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  • cavsg's Avatar
    779 posts since Oct '02
    • Got this from the NOTAMS

      CONSTRUCTION OF NEW CHANGI EAST RUNWAY 01/19 LOCATED 1,800M EAST OF RUNWAY 02R/20L COMPLETED. OPERATIONAL TRIALS WILL BE CONDUCTED ON RUNWAY 01/19 BETWEEN 2330/0100 ON 5/6 TO 7/8, 9/10, 11/12 TO 13/14 APRIL. THE USE OF RUNWAY 01/19 IS SOLELY FOR THE REPUBLIC OF SINGAPORE AIRFORCE. 04 APR 09:32 UNTIL 14 APR 23:59

  • sgboy2004's Avatar
    43,907 posts since Dec '02
  • Viper52's Avatar
    1,801 posts since Oct '01
    • Originally posted by cavsg:
      Got this from the NOTAMS

      CONSTRUCTION OF NEW CHANGI EAST RUNWAY 01/19 LOCATED 1,800M EAST OF RUNWAY 02R/20L COMPLETED. OPERATIONAL TRIALS WILL BE CONDUCTED ON RUNWAY 01/19 BETWEEN 2330/0100 ON 5/6 TO 7/8, 9/10, 11/12 TO 13/14 APRIL. THE USE OF RUNWAY 01/19 IS SOLELY FOR THE REPUBLIC OF SINGAPORE AIRFORCE. 04 APR 09:32 UNTIL 14 APR 23:59

      Interesting, never realised the runway was not parallel to that of the civilian airport till now.

      Just to confirm, the times on the NOTAM are Zulu right?

  • RussianPower's Avatar
    109 posts since Jan '03
    • Is one of our existing airbases going to close down and move over there?

      Originally posted by cavsg:
      Got this from the NOTAMS

      CONSTRUCTION OF NEW CHANGI EAST RUNWAY 01/19 LOCATED 1,800M EAST OF RUNWAY 02R/20L COMPLETED. OPERATIONAL TRIALS WILL BE CONDUCTED ON RUNWAY 01/19 BETWEEN 2330/0100 ON 5/6 TO 7/8, 9/10, 11/12 TO 13/14 APRIL. THE USE OF RUNWAY 01/19 IS SOLELY FOR THE REPUBLIC OF SINGAPORE AIRFORCE. 04 APR 09:32 UNTIL 14 APR 23:59
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    49,835 posts since Dec '03
    • Originally posted by sgboy2004:
      why can't we construct platforms like those on aircraft carriers...small footprint compared to a full-size airport....

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  • cavsg's Avatar
    779 posts since Oct '02
    • Originally posted by Viper52:
      Interesting, never realised the runway was not parallel to that of the civilian airport till now.

      Just to confirm, the times on the NOTAM are Zulu right?

      yes UTC, everything written for flight ops are UTC, met report, flight plan etc..

  • Viper52's Avatar
    1,801 posts since Oct '01
    • Originally posted by cavsg:
      yes UTC, everything written for flight ops are UTC, met report, flight plan etc..

      I thought so...so the operational trials are to be conducted at 0730 to 0900 local? Someone's gonna be getting up real early...

  • cavsg's Avatar
    779 posts since Oct '02
    • 1 reason due to the difference is for commercial flights to differentiate between 02R and 01, the markings on the runway is different. on a bad day with low visability, a pilot may force his way in and land after decision height on ILS, the runway markings are for him to realise that he is on the wrong runway, another simple reason, u cannot call the new r/w, 02r of r rite...
      heard the atc at changi kao peh kao bu, alot of procedures for 02r had to change, no more go around right on 02r, must go left. they put up alot of resistance for the new r/w but lost.

  • cavsg's Avatar
    779 posts since Oct '02
    • suppose to be a super low profile thing but they had to publish on NOTAMS in case someone tries to land on it. heard that the AIP is updated with the new r/w, will go dig it up to see what the new r/w spec is.

  • Viper52's Avatar
    1,801 posts since Oct '01
    • Originally posted by cavsg:
      1 reason due to the difference is for commercial flights to differentiate between 02R and 01, the markings on the runway is different. on a bad day with low visability, a pilot may force his way in and land after decision height on ILS, the runway markings are for him to realise that he is on the wrong runway, another simple reason, u cannot call the new r/w, 02r of r rite...
      heard the atc at changi kao peh kao bu, alot of procedures for 02r had to change, no more go around right on 02r, must go left. they put up alot of resistance for the new r/w but lost.

      Yup, that makes sense. Saw someone on Ninervictor forum speculating if 02R would be renamed 02Centre after the new runway came into use (still not known then the new runway heading).

      Can understand why the ATC aren't too pleased about the new runway, the whole thing would complicate a lot of the procedures as well as making life more difficult for everyone involved

      Ah well, when you try to bang heads against national security, theres only going to be one winner

  • cavsg's Avatar
    779 posts since Oct '02
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    779 posts since Oct '02
  • Viper52's Avatar
    1,801 posts since Oct '01
    • Originally posted by cavsg:
      new ICAO designation WSAC! apron seems to be very small. equip with ILS

      Main apron small, but the layout graphic is very heavily censored! Laughing

  • cavsg's Avatar
    779 posts since Oct '02
  • Viper52's Avatar
    1,801 posts since Oct '01
    • Originally posted by cavsg:
      what exactly do you want to see?

      Nothing. Nothing at all Wink

  • 01024G's Avatar
    565 posts since Apr '04
    • Originally posted by RussianPower:
      Is one of our existing airbases going to close down and move over there?

      Changi Air Base already exist there. Forgotten what they going to do with it.

  • kanzer's Avatar
    178 posts since Nov '02
    • two months back while i was in T1 waiting to board a flight to Shanghai, i saw 5 or 6 F-16s took off from changi airport runway….suspect they might be foreign a/c

  • Dangerboy_19792003's Avatar
    9 posts since Dec '03
    • Originally posted by kanzer:
      two months back while i was in T1 waiting to board a flight to Shanghai, i saw 5 or 6 F-16s took off from changi airport runway....suspect they might be foreign a/c

      Couldn't be foreign fighters. Foreign fighters/choppers/transport etc are only allowed to land at PLAB and nowhere else (unless it's the aerospace). Has to be our 140 or 143 sqn doing touch and go practice. They always do this at PLAB and CAB before returning to TAB.

  • gary1910's Avatar
    1,273 posts since Jun '03
    • Originally posted by Dangerboy_19792003:
      Couldn't be foreign fighters. Foreign fighters/choppers/transport etc are only allowed to land at PLAB and nowhere else (unless it's the aerospace). Has to be our 140 or 143 sqn doing touch and go practice. They always do this at PLAB and CAB before returning to TAB.

      I saw two US's C-130 a/c some where in Changi as the commercial flight that I were on was approaching Changi airport last year.

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      Edited by gary1910 16 Apr `04, 12:53AM
  • Dangerboy_19792003's Avatar
    9 posts since Dec '03
    • Originally posted by gary1910:
      I saw two US's C-130 a/c some where in Changi as the commercial flight that I were on was approaching Changi airport last year.

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      They prolly allow them now. When I was serving in the RSAF, all foreign airforce planes are only allowed to land at PLAB, as it was deemed the least secretive of our 3 main airbases (not including CAB). In fact, the USAF detachment, 497 Commando Sling is based in PLAB, and PLAB frequently hosts the US f/18s, f/15s and other transport airplanes.

  • Groovee's Avatar
    351 posts since Jun '03
    • Originally posted by gary1910:
      I saw two US's C-130 a/c some where in Changi as the commercial flight that I were on was approaching Changi airport last year.

      image

      the gunship or the hercules?? Twisted Evil

  • gary1910's Avatar
    1,273 posts since Jun '03
    • Originally posted by Groovee:
      the gunship or the hercules?? Twisted Evil

      Sorri, can't tell from the air leh!

  • Viper52's Avatar
    1,801 posts since Oct '01
    • Theres a partial and hazy photo of the new WSAC on May's issue of Air Forces Monthly, if anyone is interested.

      Photographer's identity withheld, naturally.

  • Jazzswing's Avatar
    220 posts since Feb '04
    • Where to suscribe magazines such as AFM and Jane's? I've always wondered. Can't buy from bookstores all the time, and not all selling that too. Question

  • Viper52's Avatar
    1,801 posts since Oct '01
    • Originally posted by Jazzswing:
      Where to suscribe magazines such as AFM and Jane's? I've always wondered. Can't buy from bookstores all the time, and not all selling that too. Question

      They would almost always have subscription forms on the insides of the magazines, failing that, can try at their sites online or wait for the next AA. Shocked

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