
    • Go easy on the kids la, after all they were just being good little girls and boys dutifully completing their assignment. They were just being pragmatic and doing what they were told to do like they always have. Furthermore, they also did give up some of their cans to the Auntie and gave her money also, which shows that when they became aware of the her situation, they also empathize with her and did the right thing. 

  • 798's Avatar
    29,220 posts since Jun '03
  • I-like-flings(m)'s Avatar
    13,891 posts since Feb '04
  • stupidissmart's Avatar
    3,537 posts since Jan '03
    • Are you sure those statistics are correct, because according to LKY there are no poor in Singapore

      I thought the statistic is on vagabond and destitute...

  • MohamedF's Avatar
    4,447 posts since May '06
  • jojobeach's Avatar
    4,324 posts since Apr '07
    • I wonder which sick TV challenge come out with this stupid idea.

       

      What is the purpose of this challenge ?

       

      Don't the producers understand that they are taking away the livelihood of the poor people who collect cans ??

       

      Those TV producers assholes really needs a good old fashion street beatings.

       

       

  • browniebaobao's Avatar
    28,620 posts since Mar '03
    • they could have bought the cans from her..

       

      even if they give her $2, i think she would be happy also lo..

       

      coz i think a few cans can only sell for a few cents only. 

  • youyayu's Avatar
    4,831 posts since Dec '07
  • Evangel's Avatar
    1,192 posts since Sep '05
    • What is the garbrament doing?

      Where are the social workers?

      Are they eligible for social help?

      Pains me to see this but yet glad to see that those kids showed some sympathy to granny.

  • thoreldan's Avatar
    3,914 posts since Jun '03
    • Originally posted by 798:

      huajing (host in yellow) is very chio! icon_redface.gif

      people talk about A...you talk about B

      But...i have to agree with you! teeth.png

  • shade343's Avatar
    13,713 posts since Jun '04
    • The student cried because she felt sad for the old woman. Im so glad our young generation is filled with empathy. We need them to form the next government!

  • Beautiful951's Avatar
    2,424 posts since Jun '08
    • Originally posted by shade343:

      The student cried because she felt sad for the old woman. Im so glad our young generation is filled with empathy. We need them to form the next government!

      Yes that is possible too.

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    12,870 posts since Dec '04
  • freedom4ever's Avatar
    2,456 posts since May '05
    • Originally posted by jojobeach:

      I wonder which sick TV challenge come out with this stupid idea.

       

      What is the purpose of this challenge ?

       

      Don't the producers understand that they are taking away the livelihood of the poor people who collect cans ??

       

      Those TV producers assholes really needs a good old fashion street beatings.

       

       

      i think is purposely one. you know the media is control by the you know who.

  • freedom4ever's Avatar
    2,456 posts since May '05
    • Originally posted by maurizio13:


      Are you sure those statistics are correct, because according to LKY there are no poor in Singapore. icon_lol.gif

       

      if there no poor people then i wonder why they up GST? so who is lying? icon_lol.gif

  • 東方翔's Avatar
    16 posts since Aug '08
    • lol... 1kg of empty can when moulded into flat shape can be sold for $1.70 (average price for garang guni).

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