LORD BUHDDA IS TOOPID AND FOOLISsT replied by An Eternal Now @ Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:23:24 +0800

An Eternal Now — Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:23:24 +0800

Originally posted by jay_rocks:

whr has the asshole go to?

Please read the reply by Beyond Religion above.

Anyway the topic is misleading and no longer serves its purpose (the original post has also been deleted), and therefore I shall be closing this thread.

LORD BUHDDA IS TOOPID AND FOOLISsT replied by jay_rocks @ Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:58:01 +0800

jay_rocks — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:58:01 +0800

whr has the asshole go to?

LORD BUHDDA IS TOOPID AND FOOLISsT replied by cycle @ Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:32:38 +0800

cycle — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:32:38 +0800

In a way, I agree with Yamizi.

I mean, if we are unhappy or dissagree with other fellow Buddhists's way of life, character, or practice, which I think the TS was trying to implied, then maybe we should improve on ourselves first. No need to put others down for not following the way which we think is "correct". We are all learning in stages. If we can see others faults ( which are just what we thought ), then we learn not to repeat such actions. No need to creat a fuss or even "unrest". Always start from correcting ourselves, before we can help others to correct.

Tsk. Tdy I talk too much... no good. Zip.

LORD BUHDDA IS TOOPID AND FOOLISsT replied by yamizi @ Fri, 28 Dec 2007 11:05:14 +0800

yamizi — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 11:05:14 +0800

I am definitely okay with people challenge the buddhist faith and its doctrines but I really think that the title of this thread is rather insulting.

I think there is a difference in genuinely curious and outright humiliative and if the person has doubt in something, he/she shouldn't have start a thread with such a heading. It shows that he/she lack of patient and tolerance him/herself.

LORD BUHDDA IS TOOPID AND FOOLISsT replied by Beyond Religion @ Fri, 28 Dec 2007 10:18:33 +0800

Beyond Religion — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 10:18:33 +0800

Originally posted by wilsonhao:

Now look whos stupid in the first place.. Its so foolish to critsize someone when you dunno how much knowledge and wisdom he has.

TS' intention is not malicious. He is also not a troll. He is a Buddhist and I think his intent is to show to fellow Buddhists that we do not practice what we learn in Buddhism. Here's a quote from the TS clarifying his intent, found in page 2 of this thread.

Lord buhdda is nothing but a normal person, his deeds and achievement are nothing measurable,

Lord buhdda is empty and originate from a human form, his achievements are nothing measurable because it is infinite, far too great to be measured and experience cannot be gauge, true?

Well, Lord buhdda is toopid and foolist, the right words for lord buhdda is stupid and foolish, its what the content that matter, i will give u a nicely covered book with hilarious content.

I said about his followers, yea?

Apparently, i am half impressed by some who here who indeed speaks of great wisdom whereas some who jsut preach the teaching of buhdda. I am personally in awe of the teaching of buhdda but in my recent stay here. I am very curious, i seen few religion threads, islam to christian, many are jsut an opposite of what their religion preaches.

I have a relative who practise buhdda teaching, meditate, go to temple, talk to his master, But i am pratically in shock that he is just someone who didnt have the right temper and attitude, wish you all can see what i am trying to say.

A chinese saying, real gold will withstand the heat. How much faith do you have in buhdda. Why is there such a strong reaction? Did the teaching buhdda indicate so? i beg to differ, why not go to read up some of the article An Enternal Now have put up.

I have found the answer i seek, to pick up buhddism for the sake of magic or pick up buhddism for sake of cultivating and alternatives. I been to quite afew forums and most are aggressive, Buhddism:wisdom bliss is a forum so far the friendliest of my walks of life, so i have decided to put a test to it.

Is those who practise buhdda teaching really practising buhddas teaching or are they in the pretext of it, initially, i have no faith in much religion except buhdda because his teaching speak the most sense but my question arrive to the point of his followers. How much impact can it have on the devotee.

My conclusion have finally urge me to pick buhddism as a religion even though its teaching do not have much influence on all but i can see it on some, which is a good thing.

LORD BUHDDA IS TOOPID AND FOOLISsT replied by Herzog_Zwei @ Fri, 28 Dec 2007 10:01:15 +0800

Herzog_Zwei — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 10:01:15 +0800

Originally posted by wilsonhao:

Now look whos stupid in the first place.. Its so foolish to critsize someone when you dunno how much knowledge and wisdom he has.

But if you know he is falsely claiming biased conciousness to be something else? What would you do?

LORD BUHDDA IS TOOPID AND FOOLISsT replied by wilsonhao @ Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:27:42 +0800

wilsonhao — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:27:42 +0800

Now look whos stupid in the first place.. Its so foolish to critsize someone when you dunno how much knowledge and wisdom he has.

LORD BUHDDA IS TOOPID AND FOOLISsT replied by An Eternal Now @ Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:10:13 +0800

An Eternal Now — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:10:13 +0800

Originally posted by vegitto:
that picture

the gal i used to like is inside..

sighz

thought of putting this picture up so she can notice... *sadd*

You mean the picture of the guys in robes in your profile?

So what is the sangha/organisation that the group of people in the picture are from? You're not part of the sangha?

anyway a lot of grandmasters books ard..like zong ge ba's pu ti dao ci di guang lun, long shu pu sa's da zhi du lun, etc..

aren't they considered grandmasters??

i believe in eng they are called abbhidarma??

not sure of the eng terms

as i mentioned b4, i've been using mandarin as medium...

anyway anyone here noes venerable kai zhao? he's a teravada monk from msia.
taken refuge under him.

he's been to sg to give talks occasionally..but sadly i haven't been going

I see. Sorry as if I have mistaken your meaning.

LORD BUHDDA IS TOOPID AND FOOLISsT replied by An Eternal Now @ Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:06:38 +0800

An Eternal Now — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:06:38 +0800

LORD BUHDDA IS TOOPID AND FOOLISsT replied by TekkenDR_admin@c0.jp @ Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:21:28 +0800

TekkenDR_admin@c0.jp — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:21:28 +0800

Originally posted by Lin Yu:

he's answerable to his own karma

i so agree with you

LORD BUHDDA IS TOOPID AND FOOLISsT replied by bohiruci @ Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:05:34 +0800

bohiruci — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:05:34 +0800

Originally posted by An Eternal Now:

I see... very sorry if I have made a mistake. Yes, they do have a branch here.

Cos I was surfing friendster and found your contact 'jupiterseow@hotmail.com' http://profiles.friendster.com/user.php?uid=2230526, where you wrote your favourite books are 'GrandMaster's Books!!!' (Grand Master is the title they coined for their master Lu-Sheng yen) and within the picture of the sangha looked like True Buddha School (costumes look a little similar). And then I clicked on the link 'GrandMaster's Books!!!' and it linked me to another person's friendster profile, and for that person it is clearly stated she is from True Buddha School.

When I check her photos, it seems that their costume are exactly the same: http://www.friendster.com/photos/8987159/0/132664549#pic=1691236207 . Your profile: http://photos-526.friendster.com/e1/photos/62/50/2230526/36471032245637l.jpg. I don't recall Mahayana wearing this sort of costumes for lay persons. Furthermore, the picture in your profile shows a mixture of Vajrayana and Mahayana costume, not coming from a single school, a characteristic of True Buddha School.

But I might very well have made a mistake.

What sangha/organisation are you from btw?

Hi AEN , I think Vegitto is right ,in singapore there is a buddhist discussion group based on taiwanese dharma master and the medium of teaching is in chinese

anyway vegitto mention Lama Je Tsongkhapa Lam Rim Chenmo and
Ven Kai zhao which is quite orthodox .

I think its not that nice to impose if he isnt fm True Buddha School

Certain robes in taiwanese tradition also mixed

True Buddha School wouldnt really want to come here due to their allegiance to Padmakara teachings

In fact , I think there is a rise of such discussion-based temple group in singapore

As long as they follow the 4 reliance by Buddha Sakyamuni , there isnt any unorthodox activities they engaging

LORD BUHDDA IS TOOPID AND FOOLISsT replied by vegitto @ Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:41:34 +0800

vegitto — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:41:34 +0800

Originally posted by An Eternal Now:

I see... very sorry if I have made a mistake. Yes, they do have a branch here.

Cos I was surfing friendster and found your contact 'jupiterseow@hotmail.com' http://profiles.friendster.com/user.php?uid=2230526, where you wrote your favourite books are 'GrandMaster's Books!!!' (Grand Master is the title they coined for their master Lu-Sheng yen) and within the picture of the sangha looked like True Buddha School (costumes look a little similar). And then I clicked on the link 'GrandMaster's Books!!!' and it linked me to another person's friendster profile, and for that person it is clearly stated she is from True Buddha School.

When I check her photos, it seems that their costume are exactly the same: http://www.friendster.com/photos/8987159/0/132664549#pic=1691236207 . Your profile: http://photos-526.friendster.com/e1/photos/62/50/2230526/36471032245637l.jpg. I don't recall Mahayana wearing this sort of costumes for lay persons. Furthermore, the picture in your profile shows a mixture of Vajrayana and Mahayana costume, not coming from a single school, a characteristic of True Buddha School.

But I might very well have made a mistake.

What sangha/organisation are you from btw?

that picture

the gal i used to like is inside..

sighz

thought of putting this picture up so she can notice... *sadd*

anyway a lot of grandmasters books ard..like zong ge ba's pu ti dao ci di guang lun, long shu pu sa's da zhi du lun, etc..

aren't they considered grandmasters??

i believe in eng they are called abbhidarma??

not sure of the eng terms

as i mentioned b4, i've been using mandarin as medium...

anyway anyone here noes venerable kai zhao? he's a teravada monk from msia.
taken refuge under him.

he's been to sg to give talks occasionally..but sadly i haven't been going

LORD BUHDDA IS TOOPID AND FOOLISsT replied by <Precious> @ Thu, 06 Dec 2007 11:22:43 +0800

Thu, 06 Dec 2007 11:22:43 +0800

STOO-PIDER the person who calls another by one!

LORD BUHDDA IS TOOPID AND FOOLISsT replied by An Eternal Now @ Thu, 06 Dec 2007 10:57:30 +0800

An Eternal Now — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 10:57:30 +0800

Originally posted by vegitto:

helloz. watever made u come to that conclusion?

i would have wanted to suggest to TS that he may start by learning the precepts, 4 noble truths and eightfold path, etc. before going to mahayana texts.

wat i've noticed is that a lot of ppl are quite lost when 1st contact with buddhism, and straight away they will go into zen, vajrayana etc. whereas the precepts, 4 noble truths and eightfold path is a very good foundation of which many ppl neglected.

been here coz there's a lot of ppl here who knows a lot more than me, and i benefitted from reading wat they have shared in the threads.

true buddha school, they've got branch in sg? aren't they located at taiwan and US.

I see... very sorry if I have made a mistake. Yes, they do have a branch here.

Cos I was surfing friendster and found your contact 'jupiterseow@hotmail.com' http://profiles.friendster.com/user.php?uid=2230526, where you wrote your favourite books are 'GrandMaster's Books!!!' (Grand Master is the title they coined for their master Lu-Sheng yen) and within the picture of the sangha looked like True Buddha School (costumes look a little similar). And then I clicked on the link 'GrandMaster's Books!!!' and it linked me to another person's friendster profile, and for that person it is clearly stated she is from True Buddha School.

When I check her photos, it seems that their costume are exactly the same: http://www.friendster.com/photos/8987159/0/132664549#pic=1691236207 . Your profile: http://photos-526.friendster.com/e1/photos/62/50/2230526/36471032245637l.jpg. I don't recall Mahayana wearing this sort of costumes for lay persons. Furthermore, the picture in your profile shows a mixture of Vajrayana and Mahayana costume, not coming from a single school, a characteristic of True Buddha School.

But I might very well have made a mistake.

What sangha/organisation are you from btw?

LORD BUHDDA IS TOOPID AND FOOLISsT replied by vegitto @ Thu, 06 Dec 2007 10:48:28 +0800

vegitto — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 10:48:28 +0800

Originally posted by An Eternal Now:

Hi.. you're in True Buddha School right? This school is not recognised in our forum as well as in mainstream Buddhism. For more information, see Schools/Traditions/Sects NOT Recognised In Our Forum

&

http://www.lioncity.net/buddhism/index.php?showtopic=52411 (E-sangha topic, "who is this "PADMAKUMARA" OR Sheng-Yen Lu, I HEARD THAT HE IS FAKE MONK IZIT TRUE?" ) -- contains a very long essay by global moderator Henry on the school.

http://www.shcstory.com/

http://www.buddhismaustralia.org/cults.htm

Members of groups not recognised by the forum may participate in our discussions but are not allowed to promote their organisation and materials (i.e urls, etc) to the forum.

helloz. watever made u come to that conclusion?

i would have wanted to suggest to TS that he may start by learning the precepts, 4 noble truths and eightfold path, etc. before going to mahayana texts.

wat i've noticed is that a lot of ppl are quite lost when 1st contact with buddhism, and straight away they will go into zen, vajrayana etc. whereas the precepts, 4 noble truths and eightfold path is a very good foundation of which many ppl neglected.

been here coz there's a lot of ppl here who knows a lot more than me, and i benefitted from reading wat they have shared in the threads.

true buddha school, they've got branch in sg? aren't they located at taiwan and US.

LORD BUHDDA IS TOOPID AND FOOLISsT replied by goolen2001 @ Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:20:03 +0800

goolen2001 — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:20:03 +0800

haha... cheskiz...

LORD BUHDDA IS TOOPID AND FOOLISsT replied by Herzog_Zwei @ Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:51:22 +0800

Herzog_Zwei — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:51:22 +0800

Originally posted by An Eternal Now:

Buddhism truths applies to all humans even mad humans, but it doesn't mean they may understand it. Just because you can't understand something doesn't mean that it isn't true.

Just because you are blind doesn't mean that the microscope doesn't apply to everyone in order to find out about the microorganism -- but it is just too unfortunate you are blind and cannot look into it.

Similarly, if one is blind to the truths it doesn't mean the dharma doesn't apply to him, it just means he is blind and cannot look into his mind.

Stop! Generalization is percieved on your posting. How can you be sure that Dharma can be applied to everyone and anyone? Next, your analogy on being blind is being unable to use a microscope is politically incorrect and technologically inaccurate.

LORD BUHDDA IS TOOPID AND FOOLISsT replied by gunner77 @ Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:31:09 +0800

gunner77 — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:31:09 +0800

TS is an ASS

LORD BUHDDA IS TOOPID AND FOOLISsT replied by An Eternal Now @ Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:49:58 +0800

An Eternal Now — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:49:58 +0800

Originally posted by vegitto:

may i noe wat's the sutra/articles/information that u have read?

becoz the most common sutra, which is the heart sutra, is a summarized sutra of the diamond sutra, of which can be considered as a summarized sutra of the maha prajna(i'm only familiar of chinese names) sutra, which is 600 scripts of text.

and the heart sutra is, highly profound. u cannot just understand by the literal meaning of the words. even if u understand the meaning, u will not be able to realise the way(understanding and realising is very different).

perhaps u would like to start with something not as profound? seriously when i started reading and reciting the heart sutra at 17 yr old, i have no idea wat it means.

until ard 5-6 yrs of exploring in buddhism, finally practising under my master for 2-3 yrs, i can more or less understand about half of wat the heart sutra is implying.

Hi.. you're in True Buddha School right? This school is not recognised in our forum as well as in mainstream Buddhism. For more information, see Schools/Traditions/Sects NOT Recognised In Our Forum

&

http://www.lioncity.net/buddhism/index.php?showtopic=52411 (E-sangha topic, "who is this "PADMAKUMARA" OR Sheng-Yen Lu, I HEARD THAT HE IS FAKE MONK IZIT TRUE?" ) -- contains a very long essay by global moderator Henry on the school.

http://www.shcstory.com/

http://www.buddhismaustralia.org/cults.htm

Members of groups not recognised by the forum may participate in our discussions but are not allowed to promote their organisation and materials (i.e urls, etc) to the forum.

LORD BUHDDA IS TOOPID AND FOOLISsT replied by An Eternal Now @ Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:49:58 +0800

An Eternal Now — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:49:58 +0800

(double post)

LORD BUHDDA IS TOOPID AND FOOLISsT replied by jacqn @ Mon, 03 Dec 2007 11:53:31 +0800

jacqn — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 11:53:31 +0800

yes, it is a teaching, not religion. i agree with most of the teachings and follow, not blindly, but becos it is my natural reaction. if you follow your heart and it goes in line with the teachings, then even if you are not a buddhist, it really doesnt matter.

LORD BUHDDA IS TOOPID AND FOOLISsT replied by de_middle @ Mon, 03 Dec 2007 11:36:05 +0800

de_middle — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 11:36:05 +0800

LORD BUHDDA IS TOOPID AND FOOLISsT replied by bjork @ Mon, 03 Dec 2007 11:32:55 +0800

bjork — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 11:32:55 +0800

buddism is a teaching not a religion. so we don't follow blindly, instead, we read and understand the knowledge and hence we apply it in our everyday life.

LORD BUHDDA IS TOOPID AND FOOLISsT replied by jacqn @ Mon, 03 Dec 2007 11:14:16 +0800

jacqn — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 11:14:16 +0800

Originally posted by cheskiz:

Guess yer too engross with karma.

People use magic in the name of some god to curse people,

Who receive the karma?

Animals see humans as cruelty and humans see animals as beastly and cruel.

So how is karma going to judge?

some people who felt the effects of karma in the present, do not mean they did bad before in this life, they may have done wrong in previous lives( if you believe), and karma only catch up with them this life. what you see now is the effect of what you did. and what you do will indirectly cause effect in your future. it may not happen in this life too.

whatever you do, you will have confidence that you will not suffer bad if you do nothing bad to yourself and others. its like saving money in the future. if you do come across unhappiness, tell yourself that you are just getting rid of the bad karma you may had accumulate in the past unknowingly. after overcoming, it will be good.

thats what i understand and believe in. Please correct me of i am not correct in any way.

LORD BUHDDA IS TOOPID AND FOOLISsT replied by vegitto @ Mon, 03 Dec 2007 10:57:22 +0800

vegitto — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 10:57:22 +0800

Originally posted by cheskiz:

Even though i have read some things on buhddism, i still realise that it is a very hard to make out even though u might have understand so.

The blood might not be as red as you think it is,

Only being there and done it can one understand it.

When one say someone is foolish, he or she is sunk into a bottomless pit and have lost wisdom and mindfullness at that moment.

I can still smoke my way through with a concept of is the water half-filled or water not half-filled strategy. What is your definition of priceless, is it worthless or money cant buy thing....

may i noe wat's the sutra/articles/information that u have read?

becoz the most common sutra, which is the heart sutra, is a summarized sutra of the diamond sutra, of which can be considered as a summarized sutra of the maha prajna(i'm only familiar of chinese names) sutra, which is 600 scripts of text.

and the heart sutra is, highly profound. u cannot just understand by the literal meaning of the words. even if u understand the meaning, u will not be able to realise the way(understanding and realising is very different).

perhaps u would like to start with something not as profound? seriously when i started reading and reciting the heart sutra at 17 yr old, i have no idea wat it means.

until ard 5-6 yrs of exploring in buddhism, finally practising under my master for 2-3 yrs, i can more or less understand about half of wat the heart sutra is implying.

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