Of course I didn't do my homework properly lah....because its not my homework mah.Originally posted by casshern:u did not do ur homework at all
Corolla Altis- 1600 Seda VVTi Auto Deluxe ZZE121R-GEPNKT - 57179
from borneo motors website
dun give me the excuse that the Altis and the Getz are of different class cos u included the Lancer and Sunny which are 1.6 also and I have no idea why u also excluded the Impreza TS
BTW, ur comparison is totally unfair, cos u left out the European brands.
Fiat Punto 1.4 is easily 70k. Ford focus 1.4 is 58k
In short, the Getz still need alot of work, also price is not a good indicator quality.
Originally posted by gentlerock:Of course I didn't do my homework properly lah....because its not my homework mah.
Perhaps the title was misleading - I meant it as a comparison between Getz and the Jap cars.
What I did was take the Getz Auto and compared it with others in its class (1.4-1.6 litre auto). Since Getz is the lowest priced model in the Hyundai range, I compared it with other lowest priced models of other brands (in the 1.4-1.6 litre range). Thus, Vios and not Altis.....thus, Sunny and not Latio....etc.
there's a very big difference btw the 1.4 to 1.6 , they are of totally different class, so if u wan to look at it, u should only be looking at 1.4 cars only for the best comparision
True, price is not an indication of quality, but when prices are high and sales are still good, it is an indication of demand. This is what I meant by Koreans overtaking the Japs (by being able to popularise their products, with higher prices).
neither can demand indicate quality. if something is cheap, most singaporeans will just rush in to buy. and relatively the Getz is a cheap car for its capability and its target niche market
Just like you, I'm still doubtful of Korean quality (and on this, I speak from personal experience).
Altis and the Ford should not be in this comparsion? den why is the nissan and sunny in there since all the 4 of them are 1.6 litre cars, not 1.4. by including the sunny and lancer in the above comparsion, its implying that Mitsubishi and Nissan had failed to counter attack the 1.6 litre market that was dominated by toyota?Originally posted by sir_boris:I think gentlerock's analysis is correct. It is trying to show that Getz is even more expensive then those above its class of Jap make (eg Lancer, Sunny).
Altis and Contis should not be dragged into this comparison as they are of different class (in this manner, of higher class), and naturally would be more expensive then Getz.![]()
This is exactly my point. If the Getz 1.4 could be more expensive than a Jap 1.6, and the Getz is still selling well, then I would consider the Getz as somewhat a success.Originally posted by casshern:there's a very big difference btw the 1.4 to 1.6 , they are of totally different class, so if u wan to look at it, u should only be looking at 1.4 cars only for the best comparision
I agree that price and demand are not necessarily indications of quality. But I never mentioned or implied that the Getz was selling well due to its quality.Originally posted by casshern:neither can demand indicate quality.
Right - and this is the reason why I'm amazed that people still choose the Getz (more expensive) over the Lancer, Vios, etc (which are cheaper).Originally posted by casshern:if something is cheap, most singaporeans will just rush in to buy. and relatively the Getz is a cheap car for its capability and its target niche market
I tried Mazda's website leh....but couldn't find pricing.Originally posted by pbeyondp:maybe u should bring in Jazz, madza2, rio
hannorOriginally posted by ditzy:52K for a getz? Might as well get a 1.5l suzuki swift.![]()
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Yes you're right - road tax is an important factor.Originally posted by casshern:u forgot about the Road Tax factor, which plays a very very big part in Singapore on owning a car
Originally posted by gentlerock:Once in a while, I just check around for car prices just for the heck of it. I thought Hyundais were popular mainly due to their attractive prices. But this time, I found that some of Hyundai's prices have now exceeded other popular and more established Japanese makes!
Hyundai Getz 1.4 5-Door Auto = $ 52,999 (Reference)
Suzuki Liana 1.6 Sedan Auto = $ 50,500 (Reference)
Toyota Vios 1.5 Sedan Auto = $ 50,217 (Reference) - look for price list on top
Nissan Sunny 1.6 Auto = $ 52,300 (Reference)
Mitsubishi Lancer 1.6 CVT = $ 49,988 (Reference)
The only two exceptions I could think of were Honda Jazz and Subaru Impreza, both of which are priced higher than the Getz.
Yet there are so many Getz cars on the roads. Could it be the first signs of Koreans overtaking the Japs?
FYI, not everyone can comfortablely afford a car, so that 170 dollars a year makes a big difference when u are paying it together with ur insurance.Originally posted by T.Ryousuke:1.6 road tax high???
1.4 780
1.5 874
1.6 950
1.8 1242
2.0 1548
Btw 1.4 and 1.6 different is $170 per yr. And u are paying 52k for a 1.4l car which infact you can get a cheaper 1.5l or same price of 1.6l.
Why don't compare cc to cc, Kia Rio & Cerato, mazda 2, Honda City & jazz, Hyundai Verna & Matrix, Nissan March, Mit Colt, Toyota Yaris?
Had saw few accident involve Getz, don't really impress with it!
If someone tell me $170 is alot if he want to buy a car, then I suggest dun buy. 1.4 and 1.6 in the past can have a difference of 20k , and if insurance is also a problem then I think better stay away from Honda Civic. I think the price he quoted is a 1.6 Getz not a 1.4! Comparing all car cost, Toyota is still the best.Originally posted by casshern:FYI, not everyone can comfortablely afford a car, so that 170 dollars a year makes a big difference when u are paying it together with ur insurance.
and yes, i also think that for a fair comparison, CC to CC is the best. include all cars tat are 1.4 Litre, and take a look at the prices. tats the only fair comparison.
and yes, i saw Getz totally smashed up, not really total loss while the other japanese car (shall not mention brand) only had the bumper up lorry. its quite a difference if u see them side by side
So if they see you drive something continental, they bow down to you?Originally posted by Thailand_Hero:if neighbours see me driving a korean car...i lose face sia...
thats why i always use Jap cars
no but at least people dont look down on uOriginally posted by ditzy:So if they see you drive something continental, they bow down to you?![]()