do you support abortion? replied by SingaporeTyrannosaur @ Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:04:17 +0800

SingaporeTyrannosaur — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:04:17 +0800

Well, how many babies aborted in the world today are really aborted because of medical reasons or are most of the abortions today done "on demand?".

do you support abortion? replied by domonkassyu @ Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:31:46 +0800

domonkassyu — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:31:46 +0800

hmm, since this is after all a christian forum section, why not refer back to the bible? if the baby inside is defected, accept it. God will bless us. abortion will come back to huant the parents with regrets and sadness for life.

btw,soul and spirit is different..

do you support abortion? replied by ~b1RD_m4N~ @ Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:13:34 +0800

~b1RD_m4N~ — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:13:34 +0800

abortion is never going to be right, if it's done to abort an unwanted child from a wrong relationship (polygamy, pre-marital sex etc).

But what about for medical reasons? If it means aborting a 14 day old embryo to save the mother's life?

And 2nd question: fetus = the stage that is nealy a newborn (has the form of a baby, heartbeat of a human, and senses of a person), so they feel pain and sense sound.

people tend to get confused between early stage embryo, late stage embryo and fetuses.

early stage embryo (as early as 14 days after fertilisation) does not look anywhere near a baby, its just a bunch of cells. Its important to know the science before you discuss the ethical issues.

Which leads me to my next question, does life begin after conception? i.e seconds after the sperm + the egg

do you support abortion? replied by kopiosatu @ Mon, 26 May 2008 12:57:35 +0800

kopiosatu — Mon, 26 May 2008 12:57:35 +0800

ho ching is a good reason for abortion

do you support abortion? replied by the Bear @ Mon, 26 May 2008 12:56:00 +0800

the Bear — Mon, 26 May 2008 12:56:00 +0800

as much as i think abortion is wrong, i will support the right of people to seek abortion.. many think that i'm out of my mind for taking a stand like that..

i feel that without the freedom to make such a decision, we will belittle the decision made...

on a side-note, the many semi-sentient people out there seems to be a great advertisement for post-natal abortion

do you support abortion? replied by domonkassyu @ Mon, 26 May 2008 12:51:41 +0800

domonkassyu — Mon, 26 May 2008 12:51:41 +0800

it is written in the bible that abortion is not to be done.if you based your life on the bible and nothing else then you shall not abort.a foetus does have a spirit.a soul is one when the spirit is in the body. a soul is not a spirit.

do you support abortion? replied by Honeybunz @ Thu, 01 May 2008 22:02:13 +0800

Honeybunz — Thu, 01 May 2008 22:02:13 +0800

A message from Mother Theresa...

do you support abortion? replied by Chin Eng @ Thu, 01 May 2008 21:00:29 +0800

Chin Eng — Thu, 01 May 2008 21:00:29 +0800

Originally posted by Mrlimkopi:

dun understand....not having pre-marital sex = weirdo ?

nope. not that part....

all of mr ong's posts tell me that he's a weirdo.

do you support abortion? replied by Mrlimkopi @ Thu, 01 May 2008 20:00:12 +0800

Mrlimkopi — Thu, 01 May 2008 20:00:12 +0800

Originally posted by Chin Eng:

part in bold: hard to say.... would a girl go for a weirdo?

dun understand....not having pre-marital sex = weirdo ?

do you support abortion? replied by escadaraindrops @ Thu, 01 May 2008 19:24:56 +0800

escadaraindrops — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:24:56 +0800

i think it's wrong. if u wanna have sex, have it after your married so you won't need to abort the poor fetus.

do you support abortion? replied by Kuali Baba @ Thu, 01 May 2008 17:53:47 +0800

Kuali Baba — Thu, 01 May 2008 17:53:47 +0800

Originally posted by MeepokBoy:

If a baby is diagnosed with genetic disorders than I think should be the only time abortion be taken into consideration.

I dont know what Christ thinks of this but to me I think the child and loved ones would be spared of more emotional pain in future. Personal thought....

He or she could also grow up to be as inspiring as Helen Keller, and his/her upbringing and the support he/she receives from the parents will likely play a part in that. It's in the interest of the child that he or she should get a chance to receive and experience love. I hope that doesn't sound too preachy.

do you support abortion? replied by Chin Eng @ Thu, 01 May 2008 17:42:53 +0800

Chin Eng — Thu, 01 May 2008 17:42:53 +0800

Originally posted by Mrlimkopi:

I agree with you...if you follow Christ's teaching, you should not be having pre-marital sex in the first place...so no question of gf going for abortion.....and surely no problem finding gf one...

part in bold: hard to say.... would a girl go for a weirdo?

do you support abortion? replied by Sumone3 @ Thu, 01 May 2008 15:10:17 +0800

Sumone3 — Thu, 01 May 2008 15:10:17 +0800

Originally posted by Chin Eng:

Another one of those lame topics, as sumone2 (how many sumones are there really???) had said, what is the real question?!

How about I throw this in: Would a parent attempt to repair a damage child, or would a parent just simply say, what God has given me, I will accept it in whole?

In simple practical terms, if a child can be born with simple defects like a hair-lip, or more serious ailments like a hole in the heart. Do we then say, because God has given me this child, the way it is, I will accept it as it is?

.... or do we attempt to correct it....??

therefore, taking away all healthy children..... should we then abort a really sick child knowing that the child will either NOT survive or have a miserable life throughout his living years?

one more thing....

if, according to Christian doctrines, all children who die as children will go to heaven.... wouldn't this be a more realistic approach?

.... but as someone else had said.... this is a very controversial topic. Let's hope that none of us have to face this question.

.... I am glad I didn't have to come to a point of decision on this issue.

There are three at the moment, apparently got banned because of sending PMs to people that were non-threatening in nature. Very devious methods, so much for being fair.

Anyway, I think we know the intention of TS is not to seek answers to his question but his objective is something else.

So which is the real question?

1) Do you support abortion?

2) Do you believe a foetus possess a soul?

do you support abortion? replied by MeepokBoy @ Thu, 01 May 2008 11:23:18 +0800

MeepokBoy — Thu, 01 May 2008 11:23:18 +0800

If a baby is diagnosed with genetic disorders than I think should be the only time abortion be taken into consideration.

I dont know what Christ thinks of this but to me I think the child and loved ones would be spared of more emotional pain in future. Personal thought....

do you support abortion? replied by Mrlimkopi @ Thu, 01 May 2008 11:11:22 +0800

Mrlimkopi — Thu, 01 May 2008 11:11:22 +0800

Originally posted by Kuali Baba:

I disassociate myself from you and some of your beliefs which aren't even teachings of the Church.

I agree with you...if you follow Christ's teaching, you should not be having pre-marital sex in the first place...so no question of gf going for abortion.....and surely no problem finding gf one...

do you support abortion? replied by Kuali Baba @ Thu, 01 May 2008 02:03:14 +0800

Kuali Baba — Thu, 01 May 2008 02:03:14 +0800

Originally posted by Ongsoosiang:

I agree with kuali baba.Abortion is murder.I will never allow my girlfriend to have abortion if I ever have one.That's why no girl wants to be my girlfriend because I am a religious and morally extremist.

I disassociate myself from you and some of your beliefs which aren't even teachings of the Church.

do you support abortion? replied by malcom @ Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:57:16 +0800

malcom — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:57:16 +0800

Originally posted by Chin Eng:

Another one of those lame topics, as sumone2 (how many sumones are there really???) had said, what is the real question?!

How about I throw this in: Would a parent attempt to repair a damage child, or would a parent just simply say, what God has given me, I will accept it in whole?

In simple practical terms, if a child can be born with simple defects like a hair-lip, or more serious ailments like a hole in the heart. Do we then say, because God has given me this child, the way it is, I will accept it as it is?

.... or do we attempt to correct it....??

therefore, taking away all healthy children..... should we then abort a really sick child knowing that the child will either NOT survive or have a miserable life throughout his living years?

one more thing....

if, according to Christian doctrines, all children who die as children will go to heaven.... wouldn't this be a more realistic approach?

.... but as someone else had said.... this is a very controversial topic. Let's hope that none of us have to face this question.

.... I am glad I didn't have to come to a point of decision on this issue.

Of course it is the responsibility of the parent to repair the damage child. The issue here is the life is not belong to us, we should not decide on someone's life or death, not even our own, it is belong to God.

I am not sure which Christian doctrine you are refering to, but Catholic believe that unborn babies will not go to heaven as they die in original sin, which is only removed during baptism, however as I heard that since they have no fault of their own, they will go to highest part of hell called 'limbo'.

And like you, I also hope and pray that none of us will have to make this tough decision in our life. Because if we are not strong enough to take the burden, it may cost us our relationship with God.

do you support abortion? replied by Chin Eng @ Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:11:48 +0800

Chin Eng — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:11:48 +0800

Another one of those lame topics, as sumone2 (how many sumones are there really???) had said, what is the real question?!

How about I throw this in: Would a parent attempt to repair a damage child, or would a parent just simply say, what God has given me, I will accept it in whole?

In simple practical terms, if a child can be born with simple defects like a hair-lip, or more serious ailments like a hole in the heart. Do we then say, because God has given me this child, the way it is, I will accept it as it is?

.... or do we attempt to correct it....??

therefore, taking away all healthy children..... should we then abort a really sick child knowing that the child will either NOT survive or have a miserable life throughout his living years?

one more thing....

if, according to Christian doctrines, all children who die as children will go to heaven.... wouldn't this be a more realistic approach?

.... but as someone else had said.... this is a very controversial topic. Let's hope that none of us have to face this question.

.... I am glad I didn't have to come to a point of decision on this issue.

do you support abortion? replied by seotiblizzard @ Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:28:52 +0800

seotiblizzard — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:28:52 +0800

Originally posted by Ongsoosiang:

I agree with kuali baba.Abortion is murder.I will never allow my girlfriend to have abortion if I ever have one.That's why no girl wants to be my girlfriend because I am a religious and morally extremist.

HAHAHAHA!

Yea.

I think we all knw.

Everything is satanic to u.

do you support abortion? replied by Ongsoosiang @ Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:26:22 +0800

Ongsoosiang — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:26:22 +0800

Originally posted by Kuali Baba:

Life starts from conception, and all foetuses, wanted, disabled or otherwise, are equally important in the eyes of the Lord.

I agree with kuali baba.Abortion is murder.I will never allow my girlfriend to have abortion if I ever have one.That's why no girl wants to be my girlfriend because I am a religious and morally extremist.

do you support abortion? replied by Kuali Baba @ Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:51:47 +0800

Kuali Baba — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:51:47 +0800

Life starts from conception, and all foetuses, wanted, disabled or otherwise, are equally important in the eyes of the Lord.

do you support abortion? replied by marriegarcia @ Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:59:52 +0800

marriegarcia — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:59:52 +0800

I dun support on abortion but sometimes when it happens, it happened.

Just recently had a miscarriage because my baby heart beat stop. However, I have to go for abortion to remove my womb.

Anyway, all things happen for good for He is my provider.

do you support abortion? replied by monoslayer @ Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:33:44 +0800

monoslayer — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:33:44 +0800

Originally posted by malcom:

I belive life begin at fertilization or conception, so to abort is as good as to kill, it is that simple.
And in 10 Commandments, it is only say "You shall not kill", not "You shall not kill unless the mother life is in danger, or the baby may born with handicap, etc. etc."
I believe that we don't have the right to decide upon our own life, of course we also dont have right to decide that the baby should die.
Because I think God is powerful enough to save the baby from being handicaped or save the mother from death if He wants to, but if He decides that we should take up our cross, we are not fit to decide other way.

spare us the preaching pls.

do you support abortion? replied by nehpyh @ Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:25:48 +0800

nehpyh — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:25:48 +0800

Soul or no soul....if you cannot support the baby yourself or if you know the baby has defects, or if you have STDs, please abort.

do you support abortion? replied by malcom @ Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:20:35 +0800

malcom — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:20:35 +0800

I belive life begin at fertilization or conception, so to abort is as good as to kill, it is that simple.
And in 10 Commandments, it is only say "You shall not kill", not "You shall not kill unless the mother life is in danger, or the baby may born with handicap, etc. etc."
I believe that we don't have the right to decide upon our own life, of course we also dont have right to decide that the baby should die.
Because I think God is powerful enough to save the baby from being handicaped or save the mother from death if He wants to, but if He decides that we should take up our cross, we are not fit to decide other way.

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