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Refusal to serve and conscientious objection
Those who are liable to serve national service, but refuse to, are charged under an Enlistment Act. If convicted, face imprisonment for a period of three years and a fine of S$10,000.
Defence Minister Teo Chee Hean provided some illustration of the punishments defaulters would face:- Where the default period exceeds two years but the defaulter is
young enough to serve his full-time and operationally ready NS
duties in full, MINDEF will press for a short jail
sentence.
- Where the defaulter has reached an age when he cannot serve his
full-time NS in a combat vocation or fulfil his operationally ready
NS obligations in full, a longer jail sentence to reflect the
period of NS he has evaded may be appropriate.
- Where the defaulter has reached an age when he cannot be called
up for NS at all, a jail sentence up to the maximum of three years
may be appropriate.
Each year, a small number of people are convicted for their failure to enlist or refusal to serve in the military. Most of them are Jehovah's Witnesses, who are usually court-martialled and sentenced to three years of imprisonment, although they are usually held in a low security detention facility and separated from other military offenders. The government doesn't consider Conscientious objection to be a legal reason for refusal to serve NS. Since 1972, Jehovah's Witnesses as a religious group have been banned from Singapore
Source Extract from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Service_in_SingaporeEdited by eac 13 Jun `08, 12:48AM - Where the default period exceeds two years but the defaulter is
young enough to serve his full-time and operationally ready NS
duties in full, MINDEF will press for a short jail
sentence.
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Originally posted by WoBuPaNi:
i dun think they go to jail.. its a religion i think cos i heard there are these kind of people around in db serving as cooks and doing laundry..
I dont think JW NS mens will be harshly treated,but instead do some work in the DB.Because i think if its de facto jail,wouldnt it count as outright discrimination?
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Originally posted by Arapahoe:
i recalled during my first 3 months in SAF. i saw 2 guys train with wooden rifle. I am not sure if they were later send to DB. I think technically if they can get themselve into unfit duty to fire rifle. They might be able to get away.
Chances are that those 2 guys you saw are 7th day adventists.They do not bear arms but they still recognize the state flag and willing to pledge allegiance.
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Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:
the issue is not them being pacifists. the issue is they not willing to salute the flag, say the pledge, or sing the national anthem.
Like that also offence meh? Just go to any schools nowadays and see how many students actually say the pledge or sing the national anthem during morning flag raising parade.Why should JW be considered as a illegal religion in singapore just because of their beliefs in not holding arms and pledging allegiance to Singapore (not as if we are a dictator-ruled country)? Where is the 'one united people, regardless of race, language or religion, to build a democratic society based on justice and equality so as to achieve happiness, prosperity and progress for our nation.'?
What about Jenovahans who are actually willing to serve NS? Like some have already mentioned here, those who declared themselves JW even after they have already been enlisted (and thus starting to serve NS) is apparently still headed towards DB...this is ridiculous!
Edited by annoy-you-must 14 Jun `08, 8:18PM
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pls don't condemn JWs.. some really bo pian nedd to serve that 3 years. they don't go home for that 3 years.. unless got something sad happened..
they are housed in DB and cook, wash laundry and grow some plants here and there. their "imprisonment" is just they are allowed to roam freely within a part of DB. they can do anything basically..except leaving the compound. and they don't leave in cells, or in the DB building, or mix with the inmates. and, the people are multi-racial..got a lot chinese
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