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Just wanted to ask whether a NSF man can leave his house during MC ? I was told that only medical appointments are allowed. In the case of having no food at home during meal times, still have to call company line to inform them. Different people tell me different things about whether i can go out on sunday. Some say can, some say cannot, even the OC and CSM sound quite unsure. I read the SAF ACT a few times already, didn't spot anything regarding personal on MC.
Not that i want to go out and play but i just feel like a prisoner being so restricted. lol.
Edited by kane213 08 Aug `08, 4:53PM
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u still don't get the idea, do u?
u can do anything, but just don't get caught.
buy food at downstairs coffeeshop, no need to inform 1 lah...
but if u go arcade/cinema/shopping centre/clubbing, then open ur eyes wider loh...
divert ur home calls to ur handphone, then if place is noisy, go to a quiet place lah... they dun bother to send someone to spotcheck u 1 lah...Edited by Rednano 08 Aug `08, 4:51PM
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Originally posted by kane213:
Just wanted to ask whether a NSF man can leave his house during MC ? I was told that only medical appointments are allowed. In the case of having no food at home during meal times, still have to call company line to inform them. Different people tell me different things about whether i can go out on sunday. Some say can, some say cannot, even the OC and CSM sound quite unsure. I read the SAF ACT a few times already, didn't spot anything regarding personal on MC.
Not that i want to go out and play but i just feel like a prisoner being so restricted. lol.
read saf act for what? the proper place to go read is the GOMs, directives, and memos on the mindef intranet...Edited by Rednano 08 Aug `08, 4:54PM
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if your MC spread over a weekend, i think can go out, cos nobody would catch you on weekends, at least this is what i think. I doubt anybody would go out when they are really sick.
if you are a nice person, ie nv piss ppl off or keng in coy, i tink should be safe lah, haha. my coy got send officer to spot check on one fellow during his attn C period, he is the chao keng type during training...
buy food should be can, but for other activities, do at your own risk. If your MC/attn C is for reasons like recovery after surgeries, provided your going out doesn't worsen the injury, logically should be fine. Eg, a knee surgery shouldn't hinder my watching of a movie with friends, but if i kena accident during the outing, then i accept that it's my fault.
Something along this line....
Edited by kajagugu 08 Aug `08, 6:05PM
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Since your CSM and OC also say unsure liao, means they wont check la, so why you still scared? LOL.
There are no black and white when it comes to this but I know you are supposed to stay at home when on MC, especially on weekdays. If one or two day and you take MC like once every 3 months, should be no prob, dont think ppl will check. But if you always take MC, or in camp been caught many times for doing stuffs probably or if superior blackmark you, then they will check.
Sometimes the DO on duty too garang, will find out the names of all those on MC that day and check.
Weekend-wise, I think its a grey area. Cos weekend is your off, so you can still argue that you felt a little better and went out with family for awhile that kind.
Depends.
My advice is, take MC only when you are sick. And when you are sick, you wont want to go out. Otherwise, dont chao keng. I have people in my unit taking MC every month without fail. So you can guess what a hard time he had when he really falls sick.
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haha. I took a lot of MC but because i injuried. 4months in army, i think i only been in camp for a month.lol . haha.
Come to think of it, whats the point of them calling you while you are on MC when there is divert call. It doesn't mean anything even if you didn't pick up the phone, it doesn't mean anything if you don't open the door when they go to your doorstep, you can be in the toilet or sleeping. lol.
But i think i am sticking at home :P . Too tired to go out.
Edited by kane213 08 Aug `08, 9:35PM
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when i was admin staff for 3 months at OETI, the DO always ask me to call those on MCs to check if they are at home everyday. if no one answer, we are asked to call handphones or call later.
so if you report sick in the morning, we are asked to call you at 10 to see your status and then at 2 or 3 pm call you again at your house to see if you are home. if your MC is long term like 1 week, we are ordered to call you everyday without fail at different allocated time... damn garang...
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The only time when ppl bother to check is where there is mass ATTC, or that u are heavily suspected of manlingering. I am not sure abt the GOM, but i am certain that go down buy food still ok ... and, yes, be clever about it ... dun call u say u at home but background noise is pins dropping or whatever ...
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Originally posted by gd4u:
The only time when ppl bother to check is where there is mass ATTC, or that u are heavily suspected of manlingering. I am not sure abt the GOM, but i am certain that go down buy food still ok ... and, yes, be clever about it ... dun call u say u at home but background noise is pins dropping or whatever ...
thats y go toliet then answer, or a rather quiet place...tip: camp calls out r sort of a randomised number, as in Mindef bought a set from telco. that means when u call back the number, it will still get thru but no one answers...
Edited by Rednano 11 Aug `08, 10:08PM
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Originally posted by Rednano:
thats y go toliet then answer, or a rather quiet place...tip: camp calls out r sort of a randomised number, as in Mindef bought a set from telco. that means when u call back the number, it will still get thru but no one answers...
not random. is a hunting line. when u call back, most of the time will lead to guard room. tried before for some camps when they called my handphone. when no one answer, means no one at the desk.
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Originally posted by vitasoys:
ever heard of att c due to leg injury + drug allergy kanna force to outfield and nt allow to see MO until the 3rd day when his parents called mindef and brought issue to div commander.it happens.cant reveal much later kana charge.
tell the story lah... keep pple in suspense... no good.will not charge 1 one... say say only... cannot anyhow charge 1...
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Originally posted by vitasoys:
ever heard of att c due to leg injury + drug allergy kanna force to outfield and nt allow to see MO until the 3rd day when his parents called mindef and brought issue to div commander.it happens.cant reveal much later kana charge.
wah. zhun bo? the superior of that att c personnel arsehole after that sure very big la!
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