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  • SpecOps87's Avatar
    2,773 posts since Apr '04
    • Hello, anybody wish to share bad/unprofessional practices of private driving instructors?

      I'll start the ball rolling: dozes off while teaching, can't give clear instructions and ends up scolding, insists that whats in the Final Theory Book is wrong/redundant.

  • ^spidee^'s Avatar
    8,584 posts since Oct '04
    • Doze off when sleeping is damn funny.. Laughing

      My friend said his instructor reads the paper while my friend's driving, then bring him to watch chinese opera. Laughing

  • SpecOps87's Avatar
    2,773 posts since Apr '04
    • Originally posted by ^spidee^:
      Doze off when sleeping is damn funny.. Laughing

      My friend said his instructor reads the paper while my friend's driving, then bring him to watch chinese opera. Laughing

      Bring him watch Chinese Opera?

  • ^spidee^'s Avatar
    8,584 posts since Oct '04
    • Originally posted by SpecOps87:
      Bring him watch Chinese Opera?

      Yea, those outdoor neighbourhood chinese operas.. Laughing

  • Ponders's Avatar
    4,594 posts since Oct '99
    • I feel the worse ones are those who does not inculcate a sense of road safety and a sense of road consideration.

      They are the ones who teach you not to give way and be selfish.

      Or they teach you not to make you drive safely but rather teach you beacuse he/she only wants you to pass.

      And they usually go, "just learn this for the exam, after that can forget about it and drive anyhow."

  • SpecOps87's Avatar
    2,773 posts since Apr '04
    • Originally posted by Ponders:
      I feel the worse ones are those who does not inculcate a sense of road safety and a sense of road consideration.

      They are the ones who teach you not to give way and be selfish.

      Or they teach you not to make you drive safely but rather teach you beacuse he/she only wants you to pass.

      And they usually go, "just learn this for the exam, after that can forget about it and drive anyhow."

      Yah,mine is like...you do everything by the book, after you get the license, you want how also can.Is there nobody governing these private instructors?I mean frankly I'm a slow learner,then he was like quite tu lan, den wanted to smack me. I stopped the car got out, and opened his door and ask him for what he want. First time he saw me lidday, because most lesson, he scold I just "orh...Orh...Orh.."He like stunned lah.Blardy cock...

  • hisoka's Avatar
    33,016 posts since Mar '05
    • Originally posted by Ponders:
      I feel the worse ones are those who does not inculcate a sense of road safety and a sense of road consideration.

      They are the ones who teach you not to give way and be selfish.

      Or they teach you not to make you drive safely but rather teach you beacuse he/she only wants you to pass.

      And they usually go, "just learn this for the exam, after that can forget about it and drive anyhow."

      it really depends on what you hired them for doesn't it?

      Some people hire the instructors to show them how to drive, some to teach them how to drive well and some just to help them pass.

      If you hired them jsut to help you pass the test then its not wrong to have that attitude and method

  • tt3's Avatar
    1,430 posts since Jan '06
  • Ponders's Avatar
    4,594 posts since Oct '99
    • Originally posted by hisoka:
      it really depends on what you hired them for doesn't it?

      Some people hire the instructors to show them how to drive, some to teach them how to drive well and some just to help them pass.

      If you hired them jsut to help you pass the test then its not wrong to have that attitude and method

      Well.. i know some students only bothered to pass for the sake of getting license as a license to show off.

      But some truly innocent students sway sway get such instructors also.

  • hisoka's Avatar
    33,016 posts since Mar '05
    • Originally posted by Ponders:
      Well.. i know some students only bothered to pass for the sake of getting license as a license to show off.

      But some truly innocent students sway sway get such instructors also.

      yeah but then the problem is whats the job of the instructor. while it might eb good to impart the values and behaviour, the main job of the instructor is actually to help the student pass the test( afterall have you seen pple hire driving instructors otehr than test? lets ignore refamilirazation with the car because its a rather small minority).

      + i would say that the drivers are adults they can make their own decisions, do you really think its going to stop an inconsiderate driver from not giving way if the instructor last time said he should??

  • Gackt247's Avatar
    19,300 posts since Jun '04
    • My instructor everytime wear sunglasses to sleep leh.. common la.. go straight road sure sleep.. it's the narrow roads n turns tt he'll wake up n take control.. the turns are the things tt u'll learn.. go big straight roads is juz excuse for him to sleep.. Laughing

  • ah-soh's Avatar
    389 posts since Jun '04
    • Not all school driving instructors are good.

      For once I booked a last minute lesson with an instructor that was not under my fixed group and he damn attitude. when I did just a little mistake he would show attitude to me. What a nightmare 100 minutes you can imagine.

      Edited by ah-soh 26 Oct `06, 10:58AM
  • Ponders's Avatar
    4,594 posts since Oct '99
    • Originally posted by hisoka:
      yeah but then the problem is whats the job of the instructor. while it might eb good to impart the values and behaviour, the main job of the instructor is actually to help the student pass the test( afterall have you seen pple hire driving instructors otehr than test? lets ignore refamilirazation with the car because its a rather small minority).

      + i would say that the drivers are adults they can make their own decisions, do you really think its going to stop an inconsiderate driver from not giving way if the instructor last time said he should??

      THis is where i disagree with you. I feel instructor has a greater onus than passing someone just to be licensed on the road. He should understand that letting someone into the roads without values will lead to that new driver developing their own sets of behaviour on the road.

      Because a previously non-driver is unfamiliar with road behaviour, this is where an instructor MUST guide one to drive safely AND more importantly the rational behind keeping the road safe.

      To teach on the skills of driving without knowledge of what safe driving means I feel is irresponsible of the instructor.

      I learnt my driving overseas under a very structured school. Before i can touch the vehicle, i had to go thru 2 months in-class theories on road safety. When it's practical time, the instructor would first drive me around and show the standard she wants me to meet.

      She enforced it thru out the period of the instruction. After the course, I was questioned by their internal auditors to check if she actually followed the syllabus 100%, only then i was allowed to proceed and take my driving exam.

      This is the kind of enforcement and inculcation i feel singapore instructor is very much lacking.

  • ETboy's Avatar
    3,022 posts since Jul '02
    • last time my instructor doze off in the circuit while waiting to do the parking. use hp (of coz when i was driving not him) . wear a sunglass and his eyes are close even tho he look like he’s looking out on the road. heavy traffic on the road and teach me to just signal and turn no need to wait and say no 1 will wait for you LOL

  • hopy's Avatar
    7,514 posts since Feb '01
    • mine doze off, eat lunch, talk on hp while mi drive too..

      ok lah, shows tt he or she trust u mah, so can relax abit mah keke

  • jamz's Avatar
    221 posts since Aug '02
  • hopy's Avatar
    7,514 posts since Feb '01
    • Originally posted by jamz:
      got such bochup TP testers anot?

      if got then ho seh liao la

      u will be surprised, they appear bo chup, but when hv danger they can suddenely wake up one u know Very Happy

  • BlUe G@rF|eLd's Avatar
    1,844 posts since Aug '05
    • I hate it when my instructor starts to nag at me… KNN…. Irritate me… plus he likes to suka suka step my brake and turn my steering wheel…

  • hopy's Avatar
    7,514 posts since Feb '01
    • Originally posted by BlUe G@rF|eLd:
      I hate it when my instructor starts to nag at me... KNN.... Irritate me... plus he likes to suka suka step my brake and turn my steering wheel...

      mi instructor too Very Happy

  • hisoka's Avatar
    33,016 posts since Mar '05
    • Originally posted by Ponders:
      THis is where i disagree with you. I feel instructor has a greater onus than passing someone just to be licensed on the road. He should understand that letting someone into the roads without values will lead to that new driver developing their own sets of behaviour on the road.

      Because a previously non-driver is unfamiliar with road behaviour, this is where an instructor MUST guide one to drive safely AND more importantly the rational behind keeping the road safe.

      To teach on the skills of driving without knowledge of what safe driving means I feel is irresponsible of the instructor.

      I learnt my driving overseas under a very structured school. Before i can touch the vehicle, i had to go thru 2 months in-class theories on road safety. When it's practical time, the instructor would first drive me around and show the standard she wants me to meet.

      She enforced it thru out the period of the instruction. After the course, I was questioned by their internal auditors to check if she actually followed the syllabus 100%, only then i was allowed to proceed and take my driving exam.

      This is the kind of enforcement and inculcation i feel singapore instructor is very much lacking.

      hmmz okz let me rephrase that, i meant that the instructors are hired to help pple pass the test, therefore it is their job. students do not hire the instructors to pass such knowledge; okz at least most don't.

      It would be nice and good if the knowledge was passed on, but then that would require the students actually wanting it.

      hmmz i would say 2 months in class theories is too long, its a waste of time most of the stuff you can either pick up on the road or be given in prob less time like in 1 or 2 sessions. but then thats a system problem i guess

  • buses_galore's Avatar
    1,208 posts since Jun '06
  • magioluca's Avatar
    50 posts since Dec '04
    • My instructor dozes off many times while i drive. I guessed I kinda regret taking it during my university days. Wasn't really mature and just take it in whatever attitude my driving instructor have. His haphazard teaching also makes me really confused at times.

  • sgboy2004's Avatar
    43,907 posts since Dec '02
    • Originally posted by hopy:
      mi instructor too Very Happy

      no wonder u failed miserably for the 5th time Laughing

  • 105090's Avatar
    5,412 posts since Feb '05
    • school instructors some also tell u to do what u want after pass, but when learning, its law-by-law Smile

      after all, its very true that u are there to pass.. all those bad habits are actually gained through the driver itself or other road user..

  • Ponders's Avatar
    4,594 posts since Oct '99
    • Originally posted by hisoka:
      hmmz okz let me rephrase that, i meant that the instructors are hired to help pple pass the test, therefore it is their job. students do not hire the instructors to pass such knowledge; okz at least most don't.

      It would be nice and good if the knowledge was passed on, but then that would require the students actually wanting it.

      hmmz i would say 2 months in class theories is too long, its a waste of time most of the stuff you can either pick up on the road or be given in prob less time like in 1 or 2 sessions. but then thats a system problem i guess

      Well. now that you rephrase it it sounds much better.

      Well the 2 months theory is not merely on driving, it covers many things that you do not normally encounter on roads but will happen... give you few examples, these are usually things that are dangerous to simulate, but regardless they let you practice a few times after... if conditions allow.

      a) hydroplaning/aquaplaning
      b) lost of traction due to gravel/water
      c) winter driving (i was in Canada so this is necessary)
      d) ABS braking and non-ABS braking
      e) differences of front wheel/rear wheel/All wheel
      f) Laws and rights applying to drivers during accidents
      g) Tire thread patterns
      h) physiology of driving
      i) reaction to situations (suddenly wheel drop off/puncture, engine dies while driving 110km/h, etc)

      And through out the course they emphasise on safety and our mentality towards safety. So when we drive we will want to drive safe...

      well, i feel that i am a cautious and safe driver now..... my endorsement... my dad can sleep in the car when i am driving Laughing

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