Repost: Sunshine Empire
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So who heads SE?Originally posted by Agenda:Correct me if I'm wrong. JP is does not own SE directly. Hence, he even if he wins the award. It's not of SE business. Is this just a scam to reassure those fools inside their company?
He'll get his retribution -
the funny thing is no mention of him winning the award.
Between withdraw what u can.
My friend already scam enough people to get her money back.
Hope she wake up her idea and not get retribution. -
The "About Us", which i mean SunshineEmpire, in depth details can be found here.
http://www.sunshine-empire-holdings.com/aboutus.php -
Eh, I saw this.
http://www.gboforum.com/images/GBOF07_English_Calendar_of_Events.pdf
No such awards as explained leh. Strange hor? -
award thing is mention in http://www.sunshine-empire-holdings.com/blog/Originally posted by Game1980:the funny thing is no mention of him winning the award.
Between withdraw what u can.
My friend already scam enough people to get her money back.
Hope she wake up her idea and not get retribution. -
i wonder if it can be verified elsewhere?Originally posted by AlessandroTan:award thing is mention in http://www.sunshine-empire-holdings.com/blog/ -
1. PM Lee is only there for opening ceremony, not prize giving and nothing to do with the awardees.
2. This is a bluff, posted by their own SE supporter to divert attention from recently scam publicity.
3. The organiser for the awards are just small private association and if you "donate" $$$$ , you got your awards. -
My sentiments exactly.. LOL
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walauOriginally posted by enquiries:1. PM Lee is only there for opening ceremony, not prize giving and nothing to do with the awardees.
2. This is a bluff, posted by their own SE supporter to divert attention from recently scam publicity.
3. The organiser for the awards are just small private association and if you "donate" $$$$ , you got your awards.
their reputation down the sink liao, still worsen it ah
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someone pls post on stomp forum, HWZ, ohgenkiOriginally posted by laurence82:walau
their reputation down the sink liao, still worsen it ah -
It's really sad man. i have 2 frens inside this company. Both are smart, but they don even know they had been scammed.
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Lets see how long our so called "scam" can last lo.
So almighty forum god laurence, what do you think?
2 months? half a year?
you have been wrong with every past prediction though,
But persistance is the key to success, keep predicting,
Quick predict one dateline for the downfall of SE
And yes place ur bets, any one open table for odds.
just joking anyway, do not get offended (you often do though)
Most people here have valid points againts SE, but than again, if you could make time instead of rotting in front of the moniter. and go look at documents and presentations, perhaps you may have a better view of what SE is really doing,
As most againts SE have not even heard a presentation from a BRM(its a high manager rank) perhaps just from ignorant agents just sprouting nonsense, The managers will have the most updated documents and proof to solve your every question,
One more thing, Every MLM company has a pool EG 10% that they distribute to their agents who either hit certain quota or sales target or have hit a centain incentive in the past,
You have to realise that even insurance company, property agencies and what have you agencies do have a percentage of pool that is shared by certain people who have hit certain incentives or criterias,
As SE also has a criteria for the agents.
If hit like $600 can qualify for 5%
and $3500 qualify for 8%
and $12000 for 10%
this money is not for nothing, there are services and products that can be used, EG Emcall callback service and emall products like PSP nokia birdnest louis vuitton Laptops ETC put up by certain merchants, (i dare say my agents are pretty happy with the products and services that they have) There are much more services like merchants can put products on our E-Mall ETC
moreever they have a limit to how much of these incentives you can hit. like EG for $12000 only up till $19200
But some companies promise "FOR LIFE" <-- Doesn't it sound more scam
So its pretty simple, sorry for the long post, thanks for reading pardon me for some nonsensical posts that i have posted, i had to join the gang of some of the nonsensical posters too. LOL
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Putting words into people's mouth won't do you any good. Crying wolf doesn't make you a swan either. Why all these rheoteric talk from SE agents, all these 'noises' when not one, but two Governments, have moved SE to the blacklist?
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Does not answer the questions why SE agents are unable to prove their income, whey they got into MAS and MSC Investor Alert List, why the TNP reported that there were no water park projects in Malaysia so on and so forth
When I ask what you are eating lunch, why will I care what you predict that you will be eating for dinner or that you are on and on praising that plate of hokkien mee?
Does not make an logical sense
Pls answer directly to the issues -
How come they still dare to call the project MAGIC KINGDOM??
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I am not anti SE but there are certain thing I do not understand which perhaps you can answer. I posted earlier and cry for help on behalf of my friend. I receive none. Perhaps you can.Originally posted by christopher_rf:Lets see how long our so called "scam" can last lo.
So almighty forum god laurence, what do you think?
2 months? half a year?
you have been wrong with every past prediction though,
But persistance is the key to success, keep predicting,
Quick predict one dateline for the downfall of SE
And yes place ur bets, any one open table for odds.
just joking anyway, do not get offended (you often do though)
Most people here have valid points againts SE, but than again, if you could make time instead of rotting in front of the moniter. and go look at documents and presentations, perhaps you may have a better view of what SE is really doing,
As most againts SE have not even heard a presentation from a BRM(its a high manager rank) perhaps just from ignorant agents just sprouting nonsense, The managers will have the most updated documents and proof to solve your every question,
One more thing, Every MLM company has a pool EG 10% that they distribute to their agents who either hit certain quota or sales target or have hit a centain incentive in the past,
You have to realise that even insurance company, property agencies and what have you agencies do have a percentage of pool that is shared by certain people who have hit certain incentives or criterias,
As SE also has a criteria for the agents.
If hit like $600 can qualify for 5%
and $3500 qualify for 8%
and $12000 for 10%
this money is not for nothing, there are services and products that can be used, EG Emcall callback service and emall products like PSP nokia birdnest louis vuitton Laptops ETC put up by certain merchants, (i dare say my agents are pretty happy with the products and services that they have) There are much more services like merchants can put products on our E-Mall ETC
moreever they have a limit to how much of these incentives you can hit. like EG for $12000 only up till $19200
But some companies promise "FOR LIFE" <-- Doesn't it sound more scam
So its pretty simple, sorry for the long post, thanks for reading pardon me for some nonsensical posts that i have posted, i had to join the gang of some of the nonsensical posters too. LOL
My friend's son ( 16 years old ) was " recuited " to join. He had wanted to go home to talk to his mother (my friend ) for money. The recuiters (3 of them ) encouraged and bring him to the nearest ATM to draw the money. When my friend found out, she asked for refund. SE claims that only Director can refund and that he is not free as he is flying around the world, very buzy. My friend insisted and asked for the receipt which was not issued when money was paid. They say receipt is not issued on the spot. At 2300 hrs, the girl asked my friend to go down to collect the receipt. My friend say she cannot just go down on the whim and call and it's already so late how to go down.. She asked to make appointment but SE just give her a Toa Payoh address and asked her to go down. She asked for time and they say they cannot give because they don't know when they are free. My friend say her time is precious as she have to work too. SE claims that theirs is MORE PRECIOUS as they make MILLIONS by the minutes.
Without receipt and all supporting documents, I advise her to give up instead of fighting against the crooks. Afterall they are already out to cheat. Just treat the $300+ as a lesson learnt. SE called again and asked her to go down. In order to get a refund, she must listen to a talk given by the Manager or Director. SO my friend say don't want to and willing to give up the fight. SE say thank you for the donation.... I mean they really got the cheek to say that... I am wonder and they bagger or what !!!
So you being a pro SE, please advise if the doing is right? If not, can SE arrange for a refund without giving additional stress to innocent people... If SE is so upright, why go on such a tactic. For your information, all the call were make to my friend after 2300 hrs.... Does SE know the people need to rest and sleep ??? -
i think the $300 is in the SE agent pocket.
$300 cant open any account, so i think the agent is gathering as much money as possible to help himself/herself to open an account.
no wonder the agent is diverting the refund question to director and company etc..
if i'm JP, i will kick the agent ass for diverting problem to me. i have enough shit to handle a national crisis! -
But then, not i support them or anything...... their company seemed to be doing good....
Big monies... big events.... big wealth for some people...
If it were a scam....I am sure they won't be actively doing big publicized events... like convention in expo.... and having offices around the region... etc...
So many there is some truth in them?.. just that they don't disclose it to the public....
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so mani smart alex! Go be politicians la.. knn dam kp le. esp laurence! 
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u berry der clever, u go be network marketing lecturer lor.Originally posted by mlmlover: so mani smart alex! Go be politicians la.. knn dam kp le. esp laurence! -
u guys jus don understand is it?Originally posted by mlmlover: so mani smart alex! Go be politicians la.. knn dam kp le. esp laurence!
why would we bother doing this? think we have so much time? i think only in future then u will understand -
aiyo, no one is ever going to believe another person's story without going through a personal experience of being scammed.
I went to their office (main entrance only) last week and wah... it looks nice, impressive with a large lion head..... so Singapura... so patriotic in the first place.... and i see soooo many aunties and uncles pouring around the place....
oh well, for all those who will get burned later, don't say there was not enough public notice.
and if at the end of it all, it turned out that all the investors made big bucks and we forumers lost out, tough luck to us pathetic complainers on the net then.... Good luck to all. -
my prediction will be max 35 months, the Malacca property suppose to be completed by then, so if cannot deliver, ciao~Originally posted by christopher_rf:Lets see how long our so called "scam" can last lo.
So almighty forum god laurence, what do you think?
2 months? half a year? -
lets see how they reply to ppl's personal experience of being scammed lor. instead they keep saying ppl like laurence but not addressing our concerns
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they never didOriginally posted by brokenluv:lets see how they reply to ppl's personal experience of being scammed lor. instead they keep saying ppl like laurence but not addressing our concerns
the only way to avoid the issue is to attack me personally