Warships in the Straits of Singapore (2) replied by foxtrout8 @ Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:27:40 +0800

foxtrout8 — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:27:40 +0800

Originally posted by 16/f/lonely:

I see I see.

So what I've been seeing.....is a zhap bah lang any-oh-how.

it is a common confusion realli

Warships in the Straits of Singapore (2) replied by 16/f/lonely @ Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:19:16 +0800

16/f/lonely — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:19:16 +0800

I see I see.

So what I've been seeing.....is a zhap bah lang any-oh-how.

Warships in the Straits of Singapore (2) replied by foxtrout8 @ Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:51:57 +0800

foxtrout8 — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:51:57 +0800

Originally posted by 16/f/lonely:

"Not under command" indicates catastrophic failure.

Failure of certain crucial steering/propulsion equipment that does not warrant the use of that will call for "ball diamond ball".

Ball diamond ball, Vessel restricted in her ability to manoeuvre means a vessel which from the nature of her work is restricted in her ability to manoeuvre as required by the rule ...include but not limited to

1) Vessel engaged in laying servicing, or picking up a navigational mark, submarine cable or pipeline.

2) Vessel engaged in dredging, surveying or underwater operation

3) Vessel engaged in replenishment or tranferring persons, provision, or cargo while underway.

4) Vessel engafed in lanching or recovery of aircraft

5) Vessel engaged in mine clearance operation

6)Vessel engaged in a towing operation such as serverely restricts the towing vessel and her tow in their ability to deviate from their course.

In the case of failure of steering or propulsion, vessels will require the signal of Not Under Command

Vessel not under command which means a vessel which through some exceptional circumstances is unable to manoeurve as required by the rules and is therefore unable to keep out of the way of another vessel. 2 black ball and 2 all round red light.

More specifically you should also put up the signal of

Foxtrot flag for 'I am disabled. Communicate with me'.

Delta flag for 'Keep clear of me, i am manoeuvring with difficulty'.

or for engine failure.

Romeo November flags for 'My engine is out of order'.

Warships in the Straits of Singapore (2) replied by 16/f/lonely @ Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:13:58 +0800

16/f/lonely — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:13:58 +0800

Originally posted by foxtrout8:

In the form of failure (under the definition of 'other exceptional circumstances in the rule), they will display the signal for Not Under Command. 2 black ball place vertically in the day and 2 all round red light at night.

Vessel restricted In her ability to manoeuvre signal is for vessel in which nature of work hinders her ability to manoeuvre as required by the rules.

"Not under command" indicates catastrophic failure.

Failure of certain crucial steering/propulsion equipment that does not warrant the use of that will call for "ball diamond ball".

Warships in the Straits of Singapore (2) replied by foxtrout8 @ Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:39:58 +0800

foxtrout8 — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:39:58 +0800

Originally posted by 16/f/lonely:

Can also be referring to some form of failure that restricts manoverability.

In the form of failure (under the definition of 'other exceptional circumstances in the rule), they will display the signal for Not Under Command. 2 black ball place vertically in the day and 2 all round red light at night.

Vessel restricted In her ability to manoeuvre signal is for vessel in which nature of work hinders her ability to manoeuvre as required by the rules.

Warships in the Straits of Singapore (2) replied by 16/f/lonely @ Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:48:33 +0800

16/f/lonely — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:48:33 +0800

Originally posted by Obersturmfuhrer:

The USNS Walter S. Diehl (T-AO193) makes another pass by today

while the USS Patriot (MCM 7) was spotted conducting some underwater operations (indicated by the navigational sign of a ball, diamond, ball hung on her mast) at Raffles Reserve.

Can also be referring to some form of failure that restricts manoverability.

Warships in the Straits of Singapore (2) replied by Obersturmfuhrer @ Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:33:20 +0800

Obersturmfuhrer — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:33:20 +0800

French Naval Durance class Supply Ship Ari (A608)

Warships in the Straits of Singapore (2) replied by Obersturmfuhrer @ Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:09:16 +0800

Obersturmfuhrer — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:09:16 +0800

The USNS Walter S. Diehl (T-AO193) makes another pass by today

while the USS Patriot (MCM 7) was spotted conducting some underwater operations (indicated by the navigational sign of a ball, diamond, ball hung on her mast) at Raffles Reserve.

Warships in the Straits of Singapore (2) replied by 16/f/lonely @ Mon, 02 Jun 2008 21:52:22 +0800

16/f/lonely — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 21:52:22 +0800

Originally posted by foxtrout8:

From DDG89 USS Mustin onwards, the arleigh bruke class will feature the submerge funnels to improve their signature.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Mustin_%28DDG-89%29

Thanks for the info!

This is the first time I've seen such an Arleigh Burke.

Warships in the Straits of Singapore (2) replied by foxtrout8 @ Mon, 02 Jun 2008 21:48:46 +0800

foxtrout8 — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 21:48:46 +0800

Originally posted by 16/f/lonely:

And upon a closer look, USS Halsey's smoke funnels appear to be buried inside the superstructure unlike the other Arleigh Burkes.

From DDG89 USS Mustin onwards, the arleigh bruke class will feature the submerge funnels to improve their signature.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Mustin_%28DDG-89%29

Warships in the Straits of Singapore (2) replied by 16/f/lonely @ Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:41:20 +0800

16/f/lonely — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:41:20 +0800

And upon a closer look, USS Halsey's smoke funnels appear to be buried inside the superstructure unlike the other Arleigh Burkes.

Warships in the Straits of Singapore (2) replied by 16/f/lonely @ Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:35:51 +0800

16/f/lonely — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:35:51 +0800

This group came with USS Peleliu (LHA-5).

Warships in the Straits of Singapore (2) replied by Obersturmfuhrer @ Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:33:05 +0800

Obersturmfuhrer — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:33:05 +0800

Arleigh Burke-class AEGIS Destroyers

USS Benfold (DDG 65)

USS Halsey (DDG 97)

and the Ticonderoga-class Cruiser USS Cape St George (CG 71)

Warships in the Straits of Singapore (2) replied by Obersturmfuhrer @ Sat, 31 May 2008 08:29:39 +0800

Obersturmfuhrer — Sat, 31 May 2008 08:29:39 +0800

Apologies for the grainy pict but this is the best I can squeeze out of my handphone camera.

The USNS Walter S. Diehl (T-AO193) yesterday.

Warships in the Straits of Singapore (2) replied by foxtrout8 @ Fri, 30 May 2008 00:23:17 +0800

foxtrout8 — Fri, 30 May 2008 00:23:17 +0800

Originally posted by Atobe:

Before the opening of the deep water docking facilities at Changi Naval Base - most foreign naval vessels on friendly visits to Singapore will be anchored at the Eastern Anchorage that is an area off the East Coast Parkway area.

With the Singapore shorelines being extended through land reclamation, the surface water area between the shore lines and the international sea boundary has reduced remarkably, and has resulted in this surface area being packed with commercial ships anchored off-shore to wait in turn for berthing space at the PSA.

This has resulted in naval vessels sailing further south from the Singapore territorial waters - so as to avoid the commercial traffic in the tight waters that make up the Singapore harbor - causing a seeming drop in the passage of naval ship traffic through Singapore waters, and resulting in disappointments to avid ''naval ship'' watchers.

The warships werent anchored at the eastern anchorage in the past. They were anchored at the man-of-war anchorage which was located north of the eastern anchorage off the coast of marina east (tanjong rhu). Currently Man of war anchorage had moved so they are no more there.

Naval vessels are making way far south of Singapore not because of the extending shoreline of Singapore but because they are using the traffic separation scheme for transit. The route via singapore from the malacca strait to the SCC vice versa is from the Malacca strait's TSS to the SCC's TSS vice versa so no point turning into our port waters for transit be it is congested or not.

Warships in the Straits of Singapore (2) replied by arball @ Thu, 29 May 2008 23:37:54 +0800

arball — Thu, 29 May 2008 23:37:54 +0800

quite a distance for the RN to appear in eh?

a visit to usn pacfleet for excercise perhaps? and subsequently proceeding to the gulf for duties? (quite hiong still)

the canadian MARCOM ship is based on which coast i wonder...? maybe also on its way to the gulf too?

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or as we hope.? conspiracy !

Warships in the Straits of Singapore (2) replied by Obersturmfuhrer @ Thu, 29 May 2008 20:47:50 +0800

Obersturmfuhrer — Thu, 29 May 2008 20:47:50 +0800

The Canadian Forces Maritime Command's Halifax class Frigate, the HMCS Fredericton (FFH 337)

followed shortly by a Trafalgar class SSN, dun ask me why the RN is shadowing the Canadian MARCOM vessel :p

Warships in the Straits of Singapore (2) replied by 16/f/lonely @ Tue, 06 May 2008 20:54:47 +0800

16/f/lonely — Tue, 06 May 2008 20:54:47 +0800

The USS Blue Ridge's in town!!

Warships in the Straits of Singapore (2) replied by Obersturmfuhrer @ Mon, 05 May 2008 20:16:49 +0800

Obersturmfuhrer — Mon, 05 May 2008 20:16:49 +0800

Chill guys, just using some humour here.

Yeah, same ole digicam using just the zoom option.

Warships in the Straits of Singapore (2) replied by arball @ Mon, 05 May 2008 16:10:46 +0800

arball — Mon, 05 May 2008 16:10:46 +0800

obersturmfuhrer, you take thos pics just with the camera alone right? no magnification device included?

Warships in the Straits of Singapore (2) replied by 16/f/lonely @ Mon, 05 May 2008 15:41:47 +0800

16/f/lonely — Mon, 05 May 2008 15:41:47 +0800

Originally posted by Obersturmfuhrer:

Look, I still have a life. And it doesn't entail staring through a pair of binoculars 24-7. This is not even my job.

Same old camera, just a very nice bright sunny day.

I never blamed you.....it's just......too bad for all of us here.

BTW, I do like your pics.

Warships in the Straits of Singapore (2) replied by Obersturmfuhrer @ Sat, 03 May 2008 23:43:45 +0800

Obersturmfuhrer — Sat, 03 May 2008 23:43:45 +0800

Originally posted by 16/f/lonely:

You missed the Abraham Lincoln battle-group.

And the Jap Murasame-class and one underway replenishment vessel.

So sad.....no pics.

Look, I still have a life. And it doesn't entail staring through a pair of binoculars 24-7. This is not even my job.

Originally posted by Bionic Animals:

You have a new camera? The pictures posted are pretty sharp and clear.

Same old camera, just a very nice bright sunny day.

Warships in the Straits of Singapore (2) replied by 16/f/lonely @ Sat, 03 May 2008 21:24:30 +0800

16/f/lonely — Sat, 03 May 2008 21:24:30 +0800

Originally posted by Atobe:

Before the opening of the deep water docking facilities at Changi Naval Base - most foreign naval vessels on friendly visits to Singapore will be anchored at the Eastern Anchorage that is an area off the East Coast Parkway area.

Up until the late 1990s, when driving along the highest level of the Benjamin Sheares Bridge, one could see the big flat tops - and its accompanying escort vessels - from the US Navy anchored off the East Coast Parkway.

Nowadays, all naval vessels from other countries that are allowed to enter Singapore ports will sail directly to Changi.

With the Singapore shorelines being extended through land reclamation, the surface water area between the shore lines and the international sea boundary has reduced remarkably, and has resulted in this surface area being packed with commercial ships anchored off-shore to wait in turn for berthing space at the PSA.

This has resulted in naval vessels sailing further south from the Singapore territorial waters - so as to avoid the commercial traffic in the tight waters that make up the Singapore harbor - causing a seeming drop in the passage of naval ship traffic through Singapore waters, and resulting in disappointments to avid ''naval ship'' watchers.

Has anyone seen any Singaporean submarines within the waters of Singapore, or making surface passage as it sail into the international waters in the South China Sea for training ?

Not entirely true.....from reading a blog by a USN destroyer, I learnt that the ship actually went down the shipping lines to give the junior officers a feel of one of the world's busiest waterway.

Warships in the Straits of Singapore (2) replied by Bionic Animals @ Sat, 03 May 2008 21:10:20 +0800

Bionic Animals — Sat, 03 May 2008 21:10:20 +0800

You have a new camera? The pictures posted are pretty sharp and clear.

Warships in the Straits of Singapore (2) replied by 16/f/lonely @ Sat, 03 May 2008 12:58:56 +0800

16/f/lonely — Sat, 03 May 2008 12:58:56 +0800

Originally posted by Obersturmfuhrer:

Just to assure you the eyes on the sea is still working. Just that there's nothing interesting since the last post for the other thread.

You missed the Abraham Lincoln battle-group.

And the Jap Murasame-class and one underway replenishment vessel.

So sad.....no pics.

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