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  • Dr Who's Avatar
    1,359 posts since Aug '04
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      Blood on the screen after US planes mistakenly bombed an allied Kurdish convoy....pic captured by embedded BBC team...

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      US Sergeant Ken Kozakiewicz cries as he learns that the body bag, next to him in the medical evacuation helicopter, contains the body of his friend killed by "friendly fire."

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      How can I know if my own side will not bomb me? scary........

  • beavan's Avatar
    3,921 posts since May '04
    • you can only hope. there are many measures in place for us to verify that we will not bomb ourselves. but there’s something called Fog of war.

  • SingaporeTyrannosaur's Avatar
    5,607 posts since Jan '03
    • Has Dr. Who ever been a grunt? Or is he just stating the obvious that fraticide is a sad thing and posting propagada?

      Even in the SAF during training we can get blue on blue incidents even within the controlled environment of the training exercise. It is indeed fortunate that we were not using live rounds at that time. The fog of war is something very real that all grunts have to deal with, and that will end up taking some lives.

      Edited by SingaporeTyrannosaur 27 Jul `07, 3:00PM
  • zagan's Avatar
    35 posts since Apr '07
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    23,141 posts since Jul '04
  • DC+'s Avatar
    1,187 posts since Jun '07
  • CM06's Avatar
    627 posts since Dec '06
    • Originally posted by zagan:
      i thought 3G Army will eliminate fracticide?

      I thought racism got eliminated since the birth of democracy?

      wth are all those new account people...must make rule that to post in milnuts must first intro....haiz....

      anyway, i'm back to trolling here. Just got back from low-key ict. Woo hoo. I'm freeeeeeeeee again.

      Edited by CM06 27 Jul `07, 9:20PM
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    5,848 posts since Apr '03
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    15,921 posts since Oct '05
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    2,298 posts since Jan '06
  • SingaporeTyrannosaur's Avatar
    5,607 posts since Jan '03
    • Originally posted by zagan:
      i thought 3G Army will eliminate fracticide?

      We are not a 3G Army yet, and yes, a lot of the technologies will reduce fracticide....

      But eliminate it? I think not... there's such a thing called make an idiot proof system and they'll just make a better idiot.

  • Aaron8209's Avatar
    4,657 posts since Jun '07
  • Arapahoe's Avatar
    2,002 posts since Jan '07
    • Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:
      Has Dr. Who ever been a grunt? Or is he just stating the obvious that fraticide is a sad thing and posting propagada?

      Even in the SAF during training we can get blue on blue incidents even within the controlled environment of the training exercise. It is indeed fortunate that we were not using live rounds at that time. The fog of war is something very real that all grunts have to deal with, and that will end up taking some lives.

      watch too many movies Laughing

      Edited by Arapahoe 28 Jul `07, 1:36AM
  • norm's Avatar
    1,017 posts since Jan '07
    • is the friendly fire intentional and deliberate or a true mistake? Any prior bad blood between them?

  • mrblitzer21's Avatar
    65 posts since Jun '04
    • Originally posted by Dr Who:
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      Blood on the screen after US planes mistakenly bombed an allied Kurdish convoy....pic captured by embedded BBC team...

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      US Sergeant Ken Kozakiewicz cries as he learns that the body bag, next to him in the medical evacuation helicopter, contains the body of his friend killed by "friendly fire."

      ===================================

      How can I know if my own side will not bomb me? scary........

      what attire is the US sergeant wearing? it looks like the vietnam era BDU? but the helmet is modern...

      Edited by mrblitzer21 28 Jul `07, 5:09PM
  • toXicRabbit's Avatar
    16 posts since Mar '05
    • This is a real war we're talking about. Unless there's technology that makes it smth like what the tanks and other vehicles have, a friendly target identifier using RFID tech on every single grunts, vehicles on the ground and interlink with every other weapons in the army that have an indication that you're pointing that weapon towards a friendly.

      But hey if this method is available to grunts on the ground, the terrorist may take advantage of this system and if they're clever enough, could use this system and get close to US soldiers to kill them under cover of the dark and protection of friendly RFID tagging.

      This kind of thing can't be fool proof i guess.

      Fog of war.. Its a reality.. Even u play call of duty or something like that u anxious will also shoot at friendly.. not to talk about real life when ur life is at stake.. --; Friendly fire happens everywhere during war time. Live with it.

  • Shotgun's Avatar
    5,689 posts since Jul '00
    • RFID kinda too short range and can also be made use of by the enemy. Also likely to be jammed.

      BMS is supposed to reduce blue on blues, but its impossible to eliminate it totally.

      From the perspective of close air support, unless there are some sort of smoke grenade marking friendly positions, it is hard to identify friendly troops and sometimes vehicles from the air. Use smoke however, may obscure the targeting sensors of certain munitions.

  • saberlancer's Avatar
    19 posts since Jul '06
    • Originally posted by mrblitzer21:
      what attire is the US sergeant wearing? it looks like the vietnam era BDU? but the helmet is modern...[/b]

      Iraq/Kuwait war, 1991

  • tankfanatic's Avatar
    1,035 posts since Mar '07
  • alwaysdisturbed's Avatar
    5,848 posts since Apr '03
    • Originally posted by sand king:
      oh man... happen before in Iraq, A10s friendly fire at a convoy Neutral

      oh yea, watched it on shootout on history channel recently.

  • popikachu's Avatar
    13,108 posts since Dec '06
  • Shotgun's Avatar
    5,689 posts since Jul '00
    • Originally posted by popikachu:
      You can on/off friendly fire in CS. >.<

      Tell ur PC to switch it off when u do live fire, section fire movements. Laughing

  • Gun's Avatar
    657 posts since Nov '02
    • Pat Tillman (1976 ~ 2004)

      Died in Afghanistan. His unit burned his body armor and uniform in an apparent attempt to hide the fact that he was killed by friendly fire.

      What made this different is he, along with his brother Kevin , quit his million $$$ football profession and sign on to US Ranger after 9-11.

      RIP.


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      Edited by Gun 02 Aug `07, 5:25PM
  • Gun's Avatar
    657 posts since Nov '02
  • SingaporeTyrannosaur's Avatar
    5,607 posts since Jan '03
    • My friend got gunned down by his OC during ATEC, and doing FOFO in my case one of the instructors shot his a friendly while moving around a corner after a mix up, right in front of the trainees as well.

      If you have been involved in a firefight, or trained to be in one, you know just how confusing it can get.

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