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Juz another MLM company that claims its magnetic beds cure you of this symptom and that illness. And even offer pills/medicine that cures acne. Apparently, most of it people are rather young, probably most of them in their early twenties. They even showed me a presentation of their so and so achievements together with ISO cert and they also say NUS got back it up somemore.
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Originally posted by GrimR:Juz another MLM company that claims its magnetic beds cure you of this symptom and that illness. And even offer pills/medicine that cures acne. Apparently, most of it people are rather young, probably most of them in their early twenties. They even showed me a presentation of their so and so achievements together with ISO cert and they also say NUS got back it up somemore.
Have they heard of my wonderful fist?

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for those who are flaming "RUN" pls answer the following qns
Have u been working in EnYouth before?
If not, how can u defind them as scammers? Is it becoz ur fren say so? Den did ur fren work in ENY before? Or they fren told dem?
If u did work in ENY, wat position did you held? How many days have you been to company? How did the company scam people? They didnt pay you? They receive money but never give goods to customer?
The products are certified by NUS report to be true. The system accquired ISO 9001: 2000. The company is protected by DSAS, Direct Selling Association of Singapore (awarded by government). How is this scam?
If you guys think mlm (and btw if u include ENY in mlm, tat means you don even understand how things work as ENY is a SLM, single- level marketing company) is immoral, have u guys realised that all of us are doing mlm everyday? You watch a movie, tell ur frenz its nice, ask them go watch, izit tat network marketing? In ENY, you try a product (which is 100% optional), and if its good, u tell ur relatives and frenz its good, buy or not is another matter.
If you discredit the questionablity of the product, may i ask are you a certified doctor or a scientist? Wat makes you so sure that the product is fake or out to con others? You used it? isit from ENY or other companies? If not, pls mind your words and stop acting like Mr-Know-Everything to discredit others
Flaming is easy on the net, you don't have to be responsible for your words but as i believe people here are educated and responsible, i wish to express my plead for the stop on these unfounded discrediting.
Any futhers queries can be addressed to me, will be willing to help out.
Last but not least, in everythin we do, there are people who make it, there are people who don't. In exams, people get A's and people get Fails. If you wan to get a A, you would obviously ask those people who got A's and how did they did it? Would an idiot go ask a failure? Same case there, no doubts there are people who don't make it, they failed only because they either give up or didnt put in efforts. Thus, they began enjoying defaming the company for scamming and such. Lets face it, man always put the blame on surrounding and never reflect on what they did. No efforts = no gain, isn't that right?
Stop feeling skeptical and negative about ENY or networking as even the government is promoting it now. The world still turns without you. u can stand there 20years not turning with the world, come out of it to realise it changed alot without ur knowing. Anyway, juz giving an advice as defamation is against the law of tort in singapore. Your future is urs, nothin to do with me ^^
GL HF!Edited by dranoel 01 May `05, 2:20PM
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aiya 4get add tis as well:
those ceremonies aren't there for show-offs, you guys give me the conception of sour grapes anyway. Those prize giving are to encourage those in ENY to strive for the better and as a way or rewarding them if they do exceptionally well.
At home when you are young do ur parents give u a reward in order to make u strive for better? In school do they give you vouchers and etc if you do well in exams? If yes y dont you say they are showing off as well? This is known as the positive reinforcement theory in pyschology (as again, pick up a pys book and find wat is it if u wanna noe more).
Thanks for reading and sorry for long post ^^
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Originally posted by dranoel:and Oh ya, i 4get to reply to the question y it changed from AStral Mag to Enyouth Singapore.
The true reason behind the name change is branding. If you have no idea what the hell branding is, juz pick up any marketing book, turn to the index and locate branding.Then can you explain why branding in Astral Mag is not good enough?
Tell me more & not just state the above.... since u r mentioning on BRANDING?
Isn't ASTRAL MAG HOLDINGS PTE LTD a big name enough to create branding especially it's a HOLDING company?
& since you ask how long did these people join... what about you?
& do u noe how many of us have joined for years and left?
Some even KNOW UR BOSSES PERSONALLY & wat's ur stand with him?
code:pls mind your words and stop acting like Mr-Know-Everything to discredit others
So what make u ONE too?
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Originally posted by dranoel:aiya 4get add tis as well:
those ceremonies aren't there for show-offs, you guys give me the conception of sour grapes anyway. Those prize giving are to encourage those in ENY to strive for the better and as a way or rewarding them if they do exceptionally well.
At home when you are young do ur parents give u a reward in order to make u strive for better? In school do they give you vouchers and etc if you do well in exams? If yes y dont you say they are showing off as well? This is known as the positive reinforcement theory in pyschology (as again, pick up a pys book and find wat is it if u wanna noe more).
Thanks for reading and sorry for long post ^^will strongly suggest that you go and attend all the companies locally and then observe fairly.. see the difference,etc,etc.. If u compare with Enyouth as the std, then.. u will see nothing.
u r still young & seen too many in ur age with the same attitude then in AMH. u r just walking in the same direction.
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i wun pretend to be an expert in terms of branding as i don proficient in marketing, tats y i ask u guys to read out of a book. But for as wat i noe, astral mag holdings isnt even a brand name, whereas enyouth singapore is.
therefore, i wun consider myself a Mr-Know-It all as there are things which i don't know.
If you claimed to have been working in astral mag for years, can i ask for how many years? Whats ur reason for leaving? Boss never pay u money? Or izit becoz a goup of you decided you all had learnt enough and went out to open your own networking company? erm...interesting uh?
Lastly, since when did I mention in all of my post that i was in the company? but anyway, yes i am, but not for a very long time. As such even a newcomer like be can understand the above stated facts, I believe you would do a better job of it.
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Originally posted by jojoma:will strongly suggest that you go and attend all the companies locally and then observe fairly.. see the difference,etc,etc.. If u compare with Enyouth as the std, then.. u will see nothing.
u r still young & seen too many in ur age with the same attitude then in AMH. u r just walking in the same direction.As alike, some parents give huge incentives, some school does, whereas others don't. I admit I'm still young but hopefully old enuff to know about what I'm doing. However, thanks for your advice.
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Originally posted by dranoel:i wun pretend to be an expert in terms of branding as i don proficient in marketing, tats y i ask u guys to read out of a book. But for as wat i noe, astral mag holdings isnt even a brand name, whereas enyouth singapore is.
therefore, i wun consider myself a Mr-Know-It all as there are things which i don't know.
If you claimed to have been working in astral mag for years, can i ask for how many years? Whats ur reason for leaving? Boss never pay u money? Or izit becoz a goup of you decided you all had learnt enough and went out to open your own networking company? erm...interesting uh?
Lastly, since when did I mention in all of my post that i was in the company? but anyway, yes i am, but not for a very long time. As such even a newcomer like be can understand the above stated facts, I believe you would do a better job of it.Do u have the mindset of just a businessman or do just want to earn money starting a company or do you have the wide vision to expand not just within Singapore or do you have the responsibilities for those who join you in a long run...etc,etc....
if starting one bcos u hv learnt enough in AMH, then u r out to fail as what u learnt in AMH & Enyouth is only so little compare to the world out there. It's easy to start a company in any industry, to maintain and expand locally or internationally is totally another field and mentality.
It is becos you are new, you see the company as perfect. Only those who stay long understood what really happened.
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hi
dranoel, if you only there for a while, then how much you know abt
AMH? Do you mean you are smarter than Ng Kim Leng, Lim Boon Hong
and group and all the early pioneer of AM marketing? Maybe i am
very junior in this trade, it will be great if you can enlighten me
what you know abt NETWORK MARKETING and AMH/ENYOUTH.

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thanks jojoma for ur advice sincerely. perhaps im still new. However, never try, never noe right? Life is bound to have failures, only after failures will we den can taste success isnt tat right?
The reason why i join ENY is becoz I wan to learn, im taking a bit dip presently and I find watever i learn in ENY is interesting and related to my course of study. No doubts i have dreams of earning big bucks, to start my own business. But presently im still fairly contented with what im getting.
But sincerely, thanks coz i felt your care ^^
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Originally posted by bestbuddies:
hi
dranoel, if you only there for a while, then how much you know abt
AMH? Do you mean you are smarter than Ng Kim Leng, Lim Boon Hong
and group and all the early pioneer of AM marketing? Maybe i am
very junior in this trade, it will be great if you can enlighten me
what you know abt NETWORK MARKETING and AMH/ENYOUTH.

how much i noe abt AMH... erm not alot i guess. I was in AMH 1yr+ ago when it was at eunos, left, and joined recently. Obviously i wun claim to be smarter than those mentioned, neither claim to be more stupid as I don noe them personally. Regarding enlightening, I dont feel like Im in such a position to but however, I would be willing to share my experiences for Networking as well as ENY if you are interested ^^
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Originally posted by dranoel:how much i noe abt AMH... erm not alot i guess. I was in AMH 1yr+ ago when it was at eunos, left, and joined recently. Obviously i wun claim to be smarter than those mentioned, neither claim to be more stupid as I don noe them personally. Regarding enlightening, I dont feel like Im in such a position to but however, I would be willing to share my experiences for Networking as well as ENY if you are interested ^^
Hello dranoel !
In year 2003 Ng Kim Leng left AMH to Nuskin and some Car Achiever SDM also left AMH .
Year 2004 Lim Boon Hong and his elite team SDM also left AMH .
Total more that 10 over SDM left these 2 year.
dranoel ,, who yr SDM current in enyouth now ??
Will they leave enyouth ??
or when u hit yr SDM , will u leave ?
If all the top guys last time at AMH left , wat u think wat make them leave ?
The company Product ?? if product no good , how can they hit their car & SDM ?
The System payout very bad ?? if so , how can they drive BMW and Merc ??
then wat will be the reason behind ??
ALL those SDM problem or the CEO of AMH / enyouth problem???
PLS USE YR WISDOM TO THINK
AMH name if bad already , so they change it and name it enyouth .
the problem is not lie in the company name , change or dont change !
the problem lie in the company management
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i am curious…and interested…so is enyouth a good company or not? is it safe to work for enyouth? i never been into MLM b4 and was recommended by a friend….came here to did some investigation and research…. would someone kindly please give advice of the PRos and cons here? or someone working inside tell me do we need to purchase the product and sell them or juz help by selling products without purchasing them?
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