Hey guys, do you have any complaints which regards to any tatics or underhand methods used by any mlm companies' distributors in particular which displease you?

If there is kindly write it in here.

Below are some of the tricks which they have used before which I personally experienced.

1) Using a lunch/dinner meeting to bring/lie prospect into going to the company

2) Fake a normal job application and get prospect to come over company for job interview

3) Using sexy lady approach to attract guys into the company

4) Tele-marketing: Suprise call to strangers saying they have being head-hunted for a job interview

5) Road-survey asking for contacts along the way using ladies in office attire (usual tatic)

6) Suddenly catching up over long-lost friends and showing a sudden increase of wealth (showing off to friends) - trying to make them curious etc

7) Printing brochure/flyer and distributing it along the streets and notice board

8) Friend intro a "lobang" to friend which end up in a long brain-washing session

9) Prospect who's being brain-washed for more than 3hrs wanting to get out of the company end up signing/buying a product/contract (kana con)

10) Close Door - Let Dogs out to bark at prospects - Applies only to weak minded, clueless prospects that can be manipulated by sales distributors - Example: Despite being trapped inside company for hours, prospect didn't sign anything, the friend will always try to introduce new uplines who's even got stronger pay-cheques to try win over the prospect into signing

11) Get prospect to go for a seminar, and ask them to sign on a list of paper claiming it's a attendance sheet but only to call up after a week saying they have sign an agreement to the conditions in another separate sheet of document which wasn't declared/made known to you during the whole process.

Objective of this thread : It's not meant as a complaint session for me to help out but rather letting those newbies know what are the tricks/bullying methods that mlm companies use to force and pressure people into signing on the dotted line to walk the path of "No-Return" - only applies to naive people.

Try to refrain from posting the mlm company's name else this will turn into a individual company bombing discussion rather than a general discussion about the tatics/underhand methods used by various sales distributors.

You experience will be helpful in helping those newbies who might be reading up more information about MLM in particular.

Disclaimer: I'm not trying to fan any negative actions against any mlm company but rather trying to share what I know and help in some healthy discussion.

If you doubt me, simply go to search older threads and see the depth of my mlm knowledge plus see how I shoot down (penalized) those skeptical mlm people who go around gossiping try to act like a smart alex (when they didn't even went through mlm training) before attempting to even try  添油加醋/ flame negative emotions about any other mlm company .

My Own Stand: Although I support MLM, but I am super against/ANTI - MLM that support underhand tactics thus I decided to write this list to deter any more nonsense agents who think they can keep using the same old tricks to trick people.

Meet your DOOM!!

Lol

MLM is flawed system used by people who wants to cheat others of their money...

Anyone can say about there being black sheeps or white sheeps but to me it is a tool that is inevitably used by men for the sole objective of making money...

MLM is like a gun...it can be put to good use but either ways good or bad, it still inflicts damage..

One company i know is their ppl boast about being successful...yea and successful being hanging around a coffee shop...call that successful...

The company i know insulted my carrer dreams..Making it look as if we are starting our own business..Be your own boss...WOW...

Shitness la business...

A true businessman have full control of their product and business..A true businessman doesn't earn 5% commissions...they earn profits...

 Fresh MLM agents are brainwashed with the main idea of being successful..those who know how to think are well saved..those who dunno how to think properly will lose friends

MLM is a strategy used currently by majority of the middle income people to generate more income from those innocent, naive and clueless people.

The reason why not many people in corporate businesses are willing to integrate mlm into the business are because they can still generate lots of revenue without mlm itself. Nor do many people know exactly how to untilize thebenefits of mlm to the maximal potential as of yet from what I've exposed to to-date.

It's very common that companies boast about their success else how can they possibly attract more investors who just wants to make money work for them instead of them working for money right?

When people you feel insulted, don't worry, just take it into your stride, and move on, just don't let them know where have they done wrong and leave them to rot in the depths of hell and suffer a heavy consequences of declining creditability & reputation. Just wait for time to pass and stay in contact to see their despair.

The thing is true about doing business, but knowing and doing what you like in your own business is the only way whereby it can succeed. So unless you find your own way of marketing your worth, else you are just as good as nothing - zero because there's no point in keeping your business secrets without generating any revenue from it.

The point you said about 5% commissions VS profits are true but however when it comes to businesses, you need to take into consideration of over-heads (expenses) the running costs, advertising cost incurred etc, moreover do you mean gross profit, net profit, or after re-consilation with bank statements on other bank charges and cheques etc? When it comes to business, the idea is to truly understand the industry inside out, knowing your commpetitive advantage before going in for the kill - stripping off your business competitors ONE BY ONE!!

BUSINESS IS WAR!! ROAR!! - LOL

Fresh MLM agents just need proper guidance but unfortunatly, sad to say: All of the companies are already twisted and Money Focus already. It's even happening in the very company I'm still inside. With that I'll just find my own ways to market myself other than mlm.

I know what platform I'm gonna market myself, the idea is, for those keen in mlm or at least doing business, do you have any clue as to what to do, whom to look for as genuine business partners, how to determine if they would not sell you out nor betray you etc. Not even to mention if your business partners use your copyrighted materials to sell for their own selfish benefits without your approval. All those above actions will cause a lot of negative impacts but how much do you guys really know about it?

None of your MLM uplines shed even a single info about all these right - that's because their knowledge is only so sallow - sorry if I may offend anybody in my thread reply, but all these above serve a purpose - to allow many people to make and informed decisions about what you can learn from mlm if you follow the right person.

It's not about the pay-cheque that they show you, but rather how much can you learn and benefit. And how do you locate such people to learn from.

Originally posted by the_fallen:

MLM is a strategy used currently by majority of the middle income people to generate more income from those innocent, naive and clueless people.

The reason why not many people in corporate businesses are willing to integrate mlm into the business are because they can still generate lots of revenue without mlm itself. Nor do many people know exactly how to untilize thebenefits of mlm to the maximal potential as of yet from what I've exposed to to-date.

It's very common that companies boast about their success else how can they possibly attract more investors who just wants to make money work for them instead of them working for money right?

When people you feel insulted, don't worry, just take it into your stride, and move on, just don't let them know where have they done wrong and leave them to rot in the depths of hell and suffer a heavy consequences of declining creditability & reputation. Just wait for time to pass and stay in contact to see their despair.

The thing is true about doing business, but knowing and doing what you like in your own business is the only way whereby it can succeed. So unless you find your own way of marketing your worth, else you are just as good as nothing - zero because there's no point in keeping your business secrets without generating any revenue from it.

The point you said about 5% commissions VS profits are true but however when it comes to businesses, you need to take into consideration of over-heads (expenses) the running costs, advertising cost incurred etc, moreover do you mean gross profit, net profit, or after re-consilation with bank statements on other bank charges and cheques etc? When it comes to business, the idea is to truly understand the industry inside out, knowing your commpetitive advantage before going in for the kill - stripping off your business competitors ONE BY ONE!!

BUSINESS IS WAR!! ROAR!! - LOL

Fresh MLM agents just need proper guidance but unfortunatly, sad to say: All of the companies are already twisted and Money Focus already. It's even happening in the very company I'm still inside. With that I'll just find my own ways to market myself other than mlm.

I know what platform I'm gonna market myself, the idea is, for those keen in mlm or at least doing business, do you have any clue as to what to do, whom to look for as genuine business partners, how to determine if they would not sell you out nor betray you etc. Not even to mention if your business partners use your copyrighted materials to sell for their own selfish benefits without your approval. All those above actions will cause a lot of negative impacts but how much do you guys really know about it?

None of your MLM uplines shed even a single info about all these right - that's because their knowledge is only so sallow - sorry if I may offend anybody in my thread reply, but all these above serve a purpose - to allow many people to make and informed decisions about what you can learn from mlm if you follow the right person.

It's not about the pay-cheque that they show you, but rather how much can you learn and benefit. And how do you locate such people to learn from.

true...lol

my own experince, don't believe in any MLM

 

http://thewindthatchange.blogspot.com/2009/04/park-you-sgn.html

Originally posted by Angel in Disguise:

my own experince, don't believe in any MLM

 

http://thewindthatchange.blogspot.com/2009/04/park-you-sgn.html

Kindly ignore the above posting.

It's just a one-sided bias blog entry. Moreover this user here is trying to get traffic to his blog and by using valgarity words in his blog, it goes to show that he is just out for revenge and not to share his experience.

Moreover despite me stating how to use this thread, user still refused to listen and keep his mind closed. PLUS user is just all out to flame and pull down the company's name and reputation when it's partially his fault that he signed and paid for whatever products and services within the company.

Verdict of the hyper-link: Poor Content with little to nothing that you can learn from.

Mistakes which we can learn from this user:

1. Inability to admit their own mistake
2. Failure to take responsibility for their mistake
3. Typical Pushing-Blame mentaility - Not a good partner to work wtih in any business
4. Trapped in his own world of made-believed world of all mlm business are scams just because of a few minor poor decisions which resulted in investments losses
5. User is just hoping to get-Rich-Quick scheme - in other words, he allow himself to be tricked as there's a saying like this "There is no Free Lunch in this world" I will add-on to this phrase: "Be prepared to pay a hefty price freebies if you ever get one"
   

if their lunch/dinner is at les amis i no mind lah

but then i always see them at mcd, BK these places leh


and they take mrt there de!!!

anyway

the push blame thing is not mlm people

is singaporeans

Originally posted by the_fallen:

MLM is a strategy used currently by majority of the middle income people to generate more income from those innocent, naive and clueless people.

The reason why not many people in corporate businesses are willing to integrate mlm into the business are because they can still generate lots of revenue without mlm itself. Nor do many people know exactly how to untilize thebenefits of mlm to the maximal potential as of yet from what I've exposed to to-date.

It's very common that companies boast about their success else how can they possibly attract more investors who just wants to make money work for them instead of them working for money right?

When people you feel insulted, don't worry, just take it into your stride, and move on, just don't let them know where have they done wrong and leave them to rot in the depths of hell and suffer a heavy consequences of declining creditability & reputation. Just wait for time to pass and stay in contact to see their despair.

The thing is true about doing business, but knowing and doing what you like in your own business is the only way whereby it can succeed. So unless you find your own way of marketing your worth, else you are just as good as nothing - zero because there's no point in keeping your business secrets without generating any revenue from it.

The point you said about 5% commissions VS profits are true but however when it comes to businesses, you need to take into consideration of over-heads (expenses) the running costs, advertising cost incurred etc, moreover do you mean gross profit, net profit, or after re-consilation with bank statements on other bank charges and cheques etc? When it comes to business, the idea is to truly understand the industry inside out, knowing your commpetitive advantage before going in for the kill - stripping off your business competitors ONE BY ONE!!

BUSINESS IS WAR!! ROAR!! - LOL

Fresh MLM agents just need proper guidance but unfortunatly, sad to say: All of the companies are already twisted and Money Focus already. It's even happening in the very company I'm still inside. With that I'll just find my own ways to market myself other than mlm.

I know what platform I'm gonna market myself, the idea is, for those keen in mlm or at least doing business, do you have any clue as to what to do, whom to look for as genuine business partners, how to determine if they would not sell you out nor betray you etc. Not even to mention if your business partners use your copyrighted materials to sell for their own selfish benefits without your approval. All those above actions will cause a lot of negative impacts but how much do you guys really know about it?

None of your MLM uplines shed even a single info about all these right - that's because their knowledge is only so sallow - sorry if I may offend anybody in my thread reply, but all these above serve a purpose - to allow many people to make and informed decisions about what you can learn from mlm if you follow the right person.

It's not about the pay-cheque that they show you, but rather how much can you learn and benefit. And how do you locate such people to learn from.

ok for the part in green which i had highlighted, in normal businesses, you would gain lets say 10%(this is only a modest percentage, most possibly being much more) deducting everything provided that you are the sole proprieter. however in mlm, you get lets say 5% of the 5% your downlines earn?(another modest sum, might be more)

The thing about mlm is that, everyone other than your downlines are your competitors although they might act friendly infront of you.. so on..
so in an industry having lets say 10 competitors which is already alot vs mlms which you will definetely have thousands of competitors. 

Lets put it in simple ratio             traditional business : mlm
                                       1:100

the feeling of being a team is actually to make the higher ups earn more. what can you earn by helping another person who is not your downline? absolutely nothing other than friendship if they see the same.

 

 

As for the part in red. When you join any company, they will make sure you know the right things in order to boost their business, not in your expense of course.. unlike mlms

 

Originally posted by the_fallen:

Kindly ignore the above posting.

It's just a one-sided bias blog entry. Moreover this user here is trying to get traffic to his blog and by using valgarity words in his blog, it goes to show that he is just out for revenge and not to share his experience.

Moreover despite me stating how to use this thread, user still refused to listen and keep his mind closed. PLUS user is just all out to flame and pull down the company's name and reputation when it's partially his fault that he signed and paid for whatever products and services within the company.

Verdict of the hyper-link: Poor Content with little to nothing that you can learn from.

Mistakes which we can learn from this user:

1. Inability to admit their own mistake
2. Failure to take responsibility for their mistake
3. Typical Pushing-Blame mentaility - Not a good partner to work wtih in any business
4. Trapped in his own world of made-believed world of all mlm business are scams just because of a few minor poor decisions which resulted in investments losses
5. User is just hoping to get-Rich-Quick scheme - in other words, he allow himself to be tricked as there's a saying like this "There is no Free Lunch in this world" I will add-on to this phrase: "Be prepared to pay a hefty price freebies if you ever get one"
   

Mistakes which we can learn from this user:

1. Inability to admit their own mistake   -    his only mistake is joining mlm
2. Failure to take responsibility for their mistake  -  he has paid his price
3. Typical Pushing-Blame mentaility - Not a good partner to work wtih in any business
   this part i agree
4. Trapped in his own world of made-believed world of all mlm business are scams just because of a few minor poor decisions which resulted in investments losses
   yes. his poor decision is joining an mlm
5. User is just hoping to get-Rich-Quick scheme - in other words, he allow himself to be tricked as there's a saying like this "There is no Free Lunch in this world" I will add-on to this phrase: "Be prepared to pay a hefty price freebies if you ever get one"
   isnt mlms all about getting rich?

Originally posted by FireIce:

if their lunch/dinner is at les amis i no mind lah

but then i always see them at mcd, BK these places leh


and they take mrt there de!!!

les amis means?

those in the macdonalds are what you can define as "cheap-po" or near mlm distributors whereby they are newer into the trait be it mlm/insurance/financial planner

for those with more experience and ability to convince their clients, i'm sure they have no problems bringing them directly into the company to talk about the company and the products.

as for meeting people around mrt, it's because the way most mlm companies work revolves around poor/just people with stable income only thus they must locate themselves around mrt stations to make the work of the newer distributors easier.

Originally posted by gigabyte14:

anyway

the push blame thing is not mlm people

is singaporeans

Maybe you're right about this.

Most of the Singaporeans would push the blame to others.

the fallen cheers i like your speech cool! u are right!

Originally posted by elementalangel:

ok for the part in green which i had highlighted, in normal businesses, you would gain lets say 10%(this is only a modest percentage, most possibly being much more) deducting everything provided that you are the sole proprieter. however in mlm, you get lets say 5% of the 5% your downlines earn?(another modest sum, might be more)

The thing about mlm is that, everyone other than your downlines are your competitors although they might act friendly infront of you.. so on..
so in an industry having lets say 10 competitors which is already alot vs mlms which you will definetely have thousands of competitors. 

Lets put it in simple ratio             traditional business : mlm
                                       1:100

the feeling of being a team is actually to make the higher ups earn more. what can you earn by helping another person who is not your downline? absolutely nothing other than friendship if they see the same.

 

As for the part in red. When you join any company, they will make sure you know the right things in order to boost their business, not in your expense of course.. unlike mlms

 

I would agree with the 5% commission over your new downlines in mlm company.

but if you want to earn a higher commission over your downlines be it in any mlm company/insurance/financial company/businesses, you need to have a larger based of downlines in your own network first right?

so you can earn more overriding of commissions. Make sense?

the company doesn't pay higher commissions to those newly promoted managers or new young leaders without deep network based of downlines.

the more the upline earns, it will depend on how much they group sales thus higher commission.

If you want a real-life example - refer to Newspapers and Flyers of Insurance/Property Agents.

Is it the new sales agents who are doing mass recruiting and advertising of their profits or are the Senior Sales Directors who are showing that they can earn more to recruit more agents to join them?

With regards to the RED PORTION:

let me ask you just 1 question:

look around this sgforum for MLM threads except for this thread; do you see a lot of new mlm distributors complaining about them being cheated by the various mlm companies uplines?

2nd Quesiton:

The skeptism of MLM, was it build overnight, and a wide spread DIE DIE MUST AVOID TOPIC AMONG FRIENDS or was it due to lots of SIMILAR Extreme Hard-Core Negative experiences which are common in all discuccsion threads Built over a long period of time?

I'm sure the answer is way too obvious and it's the same across all MLM companies.

Originally posted by elementalangel:

Mistakes which we can learn from this user:

1. Inability to admit their own mistake   -    his only mistake is joining mlm
2. Failure to take responsibility for their mistake  -  he has paid his price
3. Typical Pushing-Blame mentaility - Not a good partner to work wtih in any business
   this part i agree
4. Trapped in his own world of made-believed world of all mlm business are scams just because of a few minor poor decisions which resulted in investments losses
   yes. his poor decision is joining an mlm
5. User is just hoping to get-Rich-Quick scheme - in other words, he allow himself to be tricked as there's a saying like this "There is no Free Lunch in this world" I will add-on to this phrase: "Be prepared to pay a hefty price freebies if you ever get one"
   isnt mlms all about getting rich?

1. NOTE: The folllowing response are replied accordingly to the number as per above
   
2. He's only mistake is joining mlm  - You might want to think otherwise after clicking the link below about Amazon Product to view the Video http://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Want-You-Rich/dp/1933914025 - don't buy the product ar - it's a video of Donald Triump and Robert Kyosaki on why they come up with this book to talk about getting rich, and from what I know they got a chapter on MLM - Don't quote me on this ar, because I myself didn't buy this buy yet to read. The purpose of the above link is just to let you know what tools the rich are using to be even richer and I will not recommend people MLM even after you know more about MLM after reading my thread, because you don't want to pay extra school fees for making a bad choice of joining a negative mlm upline in a mlm company despite the fact I'm a 50/50 supporter of mlm - LOL
   
3. Has he really paid his price to learn from the mistakes or will he pay again in another mlm company when new one come up again in future. You need to know that not many people know how to REFLECT on their own mistakes, like what I've said earlier, they LIKE to push blame and say the fault always lies in others and not themselves. - True or TRUE?
4. Thank you for agreeing with me
   
5. Refer to my reply in response to no 1 as per above and ask yourself that question again.
6. Refer to my reply in response to no 1 again but this time let me ask you another quesiton:  I) Isn't business all about making money. II) Isn't getting employed about making money III) Isn't Macdonalds trying to earn money by selling food to us?

I do hope that you don't have any mental block after this thread reply of mine.

Lol

Originally posted by Muleskinner:

the fallen cheers i like your speech cool! u are right!

Oh, thank you very much for your remark.

Much more specifically when you just registered to post the above comment.

Deeply appreciated.

The reason I'm doing this clearing up of MLM etc is just to let me understand if my knowledge of going around at least 10 mlm companies and above are helpful.

At least now I know and have Confirmed that My knowledge are right and not bias in anyway.

I'll be coming up with lots of information about MLM or perhaps business to be specific in soon but of course, there's no FREE LUNCH as I've said.

and I will not self-advertise in this forum.

if you come to search it online in future when I launch it, like copy my quote at least print-screen your own thread-reply in this thread to get discounts. Oops.. Haha..

Originally posted by the_fallen:

I would agree with the 5% commission over your new downlines in mlm company.

but if you want to earn a higher commission over your downlines be it in any mlm company/insurance/financial company/businesses, you need to have a larger based of downlines in your own network first right?

so you can earn more overriding of commissions. Make sense?

the company doesn't pay higher commissions to those newly promoted managers or new young leaders without deep network based of downlines.

the more the upline earns, it will depend on how much they group sales thus higher commission.

If you want a real-life example - refer to Newspapers and Flyers of Insurance/Property Agents.

Is it the new sales agents who are doing mass recruiting and advertising of their profits or are the Senior Sales Directors who are showing that they can earn more to recruit more agents to join them?

With regards to the RED PORTION:

let me ask you just 1 question:

look around this sgforum for MLM threads except for this thread; do you see a lot of new mlm distributors complaining about them being cheated by the various mlm companies uplines?

2nd Quesiton:

The skeptism of MLM, was it build overnight, and a wide spread DIE DIE MUST AVOID TOPIC AMONG FRIENDS or was it due to lots of SIMILAR Extreme Hard-Core Negative experiences which are common in all discuccsion threads Built over a long period of time?

I'm sure the answer is way too obvious and it's the same across all MLM companies.

for the green part. my question is not about the commissions made or what so ever in mlm companies.

its about the competitivity in this industry. you have totally not answered my question.
mlm vs traditional bussiness.

 

 

 

and like u suggested Insurance/Property Agents , they are the good examples of companies who do not make you learn at you expense in terms of money unlike mlms.

• He's only mistake is joining mlm  - You might want to think otherwise after clicking the link below about Amazon Product to view the Videohttp://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Want-You-Rich/dp/1933914025 - don't buy the product ar - it's a video of Donald Triump and Robert Kyosaki on why they come up with this book to talk about getting rich, and from what I know theygot a chapter on MLM - Don't quote me on this ar, because I myself didn't buy this buy yet to read. The purpose of the above link is just to let you know what tools the rich are using to be even richer and I will not recommend people MLM even after you know more about MLM after reading my thread, because you don't want to pay extra school fees for making a bad choice of joining a negative mlm upline in a mlm company despite the fact I'm a 50/50 supporter of mlm - LOL
  they are owners of businesses, meaning they would either have shares in mlms or they have not joint any mlms, do you really think they would join mlms and start from scratch? 
  my stand is that either they have rich friends who are owners of mlm business or that they are the owners of several mlms themselves.
  its just like a boss talking good about his company
• Has he really paid his price to learn from the mistakes or will he pay again in another mlm company when new one come up again in future. You need to know that not many people know how to REFLECT on their own mistakes, like what I've said earlier, they LIKE to push blame and say the fault always lies in others and not themselves. - True or TRUE?Thank you for agreeing with me
  so now you think that joining an mlm is a mistake which could not be eaisily learnt as they rely on lies to lure others back in?
• Refer to my reply in response to no 1 as per above and ask yourself that question again.
  refer to 1
• Refer to my reply in response to no 1 again but this time let me ask you another quesiton:  I) Isn't business all about making money. II) Isn't getting employed about making money III) Isn't Macdonalds trying to earn money by selling food to us
  refer to 1

any way for III) Isn't Macdonalds trying to earn money by selling food to us

they do not earn money at other people's expense. if you do not sell any food, you do not lose any money at macdonalds, in fact you still get your pay and maybe a warning.

Originally posted by the_fallen:

Oh, thank you very much for your remark.

Much more specifically when you just registered to post the above comment.

Deeply appreciated.

The reason I'm doing this clearing up of MLM etc is just to let me understand if my knowledge of going around at least 10 mlm companies and above are helpful.

At least now I know and have Confirmed that My knowledge are right and not bias in anyway.

I'll be coming up with lots of information about MLM or perhaps business to be specific in soon but of course, there's no FREE LUNCH as I've said.

and I will not self-advertise in this forum.

if you come to search it online in future when I launch it, like copy my quote at least print-screen your own thread-reply in this thread to get discounts. Oops.. Haha..

actually i also do like praises from one posters =)

Originally posted by elementalangel:

for the green part. my question is not about the commissions made or what so ever in mlm companies.

its about the competitivity in this industry. you have totally not answered my question.
mlm vs traditional bussiness.

 

and like u suggested Insurance/Property Agents , they are the good examples of companies who do not make you learn at you expense in terms of money unlike mlms.

Agree to a certain extent only, because there are still a small number of negative/despereate insurance/propety agents, just that because it's a regulated company and legalized + recognized already, thus there's less complaints which makes the headlines.

Example of the latest negative practices of Insurance agents - AIG incident. :)

Just learn to be careful

Originally posted by elementalangel:

any way for III) Isn't Macdonalds trying to earn money by selling food to us

they do not earn money at other people's expense. if you do not sell any food, you do not lose any money at macdonalds, in fact you still get your pay and maybe a warning.

I'm saying maconalds primarily because it's also a business is about earning money, no other intentions intented at all.

i use macdonalds just painly because it's a successful and running franchise business that's running a healthy business whereby we are all happy with the products and services which they offer.

Originally posted by elementalangel:

for the green part. my question is not about the commissions made or what so ever in mlm companies.

its about the competitivity in this industry. you have totally not answered my question.
mlm vs traditional bussiness.

 

and like u suggested Insurance/Property Agents , they are the good examples of companies who do not make you learn at you expense in terms of money unlike mlms.

perhaps you can rephrase your question again so I can better understand the question which you're trying to ask.

Disclaimer first: If the question is a high-level question which I might/will featured in my own paid product for sale in future, I will tell you directly it's my business secret as my own knowledge which I paid for SGD$5000 worth of business experiences in mlm to learn those knowledge after reflection + SGD$8000 worth of private business education courses in marketing etc. So until you or anybody else touch on sensitive business secrets of mine, i'll be happy to give out free information. :)

Originally posted by the_fallen:

Agree to a certain extent only, because there are still a small number of negative/despereate insurance/propety agents, just that because it's a regulated company and legalized + recognized already, thus there's less complaints which makes the headlines.

Example of the latest negative practices of Insurance agents - AIG incident. :)

Just learn to be careful

ok what about the competition part? mlm vs traditional?

anyway insurance agents and property agents are an example of network marketting however with a license required and no expense in terms of money.

Originally posted by the_fallen:

I'm saying maconalds primarily because it's also a business is about earning money, no other intentions intented at all.

i use macdonalds just painly because it's a successful and running franchise business that's running a healthy business whereby we are all happy with the products and services which they offer.

hmmmm btw u havnt answered my question...