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  • Nikonman's Avatar
    65 posts since Nov '06
    • Lots of babes to be known. They are the 1st and only known MLM to sponsor a mainstream Miss Singapore pageant. Impressive man Razz None of the others MLM companies can boast to be a major sponsor of Miss Singapore and can appoint Miss Singapore to be its spokesperson eventually. Very innovative ways of marketing.

      hehe...take a look at their own Miss/Mrs LFI pageant.

      http://www.lfi.com.sg/new_lfipageant07_finals.htm

      Quote from website:
      The Winners to vie for the top spot to represent LFI at Miss/Mrs Singapore World 2007 during our 1st Anniversary Gala Dinner at Grand Copthorne Waterfront Hotel on 10th June 2007.

      I wanna go go Razz but dont wanna buy the products or tickets can ma?

      Nowadays, MLM companies are going out of the box. Looking at innovative ways to recruit and broadcast and sell their products. Imagine having a pageant and make every contestants say how good the company is and how good their products have made them look ultra beautiful....clear their bowels...clear toxins....

      Kudos....its very innovative Razz

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    166,101 posts since Dec '99
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    laurence82's Avatar
    90,122 posts since Nov '03
    • can post under same topic?

      coz too many topics to hard to track

      stupid mod no do job

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  • August Band - Sunshine
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    90,122 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by FireIce:
      where got similar topic on MLM holding xuan mei sai?

      same company name, u toopid dumb dumb

      but no leh, LFI shouldnt be the first MLM company to do so

      many years ago when i popped into Elken to look see look see, they already had one

      maybe other companies had it earlier, but LFI definitely not the first

  • Nikonman's Avatar
    65 posts since Nov '06
    • Originally posted by FireIce:
      so tts where the money go to.

      Fire Ice hit the jackpot Smile

      There are a few issues that can be discussed arising from the fact that a MLM company is using/funding pageants as a form of marketing/advertisement .

      * Role of Corporate Governance/ funding for pageants
      Major pageants often cost anything from $50k-$250k to run. Hence there is always a need to source for sponsorship:

      - Cash Prizes for winners
      - Vouchers/prizes in kind for contestants
      - Gown sponsors
      - Makeup/hair sponsors
      - Venue sponsors
      - Choreographer/ fashion stylist
      - Grooming/catwalk trainer
      - MC, sound, lights, stage sponsors

      If sponsorships for the above mentioned are not possible. The the organise would have to risk running it at a loss which can be a substantial amount. However, the following can be done to offset some of the costing.

      - Tickets for preview/pre-final shows
      - Tickets for actual finals
      - Rental of gowns
      - Paid makeup/hair services
      - SMS voting
      - Print brochure and sell advertisements

      However, its still a very risky business as only a minority of pageants ever break even, with most making loss/huge loss. Some of these losses contribute to the non-payment of prize money to winners, contractors etc which makes it a even worst marketing exercise for all involved.

      Hence as a MLM company, there should be adequate cost benefit analysis/ cost effective analysis done to fund and start such pageants. As a majority of the funds in any MLM comes from investors and other stakeholders, funds should only be used if there is a contingency plan in place to minimise any loss sustained.

      Corporate governance plays a part in minimising unnecessary risk to the company funds which can be used in other lower risks ventures. Proper accountability will ensure that loss is kept at a minimum and every action properly monitored and accountable by the committee in charge.

  • MamaRos's Avatar
    179 posts since Apr '07
    • Shocked Shocked Shocked

      The winners to represent Singapore at the Miss/Mrs Singapore World Pageant? Alamak! Most of the contestants look like Ah Lians and HDB kopi tiam aunties!!!!

      Is this for real? I thought international beauty pageants go for looks AND brains. Okay the company can do the external makeover but does the company provide the contestants with intellect? Obviously not..........

  • junkieyuri's Avatar
    85 posts since Jan '07
    • Originally posted by MamaRos:
      Shocked Shocked Shocked

      The winners to represent Singapore at the Miss/Mrs Singapore World Pageant? Alamak! Most of the contestants look like Ah Lians and HDB kopi tiam aunties!!!!

      Is this for real? I thought international beauty pageants go for looks AND brains. Okay the company can do the external makeover but does the company provide the contestants with intellect? Obviously not..........

      You got your facts wrong. The best performing contestants get to go directly into the finals of Miss/ Mrs World (S'pore), not represent Singapore immediately. Only when they do win this contest, will they represent Singapore on the world stage in Moscow if I'm not wrong.

      Why do you want to criticize those contestants? The overwhelming majority of them are not in MLM, so even if you have something against LFI or MLM in general your ah lian & coffeeshop auntie comment is extremely uncalled for. WHat if that was your girlfriend or mother taking part & someone else were to give your loved ones that label?

      Were you even there in the first place???

      Let us be a little bit more sensitive & objective in our comments for a start.

  • Rock^Star's Avatar
    3,883 posts since Jul '05
  • ya_rite's Avatar
    34 posts since Jun '07
    • The contest is cmi 1 full of auntie turn ppl off buy product go there see auntie LL boast sells only KNS. At east find chio 1 ma so wasted >_>

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    90,122 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by junkieyuri:
      You got your facts wrong. The best performing contestants get to go directly into the finals of Miss/ Mrs World (S'pore), not represent Singapore immediately. Only when they do win this contest, will they represent Singapore on the world stage in Moscow if I'm not wrong.

      Why do you want to criticize those contestants? The overwhelming majority of them are not in MLM, so even if you have something against LFI or MLM in general your ah lian & coffeeshop auntie comment is extremely uncalled for. WHat if that was your girlfriend or mother taking part & someone else were to give your loved ones that label?

      Were you even there in the first place???

      Let us be a little bit more sensitive & objective in our comments for a start.

      u sure this contest is one of the qualifying rounds for Miss World Singapore?

      Shocked Shocked Shocked

  • Eiizumi's Avatar
    1,143 posts since Jan '03
    • Originally posted by Rock^Star:
      I only know Long Fa Seafood Restaurant at Sunset Way....... Rolling Eyes

      Tot its Zheng Fa?

  • junkieyuri's Avatar
    85 posts since Jan '07
    • Originally posted by Eiizumi:
      Tot its Zheng Fa?

      Is that the seafood restaurant where they show the tv commercial & say their lobsters are bigger than a little girl??? Personally I find eating such a large lobster to be a bit scary. Maybe i watched too many horror movies liao, then I imagine while dining in that restaurant, all the humongous lobsters break free from their tanks & start attack the patrons. Hahahah.

  • Nikonman's Avatar
    65 posts since Nov '06
    • Originally posted by laurence82:
      u sure this contest is one of the qualifying rounds for Miss World Singapore?

      Shocked Shocked Shocked

      Yup it was mentioned very clearly by the MC throughout the semi finals at Gotham Penthouse and printed very clearly at the website

      http://www.lfi.com.sg/new_lfipageant07_finals.htm

      Was very shocked by this revelation too. One can only assume that they are a major sponsor for the pageant. Anyone from the company can verify it? Must have cost a bomb to sponsor such a prestigious mainstream pageant.

  • August Band - Sunshine
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    90,122 posts since Nov '03
    • Originally posted by Nikonman:
      Yup it was mentioned very clearly by the MC throughout the semi finals at Gotham Penthouse and printed very clearly at the website

      http://www.lfi.com.sg/new_lfipageant07_finals.htm

      Was very shocked by this revelation too. One can only assume that they are a major sponsor for the pageant. Anyone from the company can verify it? Must have cost a bomb to sponsor such a prestigious mainstream pageant.

      err, two questions

      is there anywhere on the Miss/Mrs Singapore World website or media that says the contestants are sent by or represented companies and not individual contestants?

      its my first time i heard contestants are being pushed through this way, besides, issit Miss World Singapore, or Miss and Mrs World Singapore, or Miss or Mrs World Singapore? kinda confusing which of these contests really are, because i know Mrs and Miss World are held separately

      secondly, why would this revelation lead you to assume they are a major sponsor?

  • KrU's Avatar
    3,816 posts since Jun '03
    • Pui it’s all just a scam of cheating people money. Singapore should really ban all these companies to save her own citizens.

      Edited by KrU 09 Jun `07, 6:15AM
  • thousandisland's Avatar
    445 posts since Dec '05
    • you dont know how potent their sales talk can be. my friend just went for one sesssion at their hq and was appparently brainwashed.

  • MOC's Avatar
    26 posts since Jun '07
    • Originally posted by laurence82:
      err, two questions

      is there anywhere on the Miss/Mrs Singapore World website or media that says the contestants are sent by or represented companies and not individual contestants?

      its my first time i heard contestants are being pushed through this way, besides, issit Miss World Singapore, or Miss and Mrs World Singapore, or Miss or Mrs World Singapore? kinda confusing which of these contests really are, because i know Mrs and Miss World are held separately

      secondly, why would this revelation lead you to assume they are a major sponsor?

      1. There are total of 14 contestants in the finals for Miss and Mrs World Singapore. 2 of the slots in the Finals come from the Winners of Miss and Mrs Lfi Pageant.
      the judges in the Lfi contest are the judges from Miss and Mrs World Singapore. So the standards of the Lfi pageant matches the one for Miss and Mrs world Singapore.

      2. Yes the company is sponsoring the Miss and Mrs world Singapore. That why the judges come to work with the company competition.

  • junkieyuri's Avatar
    85 posts since Jan '07
    • Originally posted by thousandisland:
      you dont know how potent their sales talk can be. my friend just went for one sesssion at their hq and was appparently brainwashed.

      There are two sides to every coin. Yes, LFI do have plenty of extremely good presenters. They are so freaking passionate, knowledgable & some of the are quite frankly extremely charismatic. I personally know a few of them. So it is no wonder that all people need is to come down once to be convinced, or in your own words "brainwashed". In my opinion, only people with no opinion of their owns or weak willed can be brainwashed. Birds of the same feather flock together too.

      The other side of the coin is this. Your friend came down. He / She saw what the products are all about, what they can do, how they can help people, how HUGE the market for these products is, & also saw the potential of the MLM industry, the potential of the company, etc. They saw AN opportunity. They grabbed it.

      So which is the case? Do you dare to find out for ourself, no strings attached?

      Anyway, seriously, I think brainwashing is not a very nice word to use, irregardless of the context. We follow our parents religion without really understanding what are the teachings, is this brainwashing? We usually accept close friend's suggestions, isn't this also brainwashing? Especially when a friend makes a bad recommendation & yet we do not "sever ties" or "get back at them". We just let it go like water rolling off a duck's back.

      Cheers!!!

  • MOC's Avatar
    26 posts since Jun '07
    • Originally posted by KrU:
      Pui it's all just a scam of cheating people money. Singapore should really ban all these companies to save her own citizens.

      Emotional comments are usually factless as 1. u have no clue whats going on 2. lack of evidence to prove that u said.

      only result in misleading information to others who can learn from it maturely.

  • KrU's Avatar
    3,816 posts since Jun '03
    • Originally posted by MOC:
      Emotional comments are usually factless as 1. u have no clue whats going on 2. lack of evidence to prove that u said.

      only result in misleading information to others who can learn from it maturely.

      Ha it will be too late for those who believe in those fancy dreams that you people make.

  • MOC's Avatar
    26 posts since Jun '07
    • Originally posted by KrU:
      Ha it will be too late for those who believe in those fancy dreams that you people make.

      is it a dream that we make pple believe it? or we are stating the fact that u can achieve ur dreams with ur own abilities and with a good system. the normal content of dreams are those luxuaries. those are achieveable when u work all of ur life saving ur money and going through the ladders of coporate world. ALOT of pple don't ACHIEVE that because u just lack of the education and system to get there. u can only blame yourself if u can't achieve ur own goal. don't u really wonder who are the cause of who u are to this day? "pointing to yourself" so start having the maturity to explore .. not sleeping on ur own pillow forever .

  • KrU's Avatar
    3,816 posts since Jun '03
    • Originally posted by MOC:
      is it a dream that we make pple believe it? or we are stating the fact that u can achieve ur dreams with ur own abilities and with a good system. the normal content of dreams are those luxuaries. those are achieveable when u work all of ur life saving ur money and going through the ladders of coporate world. ALOT of pple don't ACHIEVE that because u just lack of the education and system to get there. u can only blame yourself if u can't achieve ur own goal. don't u really wonder who are the cause of who u are to this day? "pointing to yourself" so start having the maturity to explore .. not sleeping on ur own pillow forever .

      Yah you can say whatever you want. I also can say my piece. For me, it is just plain cheating. Enough said.

  • Nikonman's Avatar
    65 posts since Nov '06
    • Originally posted by MOC:
      1. There are total of 14 contestants in the finals for Miss and Mrs World Singapore. 2 of the slots in the Finals come from the Winners of Miss and Mrs Lfi Pageant.
      the judges in the Lfi contest are the judges from Miss and Mrs World Singapore. So the standards of the Lfi pageant matches the one for Miss and Mrs world Singapore.

      2. Yes the company is sponsoring the Miss and Mrs world Singapore. That why the judges come to work with the company competition.

      Its normal for sponsors to make special arrangements if a lot of money is used for sponsorship. In this case, 2 of the winners will represent the company in the major pageant that the company is sponsoring.

      Is the selection criteria the same for Miss LFI and Miss Singapore World? What happens if the winners does not fit the criteria of Miss Singapore? take for example, too old. Another representative will take her place? Or the winner will continue on to represent the company but can never win the pageant?

      Will the company have representative in the panel of judges for Miss LFI? What's the proportion in the panel from the organisers of Miss Singapore?

      Will the company be judging Miss World finals later on? So can protect the interests since already spend so much money on sponsorship?

      What will the public perception and comments be like for the company to appoint representatives into a mainstream pageant finals directly. Contestants representing the company instead of individual?

      Is this a good use of company funds? What are the returns generated from this exercise? Did a Cost Benefit Analysis/ Cost effectiveness Analysis? Feasibility studies?

  • 1x2x3's Avatar
    118 posts since Sep '06
    • Originally posted by Nikonman:
      Lots of babes to be known. They are the 1st and only known MLM to sponsor a mainstream Miss Singapore pageant. Impressive man Razz None of the others MLM companies can boast to be a major sponsor of Miss Singapore and can appoint Miss Singapore to be its spokesperson eventually. Very innovative ways of marketing.

      hehe...take a look at their own Miss/Mrs LFI pageant.

      http://www.lfi.com.sg/new_lfipageant07_finals.htm

      Quote from website:
      The Winners to vie for the top spot to represent LFI at Miss/Mrs Singapore World 2007 during our 1st Anniversary Gala Dinner at Grand Copthorne Waterfront Hotel on 10th June 2007.

      I wanna go go Razz but dont wanna buy the products or tickets can ma?

      Nowadays, MLM companies are going out of the box. Looking at innovative ways to recruit and broadcast and sell their products. Imagine having a pageant and make every contestants say how good the company is and how good their products have made them look ultra beautiful....clear their bowels...clear toxins....

      Kudos....its very innovative Razz

      huh.. that interesting... Does LFI send a signal that if u shit a lot u will be beautifully???

      dont shit regularly will not be beautifully??

      Shocked Shocked

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