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Mates.u have to prepare hand guns and even machine guns
is a way of life in Oz....one of your immediate neighbours in Oz
most probably get a gun in her /his drawer.Pl dunt make him angry.....
pl read my 14.10.2008 posting..
Summary
In Victoria of Australia,a state of about 5 million,
the average crime rate for
2006/2007 and 2007/2008 is 7,256/100,000 population.
ie (7327 + 7185)/2.
Compare with Singapore is 720/100,000,average for past 2 years.
That is,crime rate in Vic is 10 times of SG per 100,000 population.
Contents
Many forumers here critize SG but encounter no problems
from MOD.I sometimes face little problems like the thread deleted,
without explanations.The thread(s) are about Oz.
There are many formers here tell me take Oz as models in many aspects,
like military,democracy ,freedom,welfare,cheaper car /houses etc.
But i find seem she is not a good models.
I share things here which forumers dunt expect happen in Oz,
like serious drugs problems,frequent shootings(how many
of u know guns is legalised in Oz?10% populations possess guns.)
I was labelled to deter u guys migrating to Oz!!
Will i enjoy or suffer from your decision of migrations?
In fact,i am sharing with u somethings u should know before
u decide or lift your root in SG.i dunt want u have a culture shock.
Figures,perception and reality
U can say SG understate the crime rate.Figures can be cooked.
MY once say her crime rate is lower than SG.I leave u to decide
whose figures can be trusted.
One's perception to people,country dominate his decisions.
From long long time ago,one starts to form a perception of Oz.
from parents,peers,colleagues,friends,relatives....
But have one verify the info collected?
There is a great difference between taking Oz as a chit chat
topics and u need to decide for migrating there!!
U are the one enjoy or suffer from your decisions.
Besides,do the info provider has conflict of interest?
If u migrate there,there is one more potential buyer for
Oz property!!
At the end ,reality count.Just like some one never fall as
a victim of crimes in SG.But his frens was robbed twice in few years.
U can say fate determine.But this is a number game .
A matter of probability.Why very few wins in casino?
Number game,mates!!
In Victoria,a state of about 5 million,the average crime rate for
2006/2007 and 2007/2008 is 7,256/100,000 population.
ie (7327 + 7185)/2.
Compare with Singapore is 720/100,000,average for past 2 years.
http://www.spf.gov.sg/stats/stats2007_overview.htm
http://www.police.vic.gov.au/content.asp?a=internetBridgingPage&Media_ID=32668
Does it matter to you?U are the decision maker,Not me!!
Do i look blacken the name of Oz?
This is the facts,supported by Oz official figures .
I have told u many times when considering migration,u have to consider:
Costs and benefits and risks in
Economy--YOUR job opportunity,tax etc
Politics---the leaders' ability.Good things dunt come cheap!
Social---Be careful if u have/will have kids.Look out
for drugs,guns ,gangsters problems.
Dunt take for granted that other First World city is similiar
to SG!!This will be the most valuable info i can share.
Do more home works,mates.Dunt rely on others,
including your spouse!!
Migration is the biggest investment,opportunity and risk in your life.
more ref
http://www.abs.gov.au/Ausstats/abs@.nsf/Latestproducts/4510.0Main%20Features22007?opendocument&tabname=Summary&prodno=4510.0&issue=2007&num=&view=
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Latestproducts/4509.1Media%20Release1Apr%202007?opendocument&tabname=Summary&prodno=4509.1&issue=Apr%202007&num=&view=
http://www.police.vic.gov.au/content.asp?Document_ID=829
good news.crime rates in Vic is dropping!!
Edited by lionnoisy 14 Oct `08, 8:37PM
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Singapore's crime rate is low because,
1) It's a small city, commit any crime there is no place to hide. Unless you are Mas Selamat, you can continue to escape the police indefinitely.
2) The punishment meted out by the courts is harsh compared to other developed countries. That's why Singapore has one of the highest amount of prisons and prison inmates in the world.
3) There are cultural and racial differences due to demographics.
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Prison Population per 100,000
Australia: 115
Singapore: 388* (does not include prisoners in drug rehabilitation centres)
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs2/r234.pdf
If lionnoisy prefers a country with low crime, I suggest North Korea, where they have harsher penalties for crime.
Edited by maurizio13 12 Sep `08, 11:13AM
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Originally posted by lionnoisy:
Summary
In Victoria of Australia,a state of about 5 million,
the average crime rate for
2006/2007 and 2007/2008 is 7,256/100,000 population.
ie (7327 + 7185)/2.
Compare with Singapore is 720/100,000,average for past 2 years.
That is,crime rate in Vic is 10 times of SG per 100,000 population.
Contents
Many forumers here critize SG but encounter no problems
from MOD.I sometimes face little problems like the thread deleted,
without explanations.The thread(s) are about Oz.
There are many formers here tell me take Oz as models in many aspects,
like military,democracy ,freedom,welfare,cheaper car /houses etc.
But i find seem she is not a good models.
I share things here which forumers dunt expect happen in Oz,
like serious drugs problems,frequent shootings(how many
of u know guns is legalised in Oz?10% populations possess guns.)
I was labelled to deter u guys migrating to Oz!!
Will i enjoy or suffer from your decision of migrations?
In fact,i am sharing with u somethings u should know before
u decide or lift your root in SG.i dunt want u have a culture shock.
Figures,perception and reality
U can say SG understate the crime rate.Figures can be cooked.
MY once say her crime rate is lower than SG.I leave u to decide
whose figures can be trusted.
One's perception to people,country dominate his decisions.
From long long time ago,one starts to form a perception of Oz.
from parents,peers,colleagues,friends,relatives....
But have one verify the info collected?
There is a great difference between taking Oz as a chit chat
topics and u need to decide for migrating there!!
U are the one enjoy or suffer from your decisions.
Besides,do the info provider has conflict of interest?
If u migrate there,there is one more potential buyer for
Oz property!!
At the end ,reality count.Just like some one never fall as
a victim of crimes in SG.But his frens was robbed twice in few years.
U can say fate determine.But this is a number game .
A matter of probability.Why very few wins in casino?
Number game,mates!!
In Victoria,a state of about 5 million,the average crime rate for
2006/2007 and 2007/2008 is 7,256/100,000 population.
ie (7327 + 7185)/2.
Compare with Singapore is 720/100,000,average for past 2 years.
http://www.spf.gov.sg/stats/stats2007_overview.htm
http://www.police.vic.gov.au/content.asp?a=internetBridgingPage&Media_ID=32668
Does it matter to you?U are the decision maker,Not me!!
Do i look blacken the name of Oz?
This is the facts,supported by Oz official figures .
I have told u many times when considering migration,u have to consider:
Costs and benefits and risks in
Economy--YOUR job opportunity,tax etc
Politics---the leaders' ability.Good things dunt come cheap!
Social---Be careful if u have/will have kids.Look out
for drugs,guns ,gangsters problems.
Dunt take for granted that other First World city is similiar
to SG!!This will be the most valuable info i can share.
Do more home works,mates.Dunt rely on others,
including your spouse!!
Migration is the biggest investment,opportunity and risk in your life.
more ref
http://www.abs.gov.au/Ausstats/abs@.nsf/Latestproducts/4510.0Main%20Features22007?opendocument&tabname=Summary&prodno=4510.0&issue=2007&num=&view=
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Latestproducts/4509.1Media%20Release1Apr%202007?opendocument&tabname=Summary&prodno=4509.1&issue=Apr%202007&num=&view=
you asking for trouble?
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Originally posted by maurizio13:
lionnoisy the Anti-Australian.
If you spend as much time improving on your English as to posting such nonsensical post, Australia might reconsider your application for immigration status.
pl tell me have u known the crime rate in Vic is
10 times of SG before i tell u?
If not,now u know lah.I just REPEAT what the Vic Police and
www.abs.gov.au/ said!! If i am anti--Oz,then how about them?
What i do extra is compare with SG rate.What is wrong?
Does Chee Soon Juan anti-Singapore?He also just put
the bad news in HIS web site www.yoursdb.org.
I may break the prototype of Oz as a good country,from your point
of view.Do u guys advocte freedom of expression?
Why do u scold me when u encounter somethings u dunt
expect,by comparsions with SG,or u dunt want to know?
Shall we angry when SG was pin pointed as the highest rate
in capital punishment in the world?
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Originally posted by eagle:
I wonder why he talks only about Australia... Sian already
Lionnoisy, can do your research on Germany as well? Or Japan?
Those I got more interest to read.Oz is the hot topics here.just share with u some info u need
to know but u dunt have access to them .Your frens and relatives
down under may not tell u,for some reasons.
i dunt know German and Japanese.i cant read their newspaper.
I sian.But there are many want to know.
why dunt u share your home work here.
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Originally posted by SPLIT SECOND:
Better to to be in a country that have high crime than a country run by crime.
a country run by criminals cannot attract so many FT come
here to work,study,get the treatments.
a country run by not-so --effective leaders are flooded
with illegal guns ,drugs and gangsters.
All these happen nothing to do with democracy and freedom.
This is a norm in First World country.
Can u guys share the other side of Oz ?
What are the Upsides of DownUnder?
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Now that you've been cooked in the military section, you go around to this section and spread more blatant lies.
1. Have you considered what crimes were involved? It is likely that the statistics are skewed due to lesser crimes. After all not all of them are murders are they?
2. Maybe SG is shit at catching crooks hence lower crime rate.
3. It is likely SG has a lower crime rate, in fact SG is envied by many countries for its low crime rate. However, it's not envied for its draconian punishments. SG isn't exactly a shining beacon for human rights is it? Apparently you can't even hold protests without govt approval.
Lionnoisy I wonder why the Aust immigration dept rejected your application for a visa?
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Originally posted by SPLIT SECOND:
people are still living and working there, including the elderly and children.
So what do u say these people do? flee the country?
Have i said Oz is a hell that u need take the next flight out?NO.
They are used to it since they were born there.
I have told u Figures,Perception and Reality in opening thread.
People stay in Oz shall know Oz very well,i hope.
My principal audiences are people who think they know
Oz well.
Crimes happen every where.Just the matter of high or low.
In every year,
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
Lionnoisy, we know you hate Australia. YOu have never stop posting any nuisance you have on your mind about Australia. NOt happy, go to their embassy and make noise.
Don't impose your hatred for Australia on the forumers here. You are sick!
I think u underestimate the level of forumers here.
They wont buy my story or info without doing their
home work. will u believe me without verifying my info?
Oh!i just think u close your mind and dunt want to hear
this info.Nvm.
vvvvv
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Originally posted by Asian Aussie:
Now that you've been cooked in the military section, you go around to this section and spread more blatant lies.
1. Have you considered what crimes were involved? It is likely that the statistics are skewed due to lesser crimes. After all not all of them are murders are they?
2. Maybe SG is shit at catching crooks hence lower crime rate.
3. It is likely SG has a lower crime rate, in fact SG is envied by many countries for its low crime rate. However, it's not envied for its draconian punishments. SG isn't exactly a shining beacon for human rights is it? Apparently you can't even hold protests without govt approval.
Lionnoisy I wonder why the Aust immigration dept rejected your application for a visa?
Every house must have a black sheep in the family, I guess lionnoisy is Singapore's black sheep.
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Originally posted by maurizio13:
Singapore's crime rate is low because,
1) It's a small city, commit any crime there is no place to hide. Unless you are Mas Selamat, you can continue to escape the police indefinitely.
2) The punishment meted out by the courts is harsh compared to other developed countries. That's why Singapore has one of the highest amount of prisons and prison inmates in the world.
3) There are cultural and racial differences due to demographics.
PRC Chinese want say SG is small therefore can be developed so far.
Oz population concentrate in few countries each carrying population
of 3 to 6 million.What is the differenence to run SG with each city?
''no place to hide'' as u says is nothing do with crime rate.
2.I read the news in fact SG prison mates absolute no. drops from
20,000 to 13,000!!Therefore Changi Prison Expansion scheme
drops for the moments.Rehabilation works.Repeat offenders
drops .
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Originally posted by lionnoisy:
I think u underestimate the level of forumers here.
They wont buy my story or info without doing their
home work. will u believe me without verifying my info?
Oh!i just think u close your mind and dunt want to hear
this info.Nvm.
vvvvv
i buy your story.keep 'em coming.
i am a fan.
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"The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by observing its criminals'.
There is nowhre in the world with no crime. but rather the degree of the crime shows somethign about the society. That aussie hater is out to mistwist this news of crime rate. the crime rate can be 10x higher, but what crimes being committed?, is not being elaborated. It could be theft of property making up most of them
the degree of severity of 10 thefts commited is not equal to 1 murder, which has a much higher severity.
Imagine this scenario: A peaceful society or neighbourhood can be ruined by just one murder in its vicinity which can cause much more mass hysteria and panic than one isolated incident of theft. At most it will be written off as a one off case where someone has been careless wih their property arising in opportunity for crime.
Edited by SPLIT SECOND 12 Sep `08, 12:38PM
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Originally posted by SPLIT SECOND:
lionnoisy, i wonder how much u getting paid for spreading twisting news?
Your participation is my pays!!
Which part is twisted?EVERY WORD AND FIGURE COME FROM
OFFICAL SOURCES AND WITH LINKS FOR U TO VERIFY.
CAN U find my links ?if u read of their news comprehensively,
i think u know Oz better.
Street crimes in oz more than u think
SG in oz may stay in Good class area or seldom read Oz national news .
How come very few tell us the crimes they heard in Oz?
I dunt pin point extreme case like mass shooting murders
tragic killings in Hoddle Street and Queen Street, Melbourne in 1987, Strathfield in Sydney in 1991 and at Port Arthur in 1996
From my daily reading of Oz news,gangsters seem get a upper
hand.u will say Oz is 5 times bigger than SG in population.
I alreday discount the size of populations.
The frequency of drive--by shooting disturb me.
u can search any police sites of Oz big city.
Then u can find shooting is part of their life.
http://www.police.vic.gov.au/content.asp?Document_ID=15
i am talking about any shooting---
pass--by
robbery
gangster fighting
murders
shooting to police etc
u can find 85 cases by searching ''shot'' from Aug 2005
to date.ie 36 months.I discount 30% as double counting
and other not crimes related,thats is balance 60 cases.
Each month u can expect 1.6 cases of shooting in a city
of 5 million.
Ya.This may be a norm for Western country.
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