my friends without going into any insults or namecalling,
list the top 15 armed forces from asia where asia includes
it includes far east, asean, saarc, west asia, central asia.

mine is roughly

1. russia
2. china
3. india
4. pakistan
5. turkey
6. iran
7. israel
8. japan
9. north korea
10. south korea
11. taiwan
12. indonesia
13. malaysia
14. thailand
15. singapore (just sneaked in, since this is singapore forum) otherwise some other nation.

without further insult...malaysia should be drop from the list and be replaced by vietnam.

vietnam's 440,000 troops and thoudsands of tanks is far superior to malaysia's 100,000 and less then a hundred tanks.

as for singapore... dont worry lah... we singaporeans knows we are well ahead of malaysia... there is no need for me to brag infront of my own people.

i would like to suggest to add on Australia, new zealand, and as mention vietnam.

Also downgrade Turkey, Japan. Pakistan, Iran.
upgrade Isarel, South Korea,

Originally posted by protonhybrid:

my friends without going into any insults or namecalling,
list the top 15 armed forces from asia where asia includes
it includes far east, asean, saarc, west asia, central asia.

mine is roughly

1. russia
2. china
3. india
4. pakistan
5. turkey
6. iran
7. israel
8. japan
9. north korea
10. south korea
11. taiwan
12. indonesia
13. malaysia
14. thailand
15. singapore (just sneaked in, since this is singapore forum) otherwise some other nation.

excuse me... but what is "saarc"??

I don't think we can consider Turkey and Iseral as "Asia". I think maybe Iran can be sneaked in...

If we consider Iran as a "Asian" country. You must include the ex-USSR republics with all the -stans....

And we have to put S. Korea on top of N. Korea

and thailand must be above Indonesia and Malaysia.

Originally posted by protonhybrid:

my friends without going into any insults or namecalling,
list the top 15 armed forces from asia where asia includes
it includes far east, asean, saarc, west asia, central asia.

MY friend... who are you?

Seriously this list is both stupid and will bring about dicksize comparisons. The list is useless as absolute numbers and lack of specific senarios (top 15 armed forces that eat snake) totally throws such a "neutral" topic out of the window.

Anyone who put singapore at the 15th of the list is obviously here to stir up trouble.

Originally posted by CM06:


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The list is useless as absolute numbers and lack of [b]specific senarios (top 15 armed forces that eat snake) totally throws such a "neutral" topic out of the window.
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i have to agree on this part. each force is mighty in its own way. the doctrines are different also.

Agree with CM06 about TS's intention.His comment on the last part is obviously inflammatory, designed to start those meaningless X country VS Y country comparison , which we all know would degenerate into a flame fest and name callings in no time.

http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=178814
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=178706
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=179906

A quick check confirms CM06's suspicion.Obviously, TS is trying to start a flame war(again)

What you should put Singapore and Malaysia before Indonesia.

Our(Indonesian) armed forces are so very ill equipped that the only war they can win is either against pirates or its very own citizens.

Today's high-tech military equipments do much wonder and are far more effective than just plain numbers.

The days of numbers are way over.

what's up with the 5 minutes waiting after editing? lame

Since when did Russia and Israel become part of Asia?

Originally posted by sgf:

Since when did Russia and Israel become part of Asia?

Israel yes, Russia no.

Originally posted by SBS3625D:

Israel yes, Russia no.

Israel is part of asia? then why their football team is competing in europe and not asia?

Originally posted by silvernitrate:

Israel is part of asia? then why their football team is competing in europe and not asia?

Ok, I not sure.

But 50-50 Israel is Asia. Geographical position yes.

But if you're gonna bring in politics then I'm not sure if they consider themselves Asians.

Can someone enlighten me?

i dunno about the rest of the list, but i would put Israel at no. 1

Well, there's politically Asian and geographically Asian.

If we're looking at a geographical pov, here's my top ten.

1. Israel
2. Australia
3. Turkey
4. Japan
5. South Korea
6. China
7. India
8. North Korea
9. Singapore
10. Thailand

But it's all a useless pissing contest eventually. There are many different factors to look at.

Israel should be WAAAAY higher up. Like number 1 or 2 and I don’t think Singapore should even be on the list ahhaha

Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:

What you should put Singapore and Malaysia before Indonesia.

Our(Indonesian) armed forces are so very ill equipped that the only war they can win is either against pirates or its very own citizens.

Today's high-tech military equipments do much wonder and are far more effective than just plain numbers.

The days of numbers are way over.

what's up with the 5 minutes waiting after editing? lame

But then again what good is technology without the numbers?

Originally posted by jondizzle foshizzle:

But then again what good is technology without the numbers?

What good are numbers without technology? It is a fine balance and technology has already seen to it that numbers (in terms of personnel) count for very little. That's what technology advances are for. Or are you one of those that believe a thousand bullets can defeat an MBT?

Originally posted by silvernitrate:

Israel is part of asia? then why their football team is competing in europe and not asia?

Israell is part of Asia just that they dont want to play football in Asia

Originally posted by LazerLordz:

Well, there's politically Asian and geographically Asian.

If we're looking at a geographical pov, here's my top ten.

1. Israel
2. Australia
3. Turkey
4. Japan
5. South Korea
6. China
7. India
8. North Korea
9. Singapore
10. Thailand

But it's all a useless pissing contest eventually. There are many different factors to look at.

i think it might be better off grouping by category rather than ranking by number.

ranking by wat?

how to compare? smlj; russia and china compared to singapore and malaysia. ccb are you a farktard.

let's not get distracted. let's stick to the original topic.

can somebody list the respective weapons stocks for each country that you think are in top 15?
look obviously you can disagree but can you not just post YOUR top 15 or so and argue why they're there.

Weapon stocks isn't everything. A coutry can have a million crossbows and it still would get its ass kicked by a country with a strategic bomber.

Defining the quality of a country's armed forces is an exercise in futility at best as first of all, you will never get or be allowed to reveal the full capabilities and secondly because of that you'll just get into a pissing contest and everybody is going to have his or her own opinion about things

But I'm just curious by what logic or yardstick did you rank your list?

Originally posted by jondizzle foshizzle:

But then again what good is technology without the numbers?

The more appropriate question is: What good is technology without excellent training?

Don't you read what happened in Israel's 67 and Yom Kippur War? Also as far as I know in the first gulf war Iraqis had more tanks on the field than the Allied. Like more than twice over. Air strikes only prioritized on strategic targets before switching to tactical ones like Iraqis tanks because they ran out of strategic targets. Still the number of operational Iraqis tanks were still believed to be greater than the combined allied tanks.

Originally posted by sgf:

Since when did Russia and Israel become part of Asia?

We all know that Israel geographically is indeed part of Asia.

Russia's territory spans from eastern Europe in western borders to Asia in her eastern border.

Don't you know the disputed Sakhalin island between Japan and Russia today or even the Naval battle between then imperial Japanese Navy and Russian Empire back before WWI starts, that is at the beginning of last century(19th). Then the Russian empire's Asiatic fleet was tactically defeated in the beginning of the war and the Russian's European fleet made a voyage round the world to her Asia territory to fight off the Japanese. The Japanese naval fleet defeated them. The first occurrence that an Asian Nation able to defeat what was considered a major European power.

So actually we can consider Russia to be geographically located partially in Asia.

PS: How do you make multi quote here anyway?