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  • Aim@Me's Avatar
    153 posts since Apr '04
    • well heard from instructor friends in bmtc that generally they felt that poly batch of recruits r better than jc batch of recruits…any comments??

  • wuming78's Avatar
    17,147 posts since May '03
    • Originally posted by Aim@Me:
      well heard from instructor friends in bmtc that generally they felt that poly batch of recruits r better than jc batch of recruits...any comments??

      better in wat sense?

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    ditzy's Avatar
    49,650 posts since Dec '03
    • Originally posted by wuming78:
      better in wat sense?

      Well, apparently from my experience having JC batch under my 'tender loving care' tend to question authority more. Like "why must I do this? why must I do that?" Cool

  • Bill GoldBerg's Avatar
    475 posts since Apr '04
    • poly grads can go to marine, air force as technician. don't need to sign bonds some more. 8 to 5. sat half day.

      What do you say?

      What's next? Mad

  • Bill GoldBerg's Avatar
    475 posts since Apr '04
  • wuming78's Avatar
    17,147 posts since May '03
    • Originally posted by ditzy:
      Well, apparently from my experience having JC batch under my 'tender loving care' tend to question authority more. Like "why must I do this? why must I do that?" Cool

      theres nothing wrong wif tt rite? in fact i would encourage all instructors to be clear with the trainees, regardless of their background and profile, on the rationale behind trg as much as possible. these daes, trainees r more discerning and learned, and they haf more channels to seek redress. so its better to get things out in the open.

  • Aim@Me's Avatar
    153 posts since Apr '04
    • well..they say poly recruits have more initiative and less complains whereas jc recruits tend to “wayang” alot n lots of complains…wonder whether is it becoz of the different education system that makes poly recruits more independent

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    ditzy's Avatar
    49,650 posts since Dec '03
    • Originally posted by wuming78:
      theres nothing wrong wif tt rite? in fact i would encourage all instructors to be clear with the trainees, regardless of their background and profile, on the rationale behind trg as much as possible. these daes, trainees r more discerning and learned, and they haf more channels to seek redress. so its better to get things out in the open.

      Yes, I agree theres nothing wrong with that. But even the simplest of all tasks and I'm being questioned about my authority? Just get it done and over with. Mad

  • wuming78's Avatar
    17,147 posts since May '03
    • Originally posted by Aim@Me:
      well..they say poly recruits have more initiative and less complains whereas jc recruits tend to "wayang" alot n lots of complains...wonder whether is it becoz of the different education system that makes poly recruits more independent

      i tend to believe these are generalisations, and the tendency of human beings to remember the bad and not notice the normal or the good.

      there is only anecdotal evidence for these claims. as much as one may say "wu feng bu qi lang", i think we should take such claims wif a pinch of salt.

  • wuming78's Avatar
    17,147 posts since May '03
    • Originally posted by ditzy:
      Yes, I agree theres nothing wrong with that. But even the simplest of all tasks and I'm being questioned about my authority? Just get it done and over with. Mad

      think we haf to make it clear to them tt they can question the rationale behind things during trg, but when it comes to ops, there is no way questions will be entertained. its follow the orders or else.

      and also make it clear tt questioning rationale does not mean they can question the authority vested in the rank and appointment. the latter should not be tolerated.

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    ditzy's Avatar
    49,650 posts since Dec '03
    • Originally posted by wuming78:
      think we haf to make it clear to them tt they can question the rationale behind things during trg, but when it comes to ops, there is no way questions will be entertained. its follow the orders or else.

      and also make it clear tt questioning rationale does not mean they can question the authority vested in the rank and appointment. the latter should not be tolerated.

      Yea, now we're talkin'... Imagine having someone like Ayukat under your wing. No pun intended, but it just gives me the shudders. brrrr... Neutral

  • BrUtUs's Avatar
    12,015 posts since Apr '03
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    ditzy's Avatar
    49,650 posts since Dec '03
  • Aim@Me's Avatar
    153 posts since Apr '04
  • wuming78's Avatar
    17,147 posts since May '03
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    ditzy's Avatar
    49,650 posts since Dec '03
    • Originally posted by wuming78:
      y do u say tt?

      Fault me if I'm wrong, but I'm agreeing to Brutus because I'm biased based on my own experience. Neutral

  • wuming78's Avatar
    17,147 posts since May '03
    • Originally posted by ditzy:
      Fault me if I'm wrong, but I'm agreeing to Brutus because I'm biased based on my own experience. Neutral

      no lah. this is a discussion - there is no right or wrong. i was just asking him wat made him say tt mah. mus haf some reasons behind his statement.

  • donjng's Avatar
    348 posts since Mar '04
  • BrUtUs's Avatar
    12,015 posts since Apr '03
    • Originally posted by wuming78:
      y do u say tt?

      got encounter them b4 n they things do sui sui wan lor...

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    ditzy's Avatar
    49,650 posts since Dec '03
    • Originally posted by donjng:
      I think most JC guys are really pampered, man!

      I wouldn't say its 'pampered', more like 'spoon*cough*fed'. Rolling Eyes

  • Aim@Me's Avatar
    153 posts since Apr '04
    • hmm have to admit i was from jc batch during bmt too...and sorta agree lar...some of us r too pampered n some of my platoonmates were so damn "wayang" that i juz coulnt stand them....well can understand why my instructor frens tinks that way....for me i never taken poly or jc batch b4 so cannot compare between them.....juz a whole bunch of fun filled problematic hokkien pengs under me in an infantry unit Cool

  • wuming78's Avatar
    17,147 posts since May '03
    • in the end aloto traits we associate with a certain group of people can actually be used to describe the larger and more general group.

      im not trying to protect any group. i was never an instructor before so i cannot make any comparisons. and so far my instructor friends have never made similar comments to me.

  • Moonstriker's Avatar
    1,046 posts since Aug '02
    • Originally posted by Aim@Me:
      well..they say poly recruits have more initiative and less complains whereas jc recruits tend to "wayang" alot n lots of complains...wonder whether is it becoz of the different education system that makes poly recruits more independent

      totally!!! met JC peepz on busses and complain so much abt so crowded lah... then don't want to give up seats for an elderly couple carrying grandchild.

  • Moonstriker's Avatar
    1,046 posts since Aug '02
    • Originally posted by wuming78:
      in the end aloto traits we associate with a certain group of people can actually be used to describe the larger and more general group.

      im not trying to protect any group. i was never an instructor before so i cannot make any comparisons. and so far my instructor friends have never made similar comments to me.

      in camp or in civilian clothes... JC students esp the guys.. very gu niang.

  • larrenV2.003's Avatar
    7,125 posts since Aug '03
    • Originally posted by Aim@Me:
      well heard from instructor friends in bmtc that generally they felt that poly batch of recruits r better than jc batch of recruits...any comments??

      For your info it all depends on individual's mindset & attitude regardless of education even those bo tak chew(no study) also can perform equally good as them......... Rolling Eyes got some uni batch also damn slack & FU*KED up attitude also especially some MO's... Rolling Eyes

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