http://sgforums.com/forums/12/topics/205937 en-US 60 <p>Another thing i want to add is: let's assume the girl likes him a lot. But her character is another separate matter. For his case, it seems like the girl is acting like a princess?<br /> <br /> He has to ask himself if he can stand to be with a princess.</p> Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:28:37 +0800 sgforums.com:12:205937:5246563 dokono http://sgforums.com/forums/12/topics/205937 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Devil1976:</div> <div class="quote_body">'Wrong' as in you're applying your own firm of mentality and principle in his situation. His girl can be stubborn if not easily provoked.<br /> <br /> I feel that to you, such girls might not be really worth the time at all. But to him, she's someone really quite valuable.. Quite too valuable to lose?</div> </blockquote> <p>well..that's the point. Im not trying to impose my point of view.<br /> <br /> See, my point is this: give the girl space, even if he is dying inside to see the girl. It can only help him. You see, yes the girl is valuable to him. But is he valuable to the girl? Why would you want to love someone who doesn't like you? Why would you always want to be with someone who puts you down? One who keeps bashing your self-esteem? That's not very loving. You see my point?<br /> <br /> Cheers</p> Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:16:02 +0800 sgforums.com:12:205937:5246516 dokono http://sgforums.com/forums/12/topics/205937 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by dokono:</div> <div class="quote_body">Hi Devil<br /> <br /> wrong as in?<br /> <br /> Cheers</div> </blockquote> <p>'Wrong' as in you're applying your own firm of mentality and principle in his situation. His girl can be stubborn if not easily provoked.<br /> <br /> I feel that to you, such girls might not be really worth the time at all. But to him, she's someone really quite valuable.. Quite too valuable to lose?</p> Wed, 06 Sep 2006 09:23:57 +0800 sgforums.com:12:205937:5245476 Devil1976 http://sgforums.com/forums/12/topics/205937 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Devil1976:</div> <div class="quote_body">No offence. But I sense you could be teaching him the 'wrong' things?</div> </blockquote> <p>Hi Devil<br /> <br /> wrong as in?<br /> <br /> Cheers</p> Tue, 05 Sep 2006 11:52:03 +0800 sgforums.com:12:205937:5241224 dokono http://sgforums.com/forums/12/topics/205937 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Devil1976:</div> <div class="quote_body">As much as you might think that you're a slave to her mood, have you give a thought to her? That perhaps... She's also quite a 'slave' to her own mood...?<br /> <br /> With a gf like yours, you'll need other friends... It'll be good if you can build some common friends between you and her... Would be better if you can build a friendship between both of you directly...<br /> <br /> I think she genuinely do care about how you feel and perhaps even bad for making you 'suffer'... But like I've said... All these should be after her mood... Sometimes you'll probably just be seeing her as someone having a split-personality... If you like to think it that way... Weird?<br /> <br /> Don't be a 'weakling' in front of her... Chances are, she hate people like that... Have your own stand and grounds.. But let her know that you'll willing to give in to her on the grounds that you love her... Whether she shows it or not... End of the day, your love and kind for her would probably be appreciated...<br /> <br /> Do not be too 'cool' a guy. Act 'cool' and you'll probably be treated coldly as equal return... Not to mention the distance that it could bring between you and her with time to come... Unless you can be a real naturally dominating type of guy (which I doubt in you), even then.... You'll pronbably only be able to 'control' her but not necessarily make her happy....<br /> <br /> This last piece is from your other post... About 'cooking together' and such... Remember... She's not your average type of 'girl next door' who enjoy routines most of the time...</div> </blockquote> <p>wah...where did you ever learn to analyse people like that?? it seems so accurate, seems to be such a fit..<br /> <br /> u mention she's maybe also a 'slave' to her own moods, now that i look at it from this angle, i think it could be quite true..<br /> <br /> also.. split-personality? yes! 1 minute there can be so much overflowing love from her until i feel so blessed and the next minute she can turn as cold and hard as a metal bar.</p> Tue, 05 Sep 2006 10:00:40 +0800 sgforums.com:12:205937:5240625 jeramy http://sgforums.com/forums/12/topics/205937 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by jeramy:</div> <div class="quote_body">spot on man devil...spot on..<br /> <br /> sometimes being embroiled into this situation makes me feel like i'm acting like a slave to her. which i know shouldnt be like that.<br /> <br /> in my previous relationships i realised that i've been too much of a good guy already.. always giving in and giving in, even when i'm in a terrible mood i need to put a smile and jus shrug it off...after all, who gives a damn when i'm sad, down, angry or depressed?<br /> <br /> so i've told myself to be harder this time around and be more xiao sa...but then again, words are cheap, and i just cannot bring myself to do it.. example..when she throws tempers at me what i think i should do is to just 'keep a low profile' as u put it and leave her alone..<br /> <br /> but then there will be this irresistable urge inside me to want to quickly go and pacify her and allievate any bad feelings that she might have...i just want so much..so much to protect the relationship... to put it simply, i jus cannot sit and watch and do nothing when something happens..<br /> <br /> also, always after something happens and she recovers from her bad mood, she will say she feels bad for treating me badly, but, if she feels bad, then why treat me badly in the first place..<br /> <br /> sometimes i wonder how much weight does her words hold.<br /> <br /> sighz jian gu tou..<br /> <br /> ps: what do u mean by working on that 'friendship' between me and her??</div> </blockquote> <p>As much as you might think that you're a slave to her mood, have you give a thought to her? That perhaps... She's also quite a 'slave' to her own mood...?<br /> <br /> With a gf like yours, you'll need other friends... It'll be good if you can build some common friends between you and her... Would be better if you can build a friendship between both of you directly...<br /> <br /> I think she genuinely do care about how you feel and perhaps even bad for making you 'suffer'... But like I've said... All these should be after her mood... Sometimes you'll probably just be seeing her as someone having a split-personality... If you like to think it that way... Weird?<br /> <br /> Don't be a 'weakling' in front of her... Chances are, she hate people like that... Have your own stand and grounds.. But let her know that you'll willing to give in to her on the grounds that you love her... Whether she shows it or not... End of the day, your love and kind for her would probably be appreciated...<br /> <br /> Do not be too 'cool' a guy. Act 'cool' and you'll probably be treated coldly as equal return... Not to mention the distance that it could bring between you and her with time to come... Unless you can be a real naturally dominating type of guy (which I doubt in you), even then.... You'll pronbably only be able to 'control' her but not necessarily make her happy....<br /> <br /> This last piece is from your other post... About 'cooking together' and such... Remember... She's not your average type of 'girl next door' who enjoy routines most of the time...</p> Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:05:40 +0800 sgforums.com:12:205937:5236969 Devil1976 http://sgforums.com/forums/12/topics/205937 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by dokono:</div> <div class="quote_body">Don't worry guy. Now you know all these mistakes. Work on correcting them. Have you ever thought of leaving her? Seems like her character is such that it will make you suffer silently. She seems like a stubborn and rigid person. Are you going to spend your life with someone who keeps putting you down?<br /> <br /> Guy, have the courage and discipline and work on those weak areas. Your masculinity will show in time.</div> </blockquote> <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by dokono:</div> <div class="quote_body">Would you? Shouldn't you be excited when you have high interest in someone, especially your bf? Definitely right?<br /> <br /> The reason is because you have been too available to her. Seeing her too much. No space means she doesn't miss you much. Maybe it's better to leave her a while for a week or two without much sms or phone calls or MSN chats etc.<br /> <br /> After some time, try to ask her out again. When you are out with her, make her laugh as much as possible without touching her.</div> </blockquote> <p>No offence. But I sense you could be teaching him the 'wrong' things?</p> Mon, 04 Sep 2006 13:55:03 +0800 sgforums.com:12:205937:5236926 Devil1976 http://sgforums.com/forums/12/topics/205937 <p>had those experience be4.. my ex did changed.. but i guess it was too late alrdy den we broke up after 2yrs... nw currently i noe a gal.. she oso dun understand my feelings n stuffs.. i haf hinted n even told her directly.. she juz sorta shrugged/laugh it off.. haiz.. it hurts mi man.. suffering silently.. <img title= "Crying or Very sad" src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_cry.gif" alt="Crying or Very sad" /> <img title="Crying or Very sad" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_cry.gif" alt= "Crying or Very sad" /></p> Tue, 29 Aug 2006 01:06:23 +0800 sgforums.com:12:205937:5210303 HolySniper http://sgforums.com/forums/12/topics/205937 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by jeramy:</div> <div class="quote_body">i dunno if she's excited to see me or not, from what i sense whenever i go out with her, she seems quite happy to me. bear in mind its ALWAYS ME asking her out, so i cannot be absolutely sure if she feels excited or not, perhaps what i sense is my own wishful thinking i also dunno.<br /> <br /> what im trying to say is, if you are really excited to meet someone, when u have free time, would initiate to meet him/her at least sometimes??</div> </blockquote> <p>Would you? Shouldn't you be excited when you have high interest in someone, especially your bf? Definitely right?<br /> <br /> The reason is because you have been too available to her. Seeing her too much. No space means she doesn't miss you much. Maybe it's better to leave her a while for a week or two without much sms or phone calls or MSN chats etc.<br /> <br /> After some time, try to ask her out again. When you are out with her, make her laugh as much as possible without touching her.</p> Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:55:02 +0800 sgforums.com:12:205937:5210019 dokono http://sgforums.com/forums/12/topics/205937 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by jeramy:<br /> <br /> Mistake 1: Becoming like a slave to her. Learn to say NO sometimes. Don't try to control her life but learn to say NO sometimes. Learn to give and take. Let her know you are not happy with how she treats you and she will like you more. She will respect you more and love you.<br /> <br /> i did tell her, i did let her know that i'm not happy with certain treatments, although not explicitly, but she knows. most of the time her reply to me would juz be "i'm like that lor"<br /> <br /> then what can i say next? i also dunno.<br /> <br /> Mistake 2: Don't just leave her alone when she blasts her temper on you. Say you are not going to argue with her. Defuse the situation with a joke. Treat it like it doesn't hurt you.<br /> <br /> can try, but its going to take hell a lot of effort.<br /> <br /> Mistake 3: You are being too nice a guy. Don't get me wrong. Show her respect, manners and don't take her for granted. Stop being a wimp by trying to pacify her. That's not the main purpose. The point is not to allow her to take you for granted, allow her to treat you like dirt.<br /> <br /> yeh. sometimes i hate myself for being such a wimp also.</div> <div class="quote_body"></div> </blockquote> <p>Don't worry guy. Now you know all these mistakes. Work on correcting them. Have you ever thought of leaving her? Seems like her character is such that it will make you suffer silently. She seems like a stubborn and rigid person. Are you going to spend your life with someone who keeps putting you down?<br /> <br /> Guy, have the courage and discipline and work on those weak areas. Your masculinity will show in time.</p> Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:39:10 +0800 sgforums.com:12:205937:5209940 dokono http://sgforums.com/forums/12/topics/205937 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by dokono:</div> <div class="quote_body">I hate to break the bad news to you. You mean ur gf is not excited to see you? even on days as important as on weekends?<br /> <br /> give her space. How often do you contact her? cut it down by half. maybe wait for a week or two then ask her out again. Remember, give her space.<br /></div> </blockquote> <p>i dunno if she's excited to see me or not, from what i sense whenever i go out with her, she seems quite happy to me. bear in mind its ALWAYS ME asking her out, so i cannot be absolutely sure if she feels excited or not, perhaps what i sense is my own wishful thinking i also dunno.<br /> <br /> what im trying to say is, if you are really excited to meet someone, when u have free time, would initiate to meet him/her at least sometimes??</p> Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:28:08 +0800 sgforums.com:12:205937:5209884 jeramy http://sgforums.com/forums/12/topics/205937 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by dokono:</div> <div class="quote_body">Mistake 1: Becoming like a slave to her. Learn to say NO sometimes. Don't try to control her life but learn to say NO sometimes. Learn to give and take. Let her know you are not happy with how she treats you and she will like you more. She will respect you more and love you.<br /> <br /> <span style="color: red;">i did tell her, i did let her know that i'm not happy with certain treatments, although not explicitly, but she knows. most of the time her reply to me would juz be "i'm like that lor"<br /> <br /> then what can i say next? i also dunno.</span><br /> <br /> Mistake 2: Don't just leave her alone when she blasts her temper on you. Say you are not going to argue with her. Defuse the situation with a joke. Treat it like it doesn't hurt you.<br /> <br /> <span style="color: red;">can try, but its going to take hell a lot of effort.</span><br /> <br /> Mistake 3: You are being too nice a guy. Don't get me wrong. Show her respect, manners and don't take her for granted. Stop being a wimp by trying to pacify her. That's not the main purpose. The point is not to allow her to take you for granted, allow her to treat you like dirt.<br /> <br /> <span style="color: red;">yeh. sometimes i hate myself for being such a wimp also.</span><br /> <br /> Does a loving gf nag at her bf? Is she loving ? You ask yourself.</div> </blockquote> Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:22:50 +0800 sgforums.com:12:205937:5209864 jeramy http://sgforums.com/forums/12/topics/205937 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by jeramy:</div> <div class="quote_body">spot on man devil...spot on..<br /> <br /> sometimes being embroiled into this situation makes me feel like i'm acting like a slave to her. which i know shouldnt be like that.<br /> <br /> in my previous relationships i realised that i've been too much of a good guy already.. always giving in and giving in, even when i'm in a terrible mood i need to put a smile and jus shrug it off...after all, who gives a damn when i'm sad, down, angry or depressed?<br /> <br /> so i've told myself to be harder this time around and be more xiao sa...but then again, words are cheap, and i just cannot bring myself to do it.. example..when she throws tempers at me what i think i should do is to just 'keep a low profile' as u put it and leave her alone..<br /> <br /> but then there will be this irresistable urge inside me to want to quickly go and pacify her and allievate any bad feelings that she might have...i just want so much..so much to protect the relationship... to put it simply, i jus cannot sit and watch and do nothing when something happens..<br /> <br /> also, always after something happens and she recovers from her bad mood, she will say she feels bad for treating me badly, but, if she feels bad, then why treat me badly in the first place..<br /> <br /> sometimes i wonder how much weight does her words hold.<br /> <br /> sighz jian gu tou..<br /> <br /> ps: what do u mean by working on that 'friendship' between me and her??</div> </blockquote> <p>Mistake 1: Becoming like a slave to her. Learn to say NO sometimes. Don't try to control her life but learn to say NO sometimes. Learn to give and take. Let her know you are not happy with how she treats you and she will like you more. She will respect you more and love you.<br /> <br /> Mistake 2: Don't just leave her alone when she blasts her temper on you. Say you are not going to argue with her. Defuse the situation with a joke. Treat it like it doesn't hurt you.<br /> <br /> Mistake 3: You are being too nice a guy. Don't get me wrong. Show her respect, manners and don't take her for granted. Stop being a wimp by trying to pacify her. That's not the main purpose. The point is not to allow her to take you for granted, allow her to treat you like dirt.<br /> <br /> Does a loving gf nag at her bf? Is she loving ? You ask yourself.</p> Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:01:48 +0800 sgforums.com:12:205937:5209770 dokono http://sgforums.com/forums/12/topics/205937 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by jeramy:</div> <div class="quote_body">The new school term has just started a week ago (Uni) hence my gf and i will both be schooling on the weekdays and will only be free during the weekends.<br /> <br /> So recently i asked her out during the weekends and she told me that she's tired and wanted to rest at home.<br /> <br /> Which leaves me puzzled, if we dun meet on the weekends (which is our only free time), that means we do not have to meet at all?<br /> <br /> By the looks of it, doesnt it mean that i can forget about going out with her for the rest of the school term? since its only the first week and she feels tired and wants to rest at home. as the term progress the workload increases i think i can kiss goodbye to the thought of meeting her?<br /> <br /> fyi, the relationship has passed the honeymoon period.<br /> <br /> For people out there, do you still meet your other half when you are tired? Do you prefer to stay at home and do nothing than meet up with your other half?</div> </blockquote> <p>I hate to break the bad news to you. You mean ur gf is not excited to see you? even on days as important as on weekends?<br /> <br /> give her space. How often do you contact her? cut it down by half. maybe wait for a week or two then ask her out again. Remember, give her space.<br /></p> Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:31:49 +0800 sgforums.com:12:205937:5209583 dokono http://sgforums.com/forums/12/topics/205937 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by dragoncat:</div> <div class="quote_body">I have the same sentiments as u!<br /> <br /> I am in a similar situation as you. Sometimes I feel that I have over pampered her and is always subject to her temper and emotional swings.<br /> <br /> Sigh...</div> </blockquote> <p>care to elaborate on your situation? maybe we can give each other support..<br /> <br /> you, too, feel that she puts her mood first before you? while she means almost everything to u?</p> Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:26:48 +0800 sgforums.com:12:205937:5208937 jeramy http://sgforums.com/forums/12/topics/205937 <p>I have the same sentiments as u!<br /> <br /> I am in a similar situation as you. Sometimes I feel that I have over pampered her and is always subject to her temper and emotional swings.<br /> <br /> Sigh...</p> Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:52:41 +0800 sgforums.com:12:205937:5207947 dragoncat http://sgforums.com/forums/12/topics/205937 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by SGpork:</div> <div class="quote_body">maybe she is really tired n stress thats why dont want go out?<br /> nvm lei first week only..dosent mean she wont go out nxt time..?<br /> go her house lo.....<br /> <br /> if gf ask me out..how tired also will meet...<br /> <img title="Laughing" src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" /> <img title="Laughing" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" /> <img title="Laughing" src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" /><br /> <br /> unless..im sick..really sick then..cannt lo..<br /> <br /></div> </blockquote> <p>first week only...thats the exact thing that makes me worried... if you are from poly you will know that first week has got nothing to do one.. and next time further in the semester when all the projects arrive all the deadlines arrive wouldn't it be more tired and stress than now??<br /> <br /> i cannot understand her mentality man... haiz<br /> <br /> well we think alike.. i will meet her no matter what, unless i'm bed-ridden. but apparently she does not think so...</p> Sun, 27 Aug 2006 21:42:55 +0800 sgforums.com:12:205937:5204560 jeramy http://sgforums.com/forums/12/topics/205937 <p>maybe she is really tired n stress thats why dont want go out?<br /> nvm lei first week only..dosent mean she wont go out nxt time..?<br /> go her house lo.....<br /> <br /> if gf ask me out..how tired also will meet...<br /> <img title="Laughing" src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" /> <img title="Laughing" src= "/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" /> <img title="Laughing" src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" /><br /> <br /> unless..im sick..really sick then..cannt lo..<br /> <br /></p> Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:43:10 +0800 sgforums.com:12:205937:5203715 SGpork http://sgforums.com/forums/12/topics/205937 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by LordIcarus:</div> <div class="quote_body">Dude, why on earth do you care whether her house is small anot. Spending quality time together doesn't mean you have to do something dark.<br /> You can just sit there enjoy popcorn that you've both made and watch some movies.</div> </blockquote> <p>well you and i share the same mentality...as long as a couple is together it really doesnt matter what are the activities that they do...as long as they are together rite?<br /> <br /> but she does not...she deems such activities (preparing meals together etc etc ) 'boring'...</p> Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:30:01 +0800 sgforums.com:12:205937:5203687 jeramy http://sgforums.com/forums/12/topics/205937 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by jeramy:</div> <div class="quote_body">its hard... her house is very small and she doesnt have her own room.<br /> <br /> somehow i dun think she like the idea of me going to her house</div> </blockquote> <p>Dude, why on earth do you care whether her house is small anot. Spending quality time together doesn't mean you have to do something dark.<br /> You can just sit there enjoy popcorn that you've both made and watch some movies.</p> Sat, 26 Aug 2006 18:37:46 +0800 sgforums.com:12:205937:5200048 LordIcarus http://sgforums.com/forums/12/topics/205937 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Devil1976:</div> <div class="quote_body">That's one thing you can't see in her... She can be VERY COMFORTING too when you're in trouble... But of course... Her mood and condition often comes 1st... In other words, she probably needs to be in quite a good order to offer you kind... Unless.. You're really working pretty well on the 'friendship' between you and her too...? That might just make her work a few extras for you...<br /> <br /> If you should know her by now... Probably can throw (small?) tempers at you or get very easily irritated over slighest things when she's in a bad mood....<br /> <br /> When you're down and she's down too.. And you can't seems to get much of the assistance or reassurance you need from her... Personally advice is perhaps you can look for friends instead...?<br /> <br /> When she's not in the mood, it's advisable for you to go on a lower profile...?<br /> <br /> And yup... To an extent you'll probably have leave much room for her mood for now... If you're here to stay with her...? Some time after... When she learns to be more mature or when your relationship with her ripens... Her attitude might just change for the better.... Till then? She's not quite your 'routine' and 'systematic' girl in a daily office....</div> </blockquote> <p>spot on man devil...spot on..<br /> <br /> sometimes being embroiled into this situation makes me feel like i'm acting like a slave to her. which i know shouldnt be like that.<br /> <br /> in my previous relationships i realised that i've been too much of a good guy already.. always giving in and giving in, even when i'm in a terrible mood i need to put a smile and jus shrug it off...after all, who gives a damn when i'm sad, down, angry or depressed?<br /> <br /> so i've told myself to be harder this time around and be more xiao sa...but then again, words are cheap, and i just cannot bring myself to do it.. example..when she throws tempers at me what i think i should do is to just 'keep a low profile' as u put it and leave her alone..<br /> <br /> but then there will be this irresistable urge inside me to want to quickly go and pacify her and allievate any bad feelings that she might have...i just want so much..so much to protect the relationship... to put it simply, i jus cannot sit and watch and do nothing when something happens..<br /> <br /> also, always after something happens and she recovers from her bad mood, she will say she feels bad for treating me badly, but, if she feels bad, then why treat me badly in the first place..<br /> <br /> sometimes i wonder how much weight does her words hold.<br /> <br /> sighz jian gu tou..<br /> <br /> ps: what do u mean by working on that 'friendship' between me and her??</p> Sat, 26 Aug 2006 18:22:12 +0800 sgforums.com:12:205937:5200037 jeramy http://sgforums.com/forums/12/topics/205937 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by jeramy:</div> <div class="quote_body">wa devil...what you said really describe what i feeling now, and your observations are mostly correct..<br /> <br /> one particular thing is very depressing<br /> <br /> <span style="color: red;"><span style= "font-style: italic;">otherwise it'll be always her mood 1st before you...</span></span><br /> <br /> wa...now that i think of it, really i must live by her moods.. when she's happy and jovial then i'll have a good time, but when she gets depressed or tired, then it becomes hell for me...<br /> <br /> i dunno why. when she's tired or depressed i'm the one to comfort and destress her. what abt me? when i'm tired and depressed then how?<br /> <br /></div> </blockquote> <p>That's one thing you can't see in her... She can be VERY COMFORTING too when you're in trouble... But of course... Her mood and condition often comes 1st... In other words, she probably needs to be in quite a good order to offer you kind... Unless.. You're really working pretty well on the 'friendship' between you and her too...? That might just make her work a few extras for you...<br /> <br /> If you should know her by now... Probably can throw (small?) tempers at you or get very easily irritated over slighest things when she's in a bad mood....<br /> <br /> When you're down and she's down too.. And you can't seems to get much of the assistance or reassurance you need from her... Personally advice is perhaps you can look for friends instead...?<br /> <br /> When she's not in the mood, it's advisable for you to go on a lower profile...?<br /> <br /> And yup... To an extent you'll probably have leave much room for her mood for now... If you're here to stay with her...? Some time after... When she learns to be more mature or when your relationship with her ripens... Her attitude might just change for the better.... Till then? She's not quite your 'routine' and 'systematic' girl in a daily office....</p> Thu, 24 Aug 2006 12:35:56 +0800 sgforums.com:12:205937:5190325 Devil1976 http://sgforums.com/forums/12/topics/205937 <p>Of course when u are tired u wouldn’t wanna go out. You would wanna rest.</p> Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:44:40 +0800 sgforums.com:12:205937:5189737 packjust http://sgforums.com/forums/12/topics/205937 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by choco B:</div> <div class="quote_body">You're like the guy version of that girl in the other thread who asked about "ti tie" <img title="Laughing" src="/images/emoticons/classic/icon_lol.gif" alt= "Laughing" /><br /> <br /> It's not the actions per se. If you wanna do them, it's all good and fine.<br /> <br /> The important thing is to see how she reacts and reciprocates. Does she go:<br /> <br /> "Oh that's nice! Can't wait for your next surprise, must be bigger and better ok??" . . ... &amp; she waits for your surprise during the next occassion (birthday, Xmas, etc)<br /> <br /> OR<br /> <br /> "Oh that's nice! I'll think of something sweet to do for you in return. " .. . . . &amp; she really does it!<br /> <br /> There's got to be taking and giving by both of you.. not one person gives and the other takes all the time...<br /></div> </blockquote> <p>she says she's touched lor, but never explicitly say will do something in return la... although i've hinted to her many times that somethings surprises from her will make me very happy also...<br /> <br /> so i'm still waiting to see what kind of surprise she'd give me lor...</p> Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:23:26 +0800 sgforums.com:12:205937:5188134 jeramy http://sgforums.com/forums/12/topics/205937 <blockquote> <div class="quote_from">Originally posted by Devil1976:</div> <div class="quote_body">It's nice to do plannings and surprises for her... But you don't have to make it a routine.... And pls try not to 'overwork' yourself on the plannings and such... Somehow it could just be overdoing it...? It's nice to pamper her, but if you overdo it... You'll just be spoiling her and guess who would be the one left to face the consequences...? Moreover... Are you planning on going short-term with her or on a long-term relationship...? At the rate you're going, you'll probably just burn yourself out in no time at all....?<br /> <br /> Her mood swings... Guess it would often be you asking her out... Especially the way you're handling things now.. Be prepared to face 'rejections'... It's somehow just in her... Unless you can really comfort and interest her, otherwise it'll be always her mood 1st before you...<br /> <br /> Once in a while you can expect her to ask you out... But that'll probably also be because her mood hits her or something...?<br /> <br /> She might not be easy to 'maintain'.... No offence..? But somehow I feel she might not be of your calibre? And yup... She can get bored quite easily...</div> </blockquote> <p>wa devil...what you said really describe what i feeling now, and your observations are mostly correct..<br /> <br /> one particular thing is very depressing<br /> <br /> <span style="color: red;"><span style= "font-style: italic;">otherwise it'll be always her mood 1st before you...</span></span><br /> <br /> wa...now that i think of it, really i must live by her moods.. when she's happy and jovial then i'll have a good time, but when she gets depressed or tired, then it becomes hell for me...<br /> <br /> i dunno why. when she's tired or depressed i'm the one to comfort and destress her. what abt me? when i'm tired and depressed then how?<br /> <br /></p> Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:08:09 +0800 sgforums.com:12:205937:5188057 jeramy http://sgforums.com/forums/12/topics/205937