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  • Moderator
    Gordonator's Avatar
    43,183 posts since Jul '04
    • Indonesia has asked Singapore to exempt Indonesian citizens who are permanent residents from performing National Service.

       

      Foreign Minister Hassan Wirajuda said that such an exemption was necessary as Indonesian citizens doing military service in another country risk losing their citizenship.

       

      ‘For our citizens, whatever the reason, undertaking foreign military training would mean losing their citizenship under the citizenship law,’ Mr Hassan was quoted as saying by the Republika daily on Friday.

       

      He said that the issue of national service for Indonesian citizens with permanent resident status had been around since the Singapore government started requiring foreign citizens with such status to be enlisted.

       

      ‘In our communication with the Singapore government, we have requested that Indonesian citizens, including those with permanent resident status, to be exempted from doing national service,’ he said.

       

      He did not disclose when the Indonesian government had made the request.

      He also said the government could only remind Indonesians that under the law, their citizenship could be revoked if they agreed to be enlisted.

       

      from the straits times on 22nd Feb 08

  • Vigelic's Avatar
    1,087 posts since Mar '07
  • dark_riverter's Avatar
    43 posts since Feb '06
    • Well it's time the PRs chose whether to stay here and serve like the rest of us or fuck off back to where they came from.

       

      Don't expect Singaporeans to defend PRs who won't serve yet come here after hearing that jobs pay better than their shithole countries.

  • Mas Selamat Kastari
    Xcert's Avatar
    9,649 posts since Dec '01
    • Originally posted by Gordonator:

      Indonesia has asked Singapore to exempt Indonesian citizens who are permanent residents from performing National Service.

       

      Foreign Minister Hassan Wirajuda said that such an exemption was necessary as Indonesian citizens doing military service in another country risk losing their citizenship.

       

      ‘For our citizens, whatever the reason, undertaking foreign military training would mean losing their citizenship under the citizenship law,’ Mr Hassan was quoted as saying by the Republika daily on Friday.

       

      He said that the issue of national service for Indonesian citizens with permanent resident status had been around since the Singapore government started requiring foreign citizens with such status to be enlisted.

       

      ‘In our communication with the Singapore government, we have requested that Indonesian citizens, including those with permanent resident status, to be exempted from doing national service,’ he said.

       

      He did not disclose when the Indonesian government had made the request.

      He also said the government could only remind Indonesians that under the law, their citizenship could be revoked if they agreed to be enlisted.

       

      from the straits times on 22nd Feb 08


      if Singapore exempt any nationalities...I will be looking at migration seriously.angry.png

      Edited by Xcert 25 Feb `08, 10:24PM
  • AlphaWhiskey02's Avatar
    31 posts since Feb '08
    • dun think that mindef agrees. then if every country just writes in, then what's the point in the government wooing foreigners to be PRs?

  • Dr Who's Avatar
    1,359 posts since Aug '04
    • Indonesian is like a dried up old woman who cannot control the fires burning in her own backyard.

      Burning to poison her neighbours again and again

      I piss on Indonesia for making me smell her smoke again.......pui.....

       

  • Moderator
    Gordonator's Avatar
    43,183 posts since Jul '04
    • they shouldn't put the blame on national service. it is up to their citizens to choose whether they want the citizenship or not. no one is forcing them. they have a choice to reject but seeing how the country treat the chinese over there, i think the answer is obvious. icon_rolleyes.gif

  • BrUtUs's Avatar
    12,080 posts since Apr '03
  • Medicated Oil's Avatar
    2,128 posts since Dec '03
    • If these rich kids are rich enough to come over, they are also smart enough to get a exemption, just like what the rest of the white horse and rich brats in sg did.

      So, it is a win-win situation cos no one would know whether the indo PR serve NS or not.

      The poodles want them for their $$$, so they will not make life difficult for them.

      Sin City is a money state.

  • Ponders's Avatar
    4,552 posts since Oct '99
    • I served NS even though I am PR.

      I think Indon government should look at themselves and ask WHY their citizens are migrating. Rather than asking other govts to exempt its citizen from PR, it should instead look at the root of the problem.

      Indon PRs WANTING to serve NS in Singapore simply means that life is so bad there that they feel they are better off serving NS overseas and staying at the new country.

      But I feel sad for Singaporeans who serves NS and do not understand and will refuse to understand that they took many things for granted.

  • victor_porsche911's Avatar
    20 posts since Mar '05
    • If Indon PRs are allowed to escape NS and can still stay here, I'll personally escort them to East Coast and make sure they fucking swim back to where the fuck they came from.

  • Ponders's Avatar
    4,552 posts since Oct '99
    • I would also like to say that the voice of that foreign minister does not reflect his ppl's wishes..

  • Shotgun's Avatar
    5,703 posts since Jul '00
    • More like Indonesians are intentionally doing NS in Singapore to get rid of their useless Indon citizenships.

  • Ponders's Avatar
    4,552 posts since Oct '99
    • Originally posted by Shotgun:

      More like Indonesians are intentionally doing NS in Singapore to get rid of their useless Indon citizenships.

      actually, there ain't many Indonesians serving NS in the first place.

      and those that did, chose to remain a PR instead.

  • Fatum's Avatar
    22,373 posts since Aug '05
    • Originally posted by victor_porsche911:

      If Indon PRs are allowed to escape NS and can still stay here, I'll personally escort them to East Coast and make sure they fucking swim back to where the fuck they came from.

      it's so easy to do .... they just have to apply later ... say in their 30s ... too old for NS ....

      then you get a Singapore PR without having to do NS, no ? ...

  • blitzonic's Avatar
    588 posts since Jun '07
    • Indonesia needs to get its own house in order first, in this case awarding their Chinese full citizenship rights. That’s why them rich merchants keep sending their sons over to study here, & taking up PR along the way …

  • joshua182's Avatar
    158 posts since Dec '07
    • i see there's been an excellent job done at propaganding national service. makes one a real man eh.

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