Why, are People Like That?
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About two weeks ago, Flying Dutchman and Glen Ong talked about how a lot of people when they know someone is waiting for their lot, takes their own sweet mother's time to move out of their lot.
Personally, I have encountered such people too and I'm sure, most of you here will have too.
In my experience, the other party are largely ladies or young women who once in their car starts the engine, and began to make a call or SMS with their mobile phone knowing full well, that I am waiting to take her lot.
I often wonder; what good is a country of educated people who does not have any sense of common courtesy?
It is also my observation that, it is very possible that people who intentionally take their own time to leave their lot knowing someone else is waiting, because someone else have done that to him/her and he/she is returning the bad experience.
This is quite likely the case with, I believe, EVERYTHING in Singapore.
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i dunno for others, but for me, if i'm at a place for a long time and engine is cooled down, i'll warm up the engine before i move out of the lot.
engone is mpre impt. at the end of the day, it's juz a 5 min difference. -
I beg to differ, it can be a host of other likely reasons,
-women drivers(pardon me) tend to be more oblivious to their surrounding, they may see you but they don't really care what you're doing.
-people on the hp or sms to confirm their next meeting with the other party before moving off.
-some people like to take awhile to settle down in their car before moving off while they let their engine warm up( should take less than 1 to 2 mins). or they have some time to kill before their next destination cos their early. or take the time to destress and think cos their in the comforts of their vehicle where he/she can have privacy.
-and of course all the comments you've posted, but i seriously doubt they would wanna waste their time like that irritating others, think it's just a minority esp. in SG.
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1 to 2 mins to warm up is ok.. i once aited for 5 mins for a lady to move out...
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they like ppl to wait for em.
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i dun do tat but since u know someone is waiting jz chop chop move out lo... but dun tink its jz women... men will also do tat... its jz whether they wan to follow the 'rules' anot... maybe u met them on their red days...
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walk up to the car with a coin ...
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U are quite right about the behaviours of Singaporeans everywhere they go. On many occasions, they do deliberately dilly dally when they jolly well know that someone is waiting. It is their joy to see someone hard up for their lot. Of course, there are also people that are very zhi tong and quickly move off. I usually remote start my car before I go to my car so that it is adequately warmed up.
If one wants to warm up their car, they should drive slowly off till the oil temp reaches 70 degrees and above.Originally posted by ShutterBug:About two weeks ago, Flying Dutchman and Glen Ong talked about how a lot of people when they know someone is waiting for their lot, takes their own sweet mother's time to move out of their lot.
Personally, I have encountered such people too and I'm sure, most of you here will have too.
In my experience, the other party are largely ladies or young women who once in their car starts the engine, and began to make a call or SMS with their mobile phone knowing full well, that I am waiting to take her lot.
I often wonder; what good is a country of educated people who does not have any sense of common courtesy?
It is also my observation that, it is very possible that people who intentionally take their own time to leave their lot knowing someone else is waiting, because someone else have done that to him/her and he/she is returning the bad experience.
This is quite likely the case with, I believe, EVERYTHING in Singapore.
What says you all?? -
I think it depends on how long you wait.. if it is like 1 - 2 minutes, for them to put their shopping properly, make a call to confirm the next appointment, I think it is fair. They didn't expect you to be waiting there, and it is definitely safer to make a call IN the parking lot than on the road.
I don't mind waiting. What I DO MIND, is people who see I am waiting, come in, put their stuff without even acknowledging me, and then.. WALKING AWAY. I mean if you are NOT going to leave, and u know I am waiting, just let me know lah!
AND the most -use fist beat heart- thing is.. when u are ALREADy waiting and some big lorry comes in at the same time that a car leaves, and just quickly rush to that spot EVEN THOUGH he know u were there first. And big lorry what, L L loh. -
nothing wrong with it
sometimes
when we finish our lunch/dinner,
we wil go back to the car for a smoke before moving out..
since we can't smoke in the coffeeshop/hawker centre
if u waiting for a slot, then haf to lan lan wait wad..
if not u can choose to park elsewehere -
ya,but i veri considerate de,once i reach my lot,i immediately start my engine n zoom off le..but some ppl know tat others r waiting,but they slowly comb their hair n do their make up,making others to wait
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some people just like being assholes and pricks for the hell of it ....
and it's just parking spaces either ... do you let people who've signalled properly into your lane ? ... lots of farkers around who'll purposely step on the gas just for spite ... what's the point ? ... rushing to get reincarnated ? ...
driving in Singapore is so stressful sometimes ...
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actually, in countries like us, we actually dont need to warm up our engine before moving off.. you only need to warm up your engine if you are living in temperate country... Coz in our hot weather country where tmperatrure is about the same, thers no need to warm up... think a lot of Singaporean got this wrong perception...Originally posted by kentheman:i dunno for others, but for me, if i'm at a place for a long time and engine is cooled down, i'll warm up the engine before i move out of the lot.
engone is mpre impt. at the end of the day, it's juz a 5 min difference.
You need to cool down properly if your car is a performance like rex or evo...
cheers -
I wonder how many people really preach what they say
driving off immediately after u board the car?
ask yrself lah, how many times u will purposely dilly-dally a bit when u see someone who is waiting for the lot
just becoz u r the receiving end, so grumble so people not considerate..
i don't think 5-10 minutes make much difference. If i were to smoke elsewhere, i will still come back after 5-10 minutes. -
That's why I gave up on sg a long time ago...We may be one of the most educated and so called advanced....but hey look....our so called research facilities are just pure mimicry centres....reverse engineering what others have and there is no true innovation.
Much has also been said about our education systema and amidst all teh so-called changes, it still the same old conservative system....to get a true picture of the gahment is up to, how they spend and how they think...work with them as outside vendors and you know what I mean...the leaders may be far-sighted and smart and I do not have any qualms about that...its the middle managers....the directors and managers that are slowing things down....narrow minded and only care about their own immediate area....
Oh yes and another thing...the save face mentality...the need to not admit fault and the expert way in how they beat around the bush to explain why they do such things in the Straits Times forum....we all know the truth....
That's why this country is hopeless and I'm glad my sons will not be around to serve NS...not even me hahaha...cashing out of here as a ex-citizen -
such behaviour are common in eateries.
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Precisely, dragg.,Originally posted by dragg:such behaviour are common in eateries.
I mean, this habit of 'hogging' is common and in EVERYWHERE and in EVERYTHING people do!!
At Food Courts or Hawker Centers; they will sit and talk cok, drink slowly and even when there is clearly no more food or drinks on their table, they look at you standing waiting for the table and continue to talk or joke.
In multi-storey or basemnet carparks of shopping centers; people will drive SLOWLY looking for a lot. Stops suddenly to contemplate an empty lot (witout turning on hazard lights), then move off again SLOWLY looking around like no one else is on Earth and behind. And then when he/she finds an ideal lot, he/she wil suddenly brake and go into reverse - NO HAZARD SIGNALS AT ALL! So if you happen to be one car-length behind and there are others behind you, you'd be hard put to reverse. And this really holds up the entire line of cars just because of one singular SELFISH SOUL, in front!!!
So this is what happens also; I keep about 2 car-lengths behind the car in front looking for a lot in a basement carpark, so that in case (which is always) he/she stops without hazard lights I don't end up trying to reverse with traffic behind me. But some idiot behind will suddenly overtake and fill up that the space I kept in front! Walan... I tell you this burns me up!
Why the fuk are people like this, I ask you all??
I look at people driving nice elegant above average cars but their driving manners are so UNCULTURED, ILLITERATE, and BARBARIC!!! -
One more thing; how long do you normally take to reverse-park your car into a lot in a basement carpark or multi-storey carpark?
> 1 minute?
> 2 minutes?
> 4 minutes?
> 5 minutes and more?
This is also what I notice in all type of carparks; people take unusually long to park. When I look at them, I note that they are moving very slowly, very cautious and almost looks like they just pass!
But funny, I followed one car that was driving very fast and confidently on the road into a carpark, only to be held up behind him as he took his own sweet mother's time to slowly reverse crawl into a lot! WALAN!!!
At first I thought it was because sometimes people like to make me wait because of my Jag S-Type. But no... when I drive a van it is also the same!!!
Generally, I can quite confidently say that people in our society at large, are SELFISH.
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There are always 2 sides to a story.
I for one feel pressured - whether to leave or to park - if I noe someone is waiting for the lot! So when I'm on the receiving end, I tend to u/stand those who are slow to leave or to park!
Not sure how many of u feel the same.
Also, when u say they take own sweet time....I hope u dun mean 1-2 mins? Maybe those waiting are simply impatient!? -
99.99% pple drive forward... 0.01% of time do reserve... so going forward practised too much liao, but reserve no practise leh...tat's why slowerOriginally posted by ShutterBug:One more thing; how long do you normally take to reverse-park your car into a lot in a basement carpark or multi-storey carpark?
> 1 minute?
> 2 minutes?
> 4 minutes?
> 5 minutes and more?
This is also what I notice in all type of carparks; people take unusually long to park. When I look at them, I note that they are moving very slowly, very cautious and almost looks like they just pass!
But funny, I followed one car that was driving very fast and confidently on the road into a carpark, only to be held up behind him as he took his own sweet mother's time to slowly reverse crawl into a lot! WALAN!!!
At first I thought it was because sometimes people like to make me wait because of my Jag S-Type. But no... when I drive a van it is also the same!!!
Generally, I can quite confidently say that people in our society at large, are SELFISH.
Period. -
Live and let live lah. It's the same in other countries. If the person takes his/her sweet time to move out of the lot. HORN.
If the person parks slowly, HORN.
If people hog coffee tables or foodcourt tables, ASK politely.
Can't expect everything to fall in place right. -
I suppose this is why our gov has to tell us all how to behave, or DO and DO NOT DO certain things, instruct us how to live our lives and not burden them in old age...Originally posted by Rock^Star:Live and let live lah. It's the same in other countries. If the person takes his/her sweet time to move out of the lot. HORN.
If the person parks slowly, HORN.
If people hog coffee tables or foodcourt tables, ASK politely.
Can't expect everything to fall in place right.
Is this what we are going to let society become? Like sheeps (all black ones as it seems..) to herded around, year in year out?
How are we a First World people, when people needs to be told about simple manners and common courtesy? Remember we are now GLOBALIZED, a lot of foreigners are living and working with us, and among us, - and quite commonly a lot of us criticize our PRC counterparts for being rude, loud and inconsiderate, and yet many exhibit the very traits we frown upon! If this isn't irony, then Elvis Presley is still alive...
In every whole week of driving to and from work, I will experience only ONE day that someone gave way, or stopped for me, or have signalled their intentions on time, respectted my right of way in a yellow box, or just simply moved off so that I may park.
Why should we be apathetic about everything in Singapore from politics to societal ills?? -
and the worst thing is i always hear people saying that singaporeans have no identity.
we have!!! lanjiao lang cheek tua two.
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HAHARRRHAARHHAHAHAAAAAAARRR!Originally posted by dragg:and the worst thing is i always hear people saying that singaporeans have no identity.
we have!!! lanjiao lang cheek tua two. 
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Trust me, I know what u mean. Singaporeans as a whole, are not gracious enough.Originally posted by ShutterBug:I suppose this is why our gov has to tell us all how to behave, or DO and DO NOT DO certain things, instruct us how to live our lives and not burden them in old age...
Is this what we are going to let society become? Like sheeps (all black ones as it seems..) to herded around, year in year out?
How are we a First World people, when people needs to be told about simple manners and common courtesy? Remember we are now GLOBALIZED, a lot of foreigners are living and working with us, and among us, - and quite commonly a lot of us criticize our PRC counterparts for being rude, loud and inconsiderate, and yet many exhibit the very traits we frown upon! If this isn't irony, then Elvis Presley is still alive...
In every whole week of driving to and from work, I will experience only ONE day that someone gave way, or stopped for me, or have signalled their intentions on time, respectted my right of way in a yellow box, or just simply moved off so that I may park.
Why should we be apathetic about everything in Singapore from politics to societal ills??
We can't choose our parents but we can choose to stay seperately from them. Likewise, we can't choose our nationality at birth but we can choose to migrate. I suggest that, since u have so many complaints, choose the latter.