Dear All,

I have found that SIngaporeans are fools from various episodes.

Let me elaborate with the following:

1) We allow an absolute party to rule us for 44 years without any opposition to ensure an alternative government

2) We readily agree to take unfavorable measures like CPF cuts, higher cost of payments for HDB, and any increment of fees by our government without question or protest.

3) We fight among ourselves - trying to gain favors from the PAP echelon.

4) We laugh and cheer when oppposition leaders fail.

Now the supporting details:

1) I think other than Japan's LDP and Taiwan's KMT, Singapore is the only state that gives up oppositional power willingly. What makes us so sure after LKY's demise, Singapore is as safe and as uncorrupt? Who will guarantee us that the Lee Family will continue to be honest and will continue to give us the prosperity that was delivered for the last 44 years?

Next, we are a full fledge democracy with full democratic institutions with 1 man 1 vote and we willingly surcum ourselves to unfavourable policies to make us poor and less rich. We willingly surcome under a democratic dictatorship where there is no force or coersion like Taiwan who was under martial law. Why are we so willing to listen to the PAP and refuse to give oppositional forces a chance to develop. Very much we laugh at them and seem to want them to fall from grace.

Do remember they are our hope if PAP ever fails us. They are also working for our national interest. Without them what is the difference between Singapore and Communist China?? Just so much similarities- ONE PARTY STATE and RULE OF MAN. LKY>GCT>LHL- all MAN. So we are fools- all of us whether smart or stupid, including me because I am not there to prevent this. But whether me or any oppositional forces are useless without the support of the people and worse when Singaporeans are naive and foolish. Look at how happy we are to see JBJ, CHIAM SEE TONG, Chee Soon Juan and STeve Chia fall from grace.

2) Whay are we so happy to take pay cuts. Let me define happy. Happy is a state of happiness to the extend of having become contented with the situation or relent with the situation without any action taken to prevent it. That's happy. CPF cuts, increase fees during our worst times, SIA pliots being bullied by the government and LKY, ERP and COE to increase our running cost, artificially inflated property prices to satisfy developers like Far East and CDL. All these to make SIngaporeans POOR so that we have no choice to to squeeze ourselves here. Worst of all PAP always justify their pay increment to keep good man. Good man are good because they are willing not when they are not willing and have to be seduced. When good man refused to expose evil man, that 's when a nation will ultimately fail. We are all so foolish!

3) You won't believe it, so many people are happy that Steve Chia falls. Do we know that for every oppoistional force that fails, it makes Singapore worse off. How are we so sure that PAP is really doing a great job. They are good in cosmestics- upgrades, $ in CPF etc, how are we sure that they are really that good. Who in us audit them? Where are their statements? Where are they financial and performance records? If they are so clean, why are they not publishing the performance of GIC and Temasek holdings? Where are our money and how are they performing? Isn't Singapore Tech, Singtel, SPH, SIA all public companies that belong to Singaporeans? Why are we not getting any dividents from these companies. What have they done to make us better in our livelihood? Are we not fools? We have lost people are who there to help us and make our lives better. PAP had given us a standard life but never a comfortable one! They always make our lives difficult.

4) Singapore is the only country where political awareness is the lowest. Without oppositional forces, tehre is no way we can ever ensure that our interest are secured. We will only have the PAP's views and actions. We lost the chance to explore issues and ensure that our ineterest is secured. How are we so sure that the decisions the PAP make is not Pro-PAP and their members or pro-a certain group of people? So stop cheering and being so happy when our opposition leaders fail and fall, because we all will lose out. Let us see things beyond what is show to us by the PAP and learn to see things in our own way. Lets be open minded and accept diversity. Its only when there is choice that we have the power. For now we are all just FOOLS , all to willing and happy to be fooled.

Relevation.

why are u still in singapore then?

i cannot imagin myself tying such a long essay like tat... i will slp man...

Originally posted by relevation:

Dear All,

I have found that SIngaporeans are fools from various episodes.

Let me elaborate with the following:

1) We allow an absolute party to rule us for 44 years without any opposition to ensure an alternative government

2) We readily agree to take unfavorable measures like CPF cuts, higher cost of payments for HDB, and any increment of fees by our government without question or protest.

3) We fight among ourselves - trying to gain favors from the PAP echelon.

4) We laugh and cheer when oppposition leaders fail.

Now the supporting details:

1) I think other than Japan's LDP and Taiwan's KMT, Singapore is the only state that gives up oppositional power willingly. What makes us so sure after LKY's demise, Singapore is as safe and as uncorrupt? Who will guarantee us that the Lee Family will continue to be honest and will continue to give us the prosperity that was delivered for the last 44 years?

Next, we are a full fledge democracy with full democratic institutions with 1 man 1 vote and we willingly surcum ourselves to unfavourable policies to make us poor and less rich. We willingly surcome under a democratic dictatorship where there is no force or coersion like Taiwan who was under martial law. Why are we so willing to listen to the PAP and refuse to give oppositional forces a chance to develop. Very much we laugh at them and seem to want them to fall from grace.

Do remember they are our hope if PAP ever fails us. They are also working for our national interest. Without them what is the difference between Singapore and Communist China?? Just so much similarities- ONE PARTY STATE and RULE OF MAN. LKY>GCT>LHL- all MAN. So we are fools- all of us whether smart or stupid, including me because I am not there to prevent this. But whether me or any oppositional forces are useless without the support of the people and worse when Singaporeans are naive and foolish. Look at how happy we are to see JBJ, CHIAM SEE TONG, Chee Soon Juan and STeve Chia fall from grace.

2) Whay are we so happy to take pay cuts. Let me define happy. Happy is a state of happiness to the extend of having become contented with the situation or relent with the situation without any action taken to prevent it. That's happy. CPF cuts, increase fees during our worst times, SIA pliots being bullied by the government and LKY, ERP and COE to increase our running cost, artificially inflated property prices to satisfy developers like Far East and CDL. All these to make SIngaporeans POOR so that we have no choice to to squeeze ourselves here. Worst of all PAP always justify their pay increment to keep good man. Good man are good because they are willing not when they are not willing and have to be seduced. When good man refused to expose evil man, that 's when a nation will ultimately fail. We are all so foolish!

3) You won't believe it, so many people are happy that Steve Chia falls. Do we know that for every oppoistional force that fails, it makes Singapore worse off. How are we so sure that PAP is really doing a great job. They are good in cosmestics- upgrades, $ in CPF etc, how are we sure that they are really that good. Who in us audit them? Where are their statements? Where are they financial and performance records? If they are so clean, why are they not publishing the performance of GIC and Temasek holdings? Where are our money and how are they performing? Isn't Singapore Tech, Singtel, SPH, SIA all public companies that belong to Singaporeans? Why are we not getting any dividents from these companies. What have they done to make us better in our livelihood? Are we not fools? We have lost people are who there to help us and make our lives better. PAP had given us a standard life but never a comfortable one! They always make our lives difficult.

4) Singapore is the only country where political awareness is the lowest. Without oppositional forces, tehre is no way we can ever ensure that our interest are secured. We will only have the PAP's views and actions. We lost the chance to explore issues and ensure that our ineterest is secured. How are we so sure that the decisions the PAP make is not Pro-PAP and their members or pro-a certain group of people? So stop cheering and being so happy when our opposition leaders fail and fall, because we all will lose out. Let us see things beyond what is show to us by the PAP and learn to see things in our own way. Lets be open minded and accept diversity. Its only when there is choice that we have the power. For now we are all just FOOLS , all to willing and happy to be fooled.

Relevation.

submit to ST and see what happens.

Originally posted by NeonTetra:

submit to ST and see what happens.

ST is propagandistic paper.........u think they will publish?

Yawn.....and it is year 2004 already !!!

n u tink u r clever creatin dis thread? so smart go form a team n challenge pap la….

yes im sure we are all fools. but wich human being is not?

agree

would you prefer to be a foolish sporean or a foolish filipino or a foolish indonesian or a foolish taiwanese of a foolish vietnamese or any other foolish nationals around the region. Not much of a choice, right?

Huh? There are people who still believe that Singapore is an actual democracy????

Please, since when did Singaporeans ever had a real choice?

Originally posted by relevation:

Dear All,

I have found that SIngaporeans are fools from various episodes.

Let me elaborate with the following:

1) We allow an absolute party to rule us for 44 years without any opposition to ensure an alternative government

Show me a credible opposition, one worthy of my precious 1 vote

4) Singapore is the only country where political awareness is the lowest.
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Judging from the outburst about white horses, I beg to differ. I think we are politically aware, and mature too. That's why we think, understand and act rather than act without understanding

Let me quote why Singaporeans are so foolish from a great political philosopher: John Stuart Mills ( 1859) :

" The worth of the state, in the long run, is the worth of the individuals composing of it. A state which Dwarfs its men (people), in order that they maybe docile instruments in its hands even for beneficial purposes - will find that with small men, no great things can really be accomplished"

Singapore is such a state, and PAP government dwarfs Singaporeans so much so that there are no great men and PAP leaders turn around and says that SIngaporeans are NOT talented and that's why they prefer foreigners!

So who elected the PAP? It is the Singaporeans. So isn't Singaporeans foolish? So much for voting in a government who makes you incapable and add insult after that by saying we are not as good as foreigners. GREAT IRONY!

So Singaporeans be smart and stop being fooled!

Originally posted by Xprobe:

agree

would you prefer to be a foolish sporean or a foolish filipino or a foolish indonesian or a foolish taiwanese of a foolish vietnamese or any other foolish nationals around the region. Not much of a choice, right?

Dear FireIce

I deserve to be in Singapore because I am born and breed in Singapore.

By you asking this question, does that not prove what I have mentioned. People like you always think like the government and find ways and means to dicredit people like me who is fearless to bring out the truth.

Sorry the truth is painful!

Dear FireIce

I deserve to be in Singapore because I am born and breed in Singapore.

By you asking this question, does that not prove what I have mentioned. People like you always think like the government and find ways and means to dicredit people like me who is fearless to bring out the truth.

Sorry the truth is painful!

Dear alwaysdisturbed

You name says it all. Always disturbed. Surely no focus on important and critical issues. Continue being a fool!

Originally posted by relevation:

Dear FireIce

I deserve to be in Singapore because I am born and breed in Singapore.

By you asking this question, does that not prove what I have mentioned. People like you always think like the government and find ways and means to dicredit people like me who is fearless to bring out the truth.

Sorry the truth is painful!

x2

Dear Xprobe

you are wrong. We have a choice. We need strong oppositional forces. Don't judge them- give them a chance to prove themselves. Bring in a strong oppositional group and this will encourage people in this forum who are concern and love SIngapore to stand up and join politics without fear without being intimated and will be sure that they have a strong chance of being elected to parliament and have the support of the people.

There is always choice, do we have the guts to use it. By the way election is near.

Dear Mr Relevation,

You have spend your time and effort in writing the great essay.

There will always be supporters and opposition opinion about your essay.

So, take heart when the critics hit back.

Welcome them with open hand, they have took their time to read what you have written.

In that aspect, you are already a victor.

Keep up the good essay coming !

Dear SingaporeTyrannosaur N Blue Dolphin,

I am glad we have similar feelings. Lets not give up just because of the absolute power that PAP executes and makes us believe what they want us to believe.

If we do not give opposition a chance and always hoping to have the perfect one based on PAP 's standards- we will NEVER get one.

Elect them in and more will join. Without people's encouragement- there is no way people will join. The first step is to elect more opposition into parliament to combat the PAP government. Put them to the test and more talented people like you and me will step out to join these forces and our country will have hope and SIngaporeans will have more comfortable lives.

Why worry when we have the PAP as the government? More opposition will allow them time to develop into better candidates and expose in political experience.

With experience they will slap PAP leaders who says our opposition is weak.

So we have no choice but to trust PAP. But what happens if they fail? We die already ah?

Originally posted by Blue Dolphin:

Judging from the outburst about white horses, I beg to differ. I think we are politically aware, and mature too. That's why we think, understand and act rather than act without understanding

Dear Blue Dolphin,

I disagree. White horse is NOT a political issue. It is an issue that every knows and due to the recent failures in the mililtary leadership (ie the RSS Courageous accident and the deaths of servicemen) that puts the PAP government in the defensive.

If they are so strong, do you think we have a chance? Do you think they will bother to listen to us. Do you know what horse we are riding- DARK horses! and if our political development is not fully developed but rather being so happy with only 1 issue and thinking that we have won. I am sad to say we are in for a dark age and another 40 years of political darkness!

Originally posted by FireIce:

ST is propagandistic paper.........u think they will publish?

Dear Fierelce,

In our age of the internet and this type of forums, there is NO need to submit this type of articles to the Straits Times.

The straits Time will surely be pro- PAP and all media is out of bound to publish.

But the GOOD news is that time has changed, The internet is freedom and our speeches our thoughts are freed.

We have the liberty and power to express ourselves here and have the power to change things if you and I and all in this forum wants to take up this choice to change things.

Dear All,

Do all of you know why Hitler became an absolute tyrant in pre-WWII's 'Germany? And what was the consequence? Do we want Singapore to have such a consequence like prewar Germany, current Iraq, Pre-war Japan, Congo and many other failed Single party and authoritarian regimes that fails badly?

Let me quote again " The only thing Necessary for evil to flourish is for good man to do nothing" (Edmund Burke)

I am sure Singaporeans are mostly good. For those of you who thinks you are good and NOT fools- please do something!

Dear All,

Do all of you know why Hitler became an absolute tyrant in pre-WWII's 'Germany? And what was the consequence? Do we want Singapore to have such a consequence like prewar Germany, current Iraq, Pre-war Japan, Congo and many other failed Single party and authoritarian regimes that fails badly?

Let me quote again " The only thing Necessary for evil to flourish is for good man to do nothing" (Edmund Burke)

I am sure Singaporeans are mostly good. For those of you who thinks you are good and NOT fools- please do something!